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My Italian brother who lives in Luxembourg has seen offered by the
Luxembourg state post office a system of setting up your home internal
network by piggy-backing on the house mains power supply.

About <euro>100 per machine and thus no additional wiring network and no
need to rely on dodgy wireless networks either.

Anyone any knowledge or experience of this technology and its drawbacks?

On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:31:25 +0100 and in article <BCC7C99D966835FB2A@
192.168.0.3>, Simon Gardner said...
: My Italian brother who lives in Luxembourg has seen offered by the
: Luxembourg state post office a system of setting up your home internal
: network by piggy-backing on the house mains power supply.
:
: About <euro>100 per machine and thus no additional wiring network and no
: need to rely on dodgy wireless networks either.
:
: Anyone any knowledge or experience of this technology and its drawbacks?
:
Yeah, ADSLguide did a review of a piece of kit that does exactly this.
It's quite a bit slower than 100mbit tho.
--
chris

"Simon Gardner" <666_@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote in message
news:BCC7C99D966835FB2A@192.168.0.3...
> My Italian brother who lives in Luxembourg has seen offered by the
> Luxembourg state post office a system of setting up your home internal
> network by piggy-backing on the house mains power supply.
>
> About <euro>100 per machine and thus no additional wiring network and no
> need to rely on dodgy wireless networks either.
>
> Anyone any knowledge or experience of this technology and its drawbacks?

Google for "HomePNA"

Regards
Sunil

"chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:31:25 +0100 and in article <BCC7C99D966835FB2A@
> 192.168.0.3>, Simon Gardner said...
> : My Italian brother who lives in Luxembourg has seen offered by the
> : Luxembourg state post office a system of setting up your home internal
> : network by piggy-backing on the house mains power supply.
> :
> : About <euro>100 per machine and thus no additional wiring network and no
> : need to rely on dodgy wireless networks either.
> :
> : Anyone any knowledge or experience of this technology and its drawbacks?
> :
> Yeah, ADSLguide did a review of a piece of kit that does exactly this.
> It's quite a bit slower than 100mbit tho.

Solwise sell some of the equipment. See
http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm for details

Paul

HomePNA AFAIK doesn't use the mains power supply - uses telephone
extension(s)
"Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Simon Gardner" <666_@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote in message
> news:BCC7C99D966835FB2A@192.168.0.3...
> > My Italian brother who lives in Luxembourg has seen offered by the
> > Luxembourg state post office a system of setting up your home internal
> > network by piggy-backing on the house mains power supply.
> >
> > About <euro>100 per machine and thus no additional wiring network and no
> > need to rely on dodgy wireless networks either.
> >
> > Anyone any knowledge or experience of this technology and its drawbacks?
>
> Google for "HomePNA"
>
> Regards
> Sunil
>
>

In article <hKooc.1446$(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Paul G" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Solwise sell some of the equipment. See
> http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm for details

Thanks. I'll pass it on to him.

So nobody has actually tried this technology, then?

"Simon Gardner" <666_@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote in message
news:BCC8E2CF96687811F8@192.168.0.3...
> In article <hKooc.1446$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Paul G" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Solwise sell some of the equipment. See
> > http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm for details
>
> Thanks. I'll pass it on to him.
>
> So nobody has actually tried this technology, then?
>
>

I tried the Solwise system for a client of mine and it unfortunately didn't
work in their situation.

The problem was the distance involved and the fact that the 2 ends were on
different consumer units. I spent ages moving the supply on one of the
sockets through the 3 different phases to make sure that they were both on
the same phase and it still didn't work. With both units plugged in via the
same consumer unit it worked fine though.

I ended up wiring CAT5 60 metres through concrete floors and an underground
car park...

Paul

<666_@hack.powernet> wrote:

> In article <hKooc.1446$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Paul G" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Solwise sell some of the equipment. See
> > http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm for details
>
> Thanks. I'll pass it on to him.
>
> So nobody has actually tried this technology, then?

Yes:

"Wired Wireless"
Wireless World Vol XLVI P98 January 1940


It didn't work properly then, either.



--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Change 'offline' to 'online' to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

On 13/5/04 6:47 pm, in article
1gdqme4.ch60ma1cwjkpcN%(E-Mail Removed), "Adrian Tuddenham"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> <666_@hack.powernet> wrote:
>
>> In article <hKooc.1446$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> "Paul G" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Solwise sell some of the equipment. See
>>> http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm for details
>>
>> Thanks. I'll pass it on to him.
>>
>> So nobody has actually tried this technology, then?
>
> Yes:
>
> "Wired Wireless"
> Wireless World Vol XLVI P98 January 1940
>
>
> It didn't work properly then, either.

!

It was popular-ish in the early nineties, from what I recall. Farallon made
something? It obviously never really set the world alight, did it?

Cheers,

Chris

Chris Ridd wrote:

> On 13/5/04 6:47 pm, in article
> 1gdqme4.ch60ma1cwjkpcN%(E-Mail Removed), "Adrian Tuddenham"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> <666_@hack.powernet> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So nobody has actually tried this technology, then?
>>
>> Yes:
>>
>> "Wired Wireless"
>> Wireless World Vol XLVI P98 January 1940
>>
>>
>> It didn't work properly then, either.
>
> It was popular-ish in the early nineties, from what I recall. Farallon
> made something? It obviously never really set the world alight, did it?
>
It will set the world alight next time you have a power surge with your NIC
plugged in...or at least enough of the world to be expensive and harmful!
--
Graham Lee
I am leeg, for we are many
"It shows `us vs. them,' and I'm on the `us' side." - J Danforth Quayle
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342