London Hotels w/internet access

On Thu, 6 May 2004 14:25:10 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband Matthew
Haigh <$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> strung together this:

>Depending upon how often you are likely to travel and your use of the
>internet, you might find it far more cost effective to get either an
>Orange mobile office card (£25/month for 100MB) or a Voda 3G card if you
>transfer more. From what I've seen, one night's ethernet in a reasonable
>hotel seems to be around £25, so if your actual data quantities aren't
>too heavy then using a mobile card is a cheaper as long as you use it
>more than once a month.
>
Or, enable the GPRS on your mobile and connect through that, like what
I do.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

On Thu, 6 May 2004 11:03:54 +0100, Matthew Haigh
<$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, bof
><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Ron Reid
>><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>
>>>Most reasonable standard hotels now have modem access points in their
>>>room, although you will need a laptop of course. A growing number have
>>>ethernet connections.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>I tend to steer clear of these for email download to avoid account and
>>password details running across the hotel n/w. Do others here worry
>>about this? or don't consider it's a problem?
>
>If using any sort of open system (public ethernet, WiFi), I either use
>VPN into my network or SSH tunnels (less overhead if paying per byte for
>transfers). Either way the entire session is then encrypted, making it
>far more difficult to eavesdrop.
>
>Obviously this is not an option if you don't have VPN access to your
>office or home, or access to a "friendly" server to use as the
>destination of your SSH tunnel (i.e. where you pop out unencrypted on
>the internet).
>
>Matt


'spose depends how paranoid you are! I probably wouldn't do anything
with my credit card over a hotel network unless logged into a secure
server (but then I normally wouldn't do anything with my credit card
over any network unless ....)

Web access to our work email server requires 128-bit encryption, so
sometimes does not work from Business Centre pc's and VPN into the
office is reasonably secure, but then little we do is commercially
sensitive or top secret!

Ron

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Matthew Haigh
<$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> writes
>In article <qDnWqlG6DimAFwO$@invalid.domain>, bof
><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>In message <q7+(E-Mail Removed)>, Matthew Haigh
>><$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> writes
>>>If using any sort of open system (public ethernet, WiFi), I either
>>>use VPN into my network or SSH tunnels (less overhead if paying per
>>>byte for transfers). Either way the entire session is then encrypted,
>>>making it far more difficult to eavesdrop.
>
>>I can VPN into my homeoffice network, but if I then start a POP
>>session to the server at my ISP how can I ensure POP traffic is only
>>routed via the VPN, and doesn't appear directly on Ethernet link? (Any
>>advice for Win ME or XP welcome)
>>
>>
>Windows should just handle this for you (updating your routing when you
>bring up the VPN). You can check by making sure that you have no other
>network traffic running, then collect your mail. Both of the network
>status indicators in the tray will flash simultaneously, showing that
>the traffic is going over the VPN on top of the ethernet connection.

Thanks, yes Win ME does change the routing when the VPN is up, with the
minor caveat that the mail collection defaults back to the direct
connection if the VPN drops.

>
>Depending upon how often you are likely to travel and your use of the
>internet, you might find it far more cost effective to get either an
>Orange mobile office card (£25/month for 100MB) or a Voda 3G card if
>you transfer more. From what I've seen, one night's ethernet in a
>reasonable hotel seems to be around £25, so if your actual data
>quantities aren't too heavy then using a mobile card is a cheaper as
>long as you use it more than once a month.

I'll look into it, mainly I travel abroad, where mobile charges tend to
become akin to extortion.

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In message <409a46a5.140140130@195.129.110.67>, Lurch
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>On Thu, 6 May 2004 14:25:10 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband Matthew
>Haigh <$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> strung together this:
>
>>Depending upon how often you are likely to travel and your use of the
>>internet, you might find it far more cost effective to get either an
>>Orange mobile office card (£25/month for 100MB) or a Voda 3G card if you
>>transfer more. From what I've seen, one night's ethernet in a reasonable
>>hotel seems to be around £25, so if your actual data quantities aren't
>>too heavy then using a mobile card is a cheaper as long as you use it
>>more than once a month.
>>
>Or, enable the GPRS on your mobile and connect through that, like what
>I do.

I'll take a look into this, not sure what the costs will be like abroad.

--
bof at bof dot me dot uk

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, bof
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>In message <409a46a5.140140130@195.129.110.67>, Lurch
><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>On Thu, 6 May 2004 14:25:10 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband Matthew
>>Haigh <$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> strung together this:
>>
>>>Depending upon how often you are likely to travel and your use of the
>>>internet, you might find it far more cost effective to get either an
>>>Orange mobile office card (£25/month for 100MB) or a Voda 3G card if you
>>>transfer more. From what I've seen, one night's ethernet in a reasonable
>>>hotel seems to be around £25, so if your actual data quantities aren't
>>>too heavy then using a mobile card is a cheaper as long as you use it
>>>more than once a month.
>>>
>>Or, enable the GPRS on your mobile and connect through that, like what
>>I do.
>
>I'll take a look into this, not sure what the costs will be like abroad.
>

If you need to ask the cost, you can't afford to use GPRS overseas:-)

Typically you'll be looking at £7.50 to £10 per megabyte. Vodafone have
a short term deal on using their 3G card where if you are on at least
their £53 per month tariff, you'll "only" pay £3.50 per MB (ex VAT) for
roaming data - assuming you are using another Vodafone network abroad.

Of course (!) roaming data doesn't come out of whatever bundle you have
in the UK, so you pay for every byte of it.

Matt

--
Matthew Haigh --$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org--
GCRSoft, providing SMS solutions since 1996...
http://www.gcrsoft.com http://www.moretext.com

In message <rOhZYSO1EnmAFw+(E-Mail Removed)>, Matthew Haigh
<$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> writes
>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, bof
><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>In message <409a46a5.140140130@195.129.110.67>, Lurch
>><(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>>On Thu, 6 May 2004 14:25:10 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband Matthew
>>>Haigh <$matthaigh{News06}$@haigh.org> strung together this:
>>>
>>>>Depending upon how often you are likely to travel and your use of the
>>>>internet, you might find it far more cost effective to get either an
>>>>Orange mobile office card (£25/month for 100MB) or a Voda 3G card if you
>>>>transfer more. From what I've seen, one night's ethernet in a reasonable
>>>>hotel seems to be around £25, so if your actual data quantities aren't
>>>>too heavy then using a mobile card is a cheaper as long as you use it
>>>>more than once a month.
>>>>
>>>Or, enable the GPRS on your mobile and connect through that, like what
>>>I do.
>>
>>I'll take a look into this, not sure what the costs will be like abroad.
>>
>
>If you need to ask the cost, you can't afford to use GPRS overseas:-)
>
>Typically you'll be looking at £7.50 to £10 per megabyte.

Hmm, that works out at 30 to 40 quid to download a day's spam, I'll most
likely not bother.

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bof at bof dot me dot uk

"mike" <miketaro@no_spam__hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c7b1i8$p37$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can anyone recommend some nice central london hotels that have internet
> access in rooms? Searching for hotels on the net isn't much fun I'm
finding
> out :/
>
> I wanna be as close to Tottenham Court Rd as possible.
>
> cheers
>
>

The Raddisson Edwardian Grafton hotel on Tottenham Court Rd has ISDN
(Digital Line) in each room I think, but it costs - alot