linksysdata.com gone

It's not enough for Linksys to kill the golden goose (WRT54G v1 - v4
with Linux) and replace it with an abortion (v5). Now, they removed
the only useful piece of information on their web pile:
http://www.linksysdata.com/ui/
This URL formely has simulations (emulations?) of all Linksys
products. I could tell what I was buying by looking at the available
options on the web based setup. I also used these pages to answer
many questions on Linksys configuration issues. Now, all I get is:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /ui/ on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to
use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Hopefully, this is only a temporary failure, or adminstrative screwup.
I guess I get to spend the evening writing nastygrams.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>It's not enough for Linksys to kill the golden goose (WRT54G v1 - v4
>with Linux) and replace it with an abortion (v5). Now, they removed
>the only useful piece of information on their web pile:
> http://www.linksysdata.com/ui/
>This URL formely has simulations (emulations?) of all Linksys
>products. I could tell what I was buying by looking at the available
>options on the web based setup. I also used these pages to answer
>many questions on Linksys configuration issues. Now, all I get is:
>
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access /ui/ on this server.
> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to
> use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>
>Hopefully, this is only a temporary failure, or adminstrative screwup.
>I guess I get to spend the evening writing nastygrams.
>

Might be an oops or a crashed Hard drive, drop them a note and see if they
respond. As to the version 5 of the WRT54G(S), keep in mind 99.99% of
consumers buying this stuff have no clue why the V5 isn't an 'improved'
version of the 1 -4. It's shiney new and sounds good, so it must be
better...
Seems like prices for version 3's on ebay are climbing (winning bids),
don't understand why some bright boy at Cisco hasn't noticed this.

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.

(E-Mail Removed) (Rico) hath wroth:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>It's not enough for Linksys to kill the golden goose (WRT54G v1 - v4
>>with Linux) and replace it with an abortion (v5). Now, they removed
>>the only useful piece of information on their web pile:
>> http://www.linksysdata.com/ui/
>>This URL formely has simulations (emulations?) of all Linksys
>>products. I could tell what I was buying by looking at the available
>>options on the web based setup. I also used these pages to answer
>>many questions on Linksys configuration issues. Now, all I get is:
>>
>> Forbidden
>> You don't have permission to access /ui/ on this server.
>> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to
>> use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>>
>>Hopefully, this is only a temporary failure, or adminstrative screwup.
>>I guess I get to spend the evening writing nastygrams.

>Might be an oops or a crashed Hard drive, drop them a note and see if they
>respond.

I forgot to send a nastygram. I just sent one to "support" and to
"linksyswebfeedback" (first step). I'll escalate after they return
the usual scripted answer.

Incidentally, the domain linksysdata.com expires on July 17, 2006.

>As to the version 5 of the WRT54G(S), keep in mind 99.99% of
>consumers buying this stuff have no clue why the V5 isn't an 'improved'
>version of the 1 -4. It's shiney new and sounds good, so it must be
>better...

Yeah, I know the logic. I've been told that the return rate on V5
routers is much higher than "acceptable". Sorry, no numbers. Cisco
has a "hands off" policy when dealing with Linksys, mostly because
it's a totally different business model. I'm sure they know about
articles like:
| http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/0..._lousy_router/ (7 pages)
but as long as the GUM (great unwashed masses) keep buying the V5
routers, they're not going to do anything. Fortunately, there are
plenty of other hackable routers:
| http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware

Incidentally, note that the Tom's Hardware reports shows that the V5
does better than the V4 for simultaneous upload and download
benchmarks. See Fig 9.
| http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/0...ter/page4.html
The v5 also bombed the Peer to Peer test:
| http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/0...ter/page5.html

However, there's hope with 3rd party firmware:
| http://www.bitsum.com/openwiking/owb...?WRT54G5%5FCFE
| http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php...rsion_5_WRT54G

>Seems like prices for version 3's on ebay are climbing (winning bids),
>don't understand why some bright boy at Cisco hasn't noticed this.

