loging onto NT 4.0

I have a NT 4.0 service pack 6a server running DHCP
server. All my windows 9X computer receive a IP address
however when longing onto the server they receive the
error that their password is incorrect or access to the
domain server is denied. I have windows 2000 and XP
longing on with no errors. The server's event long shows
that the DHCP is giving a NACK to every computer. I have
disable DHCP on the server and given static IP's to the
computer but they still get the same error. Thanks in
advance for the help!

Lots of possibilities here.

First, are the Win9x computers getting a valid IP address from the DHCP
server, or are they getting a private range (192.168.xxx.xxx) address?

Second, are the Win9x computers getting an IP address in the same range as
the 2000 and XP computers?

Third, can the 9x systems ping the DHCP server and the PDC by name and by IP
address?

Finally do they all have something in common other than all being 9x
clients? Are they perhaps all on the same switch or router? Can you swap a
9x box and a 2K/XP box to see if the 9x box works in a different location?

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"Stevam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:013301c3b831$e8e7a7b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a NT 4.0 service pack 6a server running DHCP
> server. All my windows 9X computer receive a IP address
> however when longing onto the server they receive the
> error that their password is incorrect or access to the
> domain server is denied. I have windows 2000 and XP
> longing on with no errors. The server's event long shows
> that the DHCP is giving a NACK to every computer. I have
> disable DHCP on the server and given static IP's to the
> computer but they still get the same error. Thanks in
> advance for the help!

ok, Yes they are getting a private range 168.254.xxx.xxx
they are in the same as the 2k and Xp boxes. yes they can
ping the server and the server can ping them. and they
are in 3 office on there own going strate to the server
room all in the same hub/switch. i did move an xp box to
where the 9x box was and it worked fine. i even put in
new network cards. this one has be stumped!
>-----Original Message-----
>Lots of possibilities here.
>
>First, are the Win9x computers getting a valid IP
address from the DHCP
>server, or are they getting a private range
(192.168.xxx.xxx) address?
>
>Second, are the Win9x computers getting an IP address in
the same range as
>the 2000 and XP computers?
>
>Third, can the 9x systems ping the DHCP server and the
PDC by name and by IP
>address?
>
>Finally do they all have something in common other than
all being 9x
>clients? Are they perhaps all on the same switch or
router? Can you swap a
>9x box and a 2K/XP box to see if the 9x box works in a
different location?
>
>--
>Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
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>* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
to.
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>
>
>"Stevam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:013301c3b831$e8e7a7b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have a NT 4.0 service pack 6a server running DHCP
>> server. All my windows 9X computer receive a IP address
>> however when longing onto the server they receive the
>> error that their password is incorrect or access to the
>> domain server is denied. I have windows 2000 and XP
>> longing on with no errors. The server's event long
shows
>> that the DHCP is giving a NACK to every computer. I
have
>> disable DHCP on the server and given static IP's to the
>> computer but they still get the same error. Thanks in
>> advance for the help!
>
>
>.
>

Whoa.

You have your entire network in the 168.254.xxx.xxx range? Did you set it
up that way on purpose? That may have been an unwise choice since those are
not valid private IP addresses.

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"Steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:04c301c3b86b$45e4f470$(E-Mail Removed)...
> ok, Yes they are getting a private range 168.254.xxx.xxx
> they are in the same as the 2k and Xp boxes. yes they can
> ping the server and the server can ping them. and they
> are in 3 office on there own going strate to the server
> room all in the same hub/switch. i did move an xp box to
> where the 9x box was and it worked fine. i even put in
> new network cards. this one has be stumped!
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Lots of possibilities here.
> >
> >First, are the Win9x computers getting a valid IP
> address from the DHCP
> >server, or are they getting a private range
> (192.168.xxx.xxx) address?
> >
> >Second, are the Win9x computers getting an IP address in
> the same range as
> >the 2000 and XP computers?
> >
> >Third, can the 9x systems ping the DHCP server and the
> PDC by name and by IP
> >address?
> >
> >Finally do they all have something in common other than
> all being 9x
> >clients? Are they perhaps all on the same switch or
> router? Can you swap a
> >9x box and a 2K/XP box to see if the 9x box works in a
> different location?
> >
> >--
> >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
> >* Please post all messages and replies in the newsgroup
> so that
> >* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
> to.
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> >
> >
> >"Stevam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:013301c3b831$e8e7a7b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I have a NT 4.0 service pack 6a server running DHCP
> >> server. All my windows 9X computer receive a IP address
> >> however when longing onto the server they receive the
> >> error that their password is incorrect or access to the
> >> domain server is denied. I have windows 2000 and XP
> >> longing on with no errors. The server's event long
> shows
> >> that the DHCP is giving a NACK to every computer. I
> have
> >> disable DHCP on the server and given static IP's to the
> >> computer but they still get the same error. Thanks in
> >> advance for the help!
> >
> >
> >.
> >

