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George
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      12-04-2007, 02:40 PM
I have a Toshiba 'Satellite' laptop, running Win 2K. It had a 10/100
(wired) network PCMCIA card, which worked. My router is a D-link "Air
Plus G" 802.11g (2.4 Ghz). It's set for WPA-PSK, which works with other
PC's.

However, when I try to use a Linksys WPC11 (v3) wireless card in this
Toshiba, I get nothing but trouble. Short story: when installed from
the Linksys CD, the network is sometimes detected; but, I can't connect
to it. When I install the new (supposedly WPA-compatible) driver, I get
no network operation, and the laptop regularly locks up, so that I have
to use the reset button to recover.

In more detail, ...
- Old driver (from CD): 1.7.37.1098
- New (WPA?) driver : 3.0.4.205

The 'hangup problem' seems strongly associated with the Linksys
"configuration utility". That is, it almost always locks up when I try
to run the utility with the new driver. Not so, with the old driver.
It has sometimes locked up even when the utility is not running.

I've tried various installation schemes, including un-installing
everything first. I can provide more details, if that would help.

I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. If this is not worth pursuing, it
would be helpful to hear that.

TIA,
George
 
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      12-04-2007, 02:53 PM
George wrote:
> I have a Toshiba 'Satellite' laptop, running Win 2K. It had a 10/100
> (wired) network PCMCIA card, which worked. My router is a D-link "Air
> Plus G" 802.11g (2.4 Ghz). It's set for WPA-PSK, which works with other
> PC's.
>
> However, when I try to use a Linksys WPC11 (v3) wireless card in this
> Toshiba, I get nothing but trouble. Short story: when installed from
> the Linksys CD, the network is sometimes detected; but, I can't connect
> to it. When I install the new (supposedly WPA-compatible) driver, I get
> no network operation, and the laptop regularly locks up, so that I have
> to use the reset button to recover.
>
> In more detail, ...
> - Old driver (from CD): 1.7.37.1098
> - New (WPA?) driver : 3.0.4.205
>
> The 'hangup problem' seems strongly associated with the Linksys
> "configuration utility". That is, it almost always locks up when I try
> to run the utility with the new driver. Not so, with the old driver.
> It has sometimes locked up even when the utility is not running.
>
> I've tried various installation schemes, including un-installing
> everything first. I can provide more details, if that would help.
>
> I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. If this is not worth pursuing, it
> would be helpful to hear that.
>
> TIA,
> George

The WPA driver found here;
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...#versiondetail

has some very specific instructions for XP found by clicking on the
version info link. Have you tried them?
 
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      12-04-2007, 03:35 PM
George wrote:
> I have a Toshiba 'Satellite' laptop, running Win 2K. It had a 10/100
> (wired) network PCMCIA card, which worked. My router is a D-link "Air
> Plus G" 802.11g (2.4 Ghz). It's set for WPA-PSK, which works with other
> PC's.
>
> However, when I try to use a Linksys WPC11 (v3) wireless card in this
> Toshiba, I get nothing but trouble. Short story: when installed from
> the Linksys CD, the network is sometimes detected; but, I can't connect
> to it. When I install the new (supposedly WPA-compatible) driver, I get
> no network operation, and the laptop regularly locks up, so that I have
> to use the reset button to recover.
>
> In more detail, ...
> - Old driver (from CD): 1.7.37.1098
> - New (WPA?) driver : 3.0.4.205
>
> The 'hangup problem' seems strongly associated with the Linksys
> "configuration utility". That is, it almost always locks up when I try
> to run the utility with the new driver. Not so, with the old driver.
> It has sometimes locked up even when the utility is not running.
>
> I've tried various installation schemes, including un-installing
> everything first. I can provide more details, if that would help.
>
> I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. If this is not worth pursuing, it
> would be helpful to hear that.
>
> TIA,
> George

From the 3.04.205 firmware:-
Driver Version 3.0.4.205 (Windows XP and 2000 user only and No WHQL
Certificed)
- Supports Wi-Fi Protected Access (TM) (WPA) with additional
supplicants from Microsoft (WinXP only)
- Supports Wi-Fi Protected Access (TM) (WPA) with additional
supplicants from Funk Software (Win2000 only)
So unless you installed the supplicant from Funk as well it won't work.

McAfee used to have a "WPA Assistant" but it looks as if it is no longer
free but part of their security package.
http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/...PAAssistant.do

Your only other options seem to be :-
1. WPA Supplicant for windows http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
2.Get a new Wireless card that supports WPA in Win 2000.
 
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      12-04-2007, 06:58 PM
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:53:41 -0500, Pen <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>George wrote:
>> I have a Toshiba 'Satellite' laptop, running Win 2K. It had a 10/100
>> (wired) network PCMCIA card, which worked. My router is a D-link "Air
>> Plus G" 802.11g (2.4 Ghz). It's set for WPA-PSK, which works with other
>> PC's.
>>
>> However, when I try to use a Linksys WPC11 (v3) wireless card in this
>> Toshiba, I get nothing but trouble. Short story: when installed from
>> the Linksys CD, the network is sometimes detected; but, I can't connect
>> to it. When I install the new (supposedly WPA-compatible) driver, I get
>> no network operation, and the laptop regularly locks up, so that I have
>> to use the reset button to recover.
>>
>> In more detail, ...
>> - Old driver (from CD): 1.7.37.1098
>> - New (WPA?) driver : 3.0.4.205
>>
>> The 'hangup problem' seems strongly associated with the Linksys
>> "configuration utility". That is, it almost always locks up when I try
>> to run the utility with the new driver. Not so, with the old driver.
>> It has sometimes locked up even when the utility is not running.
>>
>> I've tried various installation schemes, including un-installing
>> everything first. I can provide more details, if that would help.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. If this is not worth pursuing, it
>> would be helpful to hear that.
>>
>> TIA,
>> George

>The WPA driver found here;
>http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...#versiondetail
>
>has some very specific instructions for XP found by clicking on the
>version info link. Have you tried them?