Yep. I've noticed. It's prima facia proof that the demand for Linux
versions are still there.

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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:01:40 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>(E-Mail Removed) (Rico) hath wroth:

>>Seems like prices for version 3's on ebay are climbing (winning bids),
>>don't understand why some bright boy at Cisco hasn't noticed this.
>
>Yep. I've noticed. It's prima facia proof that the demand for Linux
>versions are still there.

But probably not enough of a market to matter.

--
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Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote: in
>>(E-Mail Removed) (Rico) hath wroth:

>>>Seems like prices for version 3's on ebay are climbing (winning bids),
>>>don't understand why some bright boy at Cisco hasn't noticed this.

>>Yep. I've noticed. It's prima facia proof that the demand for Linux
>>versions are still there.

>But probably not enough of a market to matter.

But there must be enough market for the older versions, or they never
would have introduced the GL version. We owe it to them (and us) to
buy the GL whenever possible to remind them of the aftermarket.

John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>But probably not enough of a market to matter.

Yep. Looks like they're practically giving away Linksys wireless
routers:
http://en.fon.com/shop-us/product_in...products_id=28
WRT54GL for $5/ea.



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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:12:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>But probably not enough of a market to matter.
>
>Yep. Looks like they're practically giving away Linksys wireless
>routers:
> http://en.fon.com/shop-us/product_in...products_id=28
>WRT54GL for $5/ea.

Interesting, but inventory dumping by Fon would seem to have little to
do with the larger market.

--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> Yep. Looks like they're practically giving away Linksys wireless
> routers:
> http://en.fon.com/shop-us/product_in...products_id=28
> WRT54GL for $5/ea.

Notice that if someone takes them up on the offer they are on the hook
for letting them use their DSL gratis for 12 months.

Heck, I'll gladly sell my neighbors routers under the same
conditions. ;-)

-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/

Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>It's not enough for Linksys to kill the golden goose (WRT54G v1 - v4
>with Linux) and replace it with an abortion (v5). Now, they removed
>the only useful piece of information on their web pile:
> http://www.linksysdata.com/ui/
>This URL formely has simulations (emulations?) of all Linksys
>products. I could tell what I was buying by looking at the available
>options on the web based setup. I also used these pages to answer
>many questions on Linksys configuration issues. Now, all I get is:
>
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access /ui/ on this server.
> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to
> use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>
>Hopefully, this is only a temporary failure, or adminstrative screwup.
>I guess I get to spend the evening writing nastygrams.

Well, I just received a mostly boilerplate reply from
(E-Mail Removed). They claim that the site is accessible and
everything is working just fine. That might mean a firewall
configuration change, where the web site is now only accessible from
inside the Linksys network. Judging by the permissions error, this is
highly likely.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

> >It's not enough for Linksys to kill the golden goose (WRT54G v1 - v4
> >with Linux) and replace it with an abortion (v5). Now, they removed
> >the only useful piece of information on their web pile:
> > http://www.linksysdata.com/ui/
> >This URL formely has simulations (emulations?) of all Linksys
> >products. I could tell what I was buying by looking at the available
> >options on the web based setup. I also used these pages to answer
> >many questions on Linksys configuration issues. Now, all I get is:
> >
> > Forbidden
> > You don't have permission to access /ui/ on this server.
> > Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to
> > use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
> >
> >Hopefully, this is only a temporary failure, or adminstrative screwup.
> >I guess I get to spend the evening writing nastygrams.
>
> Well, I just received a mostly boilerplate reply from
> (E-Mail Removed). They claim that the site is accessible and
> everything is working just fine. That might mean a firewall
> configuration change, where the web site is now only accessible from
> inside the Linksys network. Judging by the permissions error, this is
> highly likely.

I'm seeing the same thing out here on the East coast. 403 permission error
on a 404 page.

The server configuration is apparently blocking access. Time to go slap the
webmaster around...