I didn't even notice that. Richard is correct. You will want to use
192.168.x.x or 10.0.0.x

Carey

"Richard G. Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Whoa.
>
> You have your entire network in the 168.254.xxx.xxx range? Did you set it
> up that way on purpose? That may have been an unwise choice since those
are
> not valid private IP addresses.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
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>
>
> "Steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:04c301c3b86b$45e4f470$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > ok, Yes they are getting a private range 168.254.xxx.xxx
> > they are in the same as the 2k and Xp boxes. yes they can
> > ping the server and the server can ping them. and they
> > are in 3 office on there own going strate to the server
> > room all in the same hub/switch. i did move an xp box to
> > where the 9x box was and it worked fine. i even put in
> > new network cards. this one has be stumped!
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Lots of possibilities here.
> > >
> > >First, are the Win9x computers getting a valid IP
> > address from the DHCP
> > >server, or are they getting a private range
> > (192.168.xxx.xxx) address?
> > >
> > >Second, are the Win9x computers getting an IP address in
> > the same range as
> > >the 2000 and XP computers?
> > >
> > >Third, can the 9x systems ping the DHCP server and the
> > PDC by name and by IP
> > >address?
> > >
> > >Finally do they all have something in common other than
> > all being 9x
> > >clients? Are they perhaps all on the same switch or
> > router? Can you swap a
> > >9x box and a 2K/XP box to see if the 9x box works in a
> > different location?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
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> > so that
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> > to.
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> > >
> > >
> > >"Stevam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >news:013301c3b831$e8e7a7b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> I have a NT 4.0 service pack 6a server running DHCP
> > >> server. All my windows 9X computer receive a IP address
> > >> however when longing onto the server they receive the
> > >> error that their password is incorrect or access to the
> > >> domain server is denied. I have windows 2000 and XP
> > >> longing on with no errors. The server's event long
> > shows
> > >> that the DHCP is giving a NACK to every computer. I
> > have
> > >> disable DHCP on the server and given static IP's to the
> > >> computer but they still get the same error. Thanks in
> > >> advance for the help!
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

Of COURSE he is. :-)

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"Carey Holzman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I didn't even notice that. Richard is correct. You will want to use
> 192.168.x.x or 10.0.0.x

well let me say this. i was not the one how set this
netowrk up so as far as the ip range gose that part
wasnot up to me. what i do know is that it has been
running just fine for 3 yrs and now my win9x boxes can't
get loged on to the server.
>-----Original Message-----
>Of COURSE he is. :-)
>
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>"Carey Holzman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I didn't even notice that. Richard is correct. You
will want to use
>> 192.168.x.x or 10.0.0.x
>
>
>.
>

Then something else must have changed recently, or maybe the Win98 boxes
have become infested with spyware? Are they Internet-connected and do users
browse the 'net with them?

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"steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> well let me say this. i was not the one how set this
> netowrk up so as far as the ip range gose that part
> wasnot up to me. what i do know is that it has been
> running just fine for 3 yrs and now my win9x boxes can't
> get loged on to the server.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Of COURSE he is. :-)
> >
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> >
> >"Carey Holzman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I didn't even notice that. Richard is correct. You
> will want to use
> >> 192.168.x.x or 10.0.0.x
> >
> >
> >.
> >