I think so. However, the only instruction I see there for 2000 is to
"uninstall the current WLAN Monitor", and I'm not certain what that
refers to. But, I've uninstalled everything I can find - namely, the
driver and 'configuration utility'. Whether the "WLAN Monitor" is the
same as the 'configuration utility', I am not certain.

WRT the XP instructions, the capability (ie, update (or delete) the
driver) describe in that URL is available in W2K from the network
connection's properties dialog. Which I used, in various magical
combinations with other actions.

So, I think I've done what they're talking about. And, per the network
connection's properties dialog, I do have the driver in question
(3.0.4.205). And it seems to lock up the system.

Thanks,
George
 
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      12-04-2007, 07:15 PM
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:35:17 +0000, LR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>George wrote:
>> I have a Toshiba 'Satellite' laptop, running Win 2K. It had a 10/100
>> (wired) network PCMCIA card, which worked. My router is a D-link "Air
>> Plus G" 802.11g (2.4 Ghz). It's set for WPA-PSK, which works with other
>> PC's.
>>
>> However, when I try to use a Linksys WPC11 (v3) wireless card in this
>> Toshiba, I get nothing but trouble. Short story: when installed from
>> the Linksys CD, the network is sometimes detected; but, I can't connect
>> to it. When I install the new (supposedly WPA-compatible) driver, I get
>> no network operation, and the laptop regularly locks up, so that I have
>> to use the reset button to recover.
>>
>> In more detail, ...
>> - Old driver (from CD): 1.7.37.1098
>> - New (WPA?) driver : 3.0.4.205
>>
>> The 'hangup problem' seems strongly associated with the Linksys
>> "configuration utility". That is, it almost always locks up when I try
>> to run the utility with the new driver. Not so, with the old driver.
>> It has sometimes locked up even when the utility is not running.
>>
>> I've tried various installation schemes, including un-installing
>> everything first. I can provide more details, if that would help.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. If this is not worth pursuing, it
>> would be helpful to hear that.
>>
>> TIA,
>> George

> From the 3.04.205 firmware:-
> Driver Version 3.0.4.205 (Windows XP and 2000 user only and No WHQL
>Certificed)
> - Supports Wi-Fi Protected Access (TM) (WPA) with additional
>supplicants from Microsoft (WinXP only)
> - Supports Wi-Fi Protected Access (TM) (WPA) with additional
>supplicants from Funk Software (Win2000 only)
>So unless you installed the supplicant from Funk as well it won't work.


Oh - I was reading that as saying the Funk supplicant was included.
(Until this week, I thought a supplicant was someone who prayed all the
time. Live and learn.) So, W2K needs a supplicant. That enlightening.

> ...
>
>Your only other options seem to be :-
>1. WPA Supplicant for windows http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/


Do you know if the Linksys WPC11 fall under one of the listed "supported
wireless cards"?

>2.Get a new Wireless card that supports WPA in Win 2000.


Alas.

Thanks much,
George
 
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      12-04-2007, 08:14 PM
George wrote:

>> Your only other options seem to be :-
>> 1. WPA Supplicant for windows http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/

>
> Do you know if the Linksys WPC11 fall under one of the listed "supported
> wireless cards"?


I believe that it has one of the prism chipsets, possibly Prism3, so it
is probably worth trying.
>
>> 2.Get a new Wireless card that supports WPA in Win 2000.

>
> Alas.
>
> Thanks much,
> George

 
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      12-05-2007, 10:55 AM
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:35:17 +0000, LR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> ...
>Your only other options seem to be :-
>1. WPA Supplicant for windows http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/


I can do that, I think. But, ... would that fix the lockup I get, when
I run 3.0.4.205?

Thanks,
George
 
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      12-05-2007, 11:20 AM
George wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:35:17 +0000, LR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Your only other options seem to be :-
>> 1. WPA Supplicant for windows http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/

>
> I can do that, I think. But, ... would that fix the lockup I get, when
> I run 3.0.4.205?
>
> Thanks,
> George

You wouldn't need to run the Linksys s'ware.
 
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      12-05-2007, 11:45 AM
On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:20:32 +0000, LR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>George wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:35:17 +0000, LR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> Your only other options seem to be :-
>>> 1. WPA Supplicant for windows http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/

>>
>> I can do that, I think. But, ... would that fix the lockup I get, when
>> I run 3.0.4.205?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> George

>You wouldn't need to run the Linksys s'ware.


That sounds appealing, but I must have missed something. What driver
would I be using?

Thanks,
G
 
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      12-05-2007, 12:56 PM
George wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:20:32 +0000, LR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> George wrote:
>>> On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:35:17 +0000, LR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> Your only other options seem to be :-
>>>> 1. WPA Supplicant for windows http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
>>> I can do that, I think. But, ... would that fix the lockup I get, when
>>> I run 3.0.4.205?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> George

>> You wouldn't need to run the Linksys s'ware.

>
> That sounds appealing, but I must have missed something. What driver
> would I be using?
>
> Thanks,
> G

The Prism driver.
 
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