Linksys Wireless G Game Adapter issue

Guys,

I own a Linksys Wireless G Router and a Linksys Wireless G Game
Adapter to use with my XBOX (modified so that I can run XBOX Media
Center).

Everything is up and running and works great. I can FTP to the XBOX
and transfer files in and out, Internet apps work great on the XBOX
side too.

However, the one thing I cannot get working is that I cannot directly
connect to the Adapter with a browser from the PC upstairs. I don't
get it. Everything down there is setup as default so it's at
192.168.1.250. The SSID's match. But if I go to that IP I get Page Not
Found after a long delay.

On the PC side I'm setup static with my PC at a static IP and the
default gateway set to 192.168.1.1.

Anyone have any idea why I cannot bring up the setup screen for the
adapter from the PC??? No trouble doing it when I connect it directly
to the router. I can't ping it either.

Rich Heimlich <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Guys,
>
> I own a Linksys Wireless G Router and a Linksys Wireless G Game
> Adapter to use with my XBOX (modified so that I can run XBOX Media
> Center).
>
> Everything is up and running and works great. I can FTP to the XBOX
> and transfer files in and out, Internet apps work great on the XBOX
> side too.
>
> However, the one thing I cannot get working is that I cannot directly
> connect to the Adapter with a browser from the PC upstairs. I don't
> get it. Everything down there is setup as default so it's at
> 192.168.1.250. The SSID's match. But if I go to that IP I get Page Not
> Found after a long delay.
>
> On the PC side I'm setup static with my PC at a static IP and the
> default gateway set to 192.168.1.1.
>
> Anyone have any idea why I cannot bring up the setup screen for the
> adapter from the PC??? No trouble doing it when I connect it directly
> to the router. I can't ping it either.
>

Just a guess, and that is that the web config only works from the ethernet
interface. Any attempt to connect to it from the other direction,
wireless, would be disabled, because it would be considered less secure.

There may be a way to change this however. For example, I have their
BEFSR41 cable/dsl router. By default, it only lets you get to the web
config if you are connected to a LAN port. You can't do it if you are
coming in over the WAN port. But there are options in the config to enable
remote config with a password. There may be a similar setting for your
wireless game adapter.

I'm considering buying the Wireless G game adapter myself, because it
should work to connect any PC that already has an ethernet card. This
would save me trouble installing various PCI cards in old PCs or other
devices. Most everything already has an ethernet port in it these days.
The other option is USB, but things like the Xbox or old PCs don't have USB
or don't network via USB too well.

Is the performance decent so far? I'm curious if there is any real
performance differrence using an 11g game adapter vs 11g pci card.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:10:45 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless you wrote:

>Just a guess, and that is that the web config only works from the ethernet
>interface. Any attempt to connect to it from the other direction,
>wireless, would be disabled, because it would be considered less secure.

Not according to their documention and support rep. The manual
specifically has a section outlining accessing it wirelessly from a
browser and what differences to expect over accessing it via Ethernet.

I have one other issue that's annoying me. I've been transfering a lot
of larger song files to my XBOX and every so often the connection
breaks down and I have to power cycle the access point to get it going
again.

>I'm considering buying the Wireless G game adapter myself, because it
>should work to connect any PC that already has an ethernet card. This

I used it that way myself before hooking it to the XBOX.

>Is the performance decent so far? I'm curious if there is any real
>performance differrence using an 11g game adapter vs 11g pci card.

Performance seems to be fine. Transfers are about 1,300KBps which is
about all you're going to get out of Wireless G.

Rich Heimlich <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:10:45 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless you wrote:
>
>>Just a guess, and that is that the web config only works from the
>>ethernet interface. Any attempt to connect to it from the other
>>direction, wireless, would be disabled, because it would be considered
>>less secure.
>
> Not according to their documention and support rep. The manual
> specifically has a section outlining accessing it wirelessly from a
> browser and what differences to expect over accessing it via Ethernet.

Safe to assume you've already tried the latest firmware for the device?
And perhaps older firmware? I've had to back down to older firmware on my
BEFSR41 for example in order to get some things to work. That sucks.

>
> I have one other issue that's annoying me. I've been transfering a lot
> of larger song files to my XBOX and every so often the connection
> breaks down and I have to power cycle the access point to get it going
> again.

Thanks for sharing this info. I'll have to make sure to specifically test
some large transfers to see if this happens to me as well. I've been
assuming that since the Broadcom was the most common 11g consumer chipset
out there that most vendors would have issues like this worked out by now
but it seems maybe this isn't the case.

So are you considering returning it to get the Xbox wireless G adapter or
something else?


>>I'm considering buying the Wireless G game adapter myself, because it
>>should work to connect any PC that already has an ethernet card. This
>
> I used it that way myself before hooking it to the XBOX.
>
>>Is the performance decent so far? I'm curious if there is any real
>>performance differrence using an 11g game adapter vs 11g pci card.
>
> Performance seems to be fine. Transfers are about 1,300KBps which is
> about all you're going to get out of Wireless G.

Is that B for Bytes? So times eight and you get about equal to 10400
kbits/sec, or 10 megabits/sec. Sounds not too bad, if you can get it
stable at that speed. I wonder if that's fast enough to play a
DivX/Xvid/MSMpeg4 movie without skipping.

Thanks again for sharing the info. Sorry I could not help more.

"Mr. Grinch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns94D28620A6B4Egrinchhatespamyucksh@24.71.22 3.159...
> Rich Heimlich <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > I own a Linksys Wireless G Router and a Linksys Wireless G Game
> > Adapter to use with my XBOX (modified so that I can run XBOX Media
> > Center).
> >
> > Everything is up and running and works great. I can FTP to the XBOX
> > and transfer files in and out, Internet apps work great on the XBOX
> > side too.
> >
> > However, the one thing I cannot get working is that I cannot directly
> > connect to the Adapter with a browser from the PC upstairs. I don't
> > get it. Everything down there is setup as default so it's at
> > 192.168.1.250. The SSID's match. But if I go to that IP I get Page Not
> > Found after a long delay.
> >
> > On the PC side I'm setup static with my PC at a static IP and the
> > default gateway set to 192.168.1.1.
> >
> > Anyone have any idea why I cannot bring up the setup screen for the
> > adapter from the PC??? No trouble doing it when I connect it directly
> > to the router. I can't ping it either.
> >
>
> Just a guess, and that is that the web config only works from the ethernet
> interface. Any attempt to connect to it from the other direction,
> wireless, would be disabled, because it would be considered less secure.
>
> There may be a way to change this however. For example, I have their
> BEFSR41 cable/dsl router. By default, it only lets you get to the web
> config if you are connected to a LAN port. You can't do it if you are
> coming in over the WAN port. But there are options in the config to
enable
> remote config with a password. There may be a similar setting for your
> wireless game adapter.
>
> I'm considering buying the Wireless G game adapter myself, because it
> should work to connect any PC that already has an ethernet card. This
> would save me trouble installing various PCI cards in old PCs or other
> devices. Most everything already has an ethernet port in it these days.
> The other option is USB, but things like the Xbox or old PCs don't have
USB
> or don't network via USB too well.
>
> Is the performance decent so far? I'm curious if there is any real
> performance differrence using an 11g game adapter vs 11g pci card.
>
>

Something is wrong with your router setup. I have or had three of BEFSR41
v2-v3 and have never had any problem accessing the router GUI from wireless.

Q

"Rich Heimlich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Guys,
>
> I own a Linksys Wireless G Router and a Linksys Wireless G Game
> Adapter to use with my XBOX (modified so that I can run XBOX Media
> Center).
>
> Everything is up and running and works great. I can FTP to the XBOX
> and transfer files in and out, Internet apps work great on the XBOX
> side too.
>
> However, the one thing I cannot get working is that I cannot directly
> connect to the Adapter with a browser from the PC upstairs. I don't
> get it. Everything down there is setup as default so it's at
> 192.168.1.250. The SSID's match. But if I go to that IP I get Page Not
> Found after a long delay.
>
> On the PC side I'm setup static with my PC at a static IP and the
> default gateway set to 192.168.1.1.
>
> Anyone have any idea why I cannot bring up the setup screen for the
> adapter from the PC??? No trouble doing it when I connect it directly
> to the router. I can't ping it either.

FWIW, the Linksys game adapters are suspect. The only way I can configure
the -b version of the adapter is to directly connect through the ethernet
port to a computer. When setting up my son's system with the WRT54G, it was
also impossible to configure it through wireless or the Linksys router. It
was so frustrating that we exchanged for complete Microsoft adapters and
router, and had no problem with anything - setup took only minutes. Linksys
needs to do some work with these adapters (as well as some of their other
consumer equipment.)

Q

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:22:06 GMT, "Mr. Grinch" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Safe to assume you've already tried the latest firmware for the device?

There isn't any posted on their site. What came with it is it.

>Thanks for sharing this info. I'll have to make sure to specifically test
>some large transfers to see if this happens to me as well. I've been

On both the router and the access point I've just had it lock up while
sending changes to it. Support recommended changing the SSID from the
default setting. They seem to think it's connecting to someone else's
network. Yeah, okay. None of my neighbors are the wireless type.

>So are you considering returning it to get the Xbox wireless G adapter or
>something else?

I've had it a bit too long to return it. But I may complain to Linksys
and move to their full wireless access point device. I see less
complaints about it.

>Is that B for Bytes? So times eight and you get about equal to 10400
>kbits/sec, or 10 megabits/sec. Sounds not too bad, if you can get it
>stable at that speed. I wonder if that's fast enough to play a
>DivX/Xvid/MSMpeg4 movie without skipping.

That's correct, and it plays movies fine when I stream them from my
PC.

>Thanks again for sharing the info. Sorry I could not help more.

NO problem.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:33:10 -0600, "Quaoar" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>FWIW, the Linksys game adapters are suspect. The only way I can configure
>the -b version of the adapter is to directly connect through the ethernet
>port to a computer. When setting up my son's system with the WRT54G, it was
>also impossible to configure it through wireless or the Linksys router. It
>was so frustrating that we exchanged for complete Microsoft adapters and
>router, and had no problem with anything - setup took only minutes. Linksys
>needs to do some work with these adapters (as well as some of their other
>consumer equipment.)

Thanks. I may begin down that path myself. I'm very frustrated by the
instability of them.