Linksys Wireless-B Connection Trouble

I'm helping out a friend who's wireless home network just died.
They have a BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB network adapters.
Thinking their equipment was the cause of the problems, they purchased a new
Wireless-G Linksys Router.
I'm pretty sure the cause of the problems was actually interference with a
neighbor who must have recently installed similar wireless equipment. They
were getting multiple IP address conflicts, and while it took me a while to
realize it, while I was troubleshooting the network at their house, I had
actually logged into the neighbor's linksys router since neither family had
modified the default admin password. Of course neither of them had password
protected their routers, enabled WEP, changed the default router gateway IP
Address, or made any attempt at creating a unique SSID.

I've since left them with their new Wireless-G router, set their computers
to sub .100 static IPs and thus (I think) worked around the problems. I
also took the Wireless-B equipment back to my house to tinker with since at
the time I hadn't realized the neighbor's WiFi was complicating things and
their old router was probably just fine and dandy.

Well, now I'm not sure how fine and dandy this B equipment actually is.
I'm sitting here with a the BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and a WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB
network adapter within a foot of each other.
I set the router to use channel 11 for which I saw a minimal number of
neighbor's internet connections. I customized my router's default gateway
IP to 192.168.1.9, I set a unique SSID and router password, and I had
upgraded the router to the latest 1.50.10 firmware which failed once before
succeeding the second time.

So I'm testing out this wireless-B setup to get it all set before I bring it
over to the friends house and tell them to return their new G equipment. I
successfully establish plain vanilla wireless connection (no WEP)... After
navigating around to a couple pages... yahoo... gmail... etc.. to test the
connection, it all of the sudden drops. Straight from 100% excellent
connection with all the bars in the signal strength meter glowing green down
to nothing in an instant!!

After the sudden drop (and this is repeatable on different channels) I can't
even see the connection to reconnect to until I disable and re-enable the
wireless network connection in XP's network connections list. Am I just
fighting with too many other wireless routers in my vicinity? We have a
crappy 2.4 GHz Phone downstairs which I unplugged part way through the
trouble shooting (though I didn't take the battery out of the handset..
should I have?) Unplugging the base unit doesn't seem to have stopped the
WiFi dropping.

I'm worried that I'm dealing with some hardware or software problem and it
isn't just WiFi interference.
I'm using these latest downloadable drivers for the USB adapter
http://www.linksys.com/download/driv...lid=105&osid=6
and I've actually tried both 1.50.10 and backed off to 1.45.7 to see if the
latest router firmware was the cause of my sudden wireless connection
dropping syndrome.

It certainly seams like the problem is on the USB adapter side rather than
the linksys router side.
I assume the router hasn't stopped sending out it's WiFi signal, but the USB
adapter and/or Windows XP don't see the SSID after the drop until the WiFi
connection on the PC has been disabled and re-enabled. Is this indicative
of interference or a hardware or software problem with the linksys usb
adapter?

This equipment will be used in a house other than my own so if my house and
the interference daemons within it are the likely problem, then they'll be
exorcised when I bring the equipment back to the owner. I just don't want
to go back to the owner and find that it's just as unreliable as it's been
at my house.

These screen captures also makes me question the software and hardware here,
and not just interference issues.
The first picture shows the lack of available wireless networks after the
drop http://hosed.notlong.com
in advanced, my SSID, lainet is shown x'd out in preferred networks...
after clicking refresh once, I get a difference icon (that looks to me like
it indicates a live SSID in preferred networks.. It seems odd that it's not
also shown in "available networks"

after disabling and re-enabling the wireless connection in XP with two
simple right clicks, I get a very different picture...
http://re-enabled.notlong.com, my linksys router's SSID is available and I
connect and get full signal strength. It doesn't last long though.. As I've
already typed too many times... it just drops out of nowhere.

Is this strictly interference? Is this a typical interference failure
scenario? or do I have hardware or software issues?

Thanks in advance to all for all the help and insight you can offer.


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mine drops out thanks to my nearby 900mhz telephone


"hupjack" <hupjack_nospamtoday_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:F7OdneCMQY3WdQfdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm helping out a friend who's wireless home network just died.
> They have a BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB network adapters.
> Thinking their equipment was the cause of the problems, they purchased a
new
> Wireless-G Linksys Router.
> I'm pretty sure the cause of the problems was actually interference with a
> neighbor who must have recently installed similar wireless equipment.
They
> were getting multiple IP address conflicts, and while it took me a while
to
> realize it, while I was troubleshooting the network at their house, I had
> actually logged into the neighbor's linksys router since neither family
had
> modified the default admin password. Of course neither of them had
password
> protected their routers, enabled WEP, changed the default router gateway
IP
> Address, or made any attempt at creating a unique SSID.
>
> I've since left them with their new Wireless-G router, set their computers
> to sub .100 static IPs and thus (I think) worked around the problems. I
> also took the Wireless-B equipment back to my house to tinker with since
at
> the time I hadn't realized the neighbor's WiFi was complicating things and
> their old router was probably just fine and dandy.
>
> Well, now I'm not sure how fine and dandy this B equipment actually is.
> I'm sitting here with a the BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and a WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB
> network adapter within a foot of each other.
> I set the router to use channel 11 for which I saw a minimal number of
> neighbor's internet connections. I customized my router's default
gateway
> IP to 192.168.1.9, I set a unique SSID and router password, and I had
> upgraded the router to the latest 1.50.10 firmware which failed once
before
> succeeding the second time.
>
> So I'm testing out this wireless-B setup to get it all set before I bring
it
> over to the friends house and tell them to return their new G equipment.
I
> successfully establish plain vanilla wireless connection (no WEP)...
After
> navigating around to a couple pages... yahoo... gmail... etc.. to test the
> connection, it all of the sudden drops. Straight from 100% excellent
> connection with all the bars in the signal strength meter glowing green
down
> to nothing in an instant!!
>
> After the sudden drop (and this is repeatable on different channels) I
can't
> even see the connection to reconnect to until I disable and re-enable the
> wireless network connection in XP's network connections list. Am I just
> fighting with too many other wireless routers in my vicinity? We have a
> crappy 2.4 GHz Phone downstairs which I unplugged part way through the
> trouble shooting (though I didn't take the battery out of the handset..
> should I have?) Unplugging the base unit doesn't seem to have stopped the
> WiFi dropping.
>
> I'm worried that I'm dealing with some hardware or software problem and it
> isn't just WiFi interference.
> I'm using these latest downloadable drivers for the USB adapter
> http://www.linksys.com/download/driv...lid=105&osid=6
> and I've actually tried both 1.50.10 and backed off to 1.45.7 to see if
the
> latest router firmware was the cause of my sudden wireless connection
> dropping syndrome.
>
> It certainly seams like the problem is on the USB adapter side rather than
> the linksys router side.
> I assume the router hasn't stopped sending out it's WiFi signal, but the
USB
> adapter and/or Windows XP don't see the SSID after the drop until the WiFi
> connection on the PC has been disabled and re-enabled. Is this indicative
> of interference or a hardware or software problem with the linksys usb
> adapter?
>
> This equipment will be used in a house other than my own so if my house
and
> the interference daemons within it are the likely problem, then they'll be
> exorcised when I bring the equipment back to the owner. I just don't want
> to go back to the owner and find that it's just as unreliable as it's been
> at my house.
>
> These screen captures also makes me question the software and hardware
here,
> and not just interference issues.
> The first picture shows the lack of available wireless networks after the
> drop http://hosed.notlong.com
> in advanced, my SSID, lainet is shown x'd out in preferred networks...
> after clicking refresh once, I get a difference icon (that looks to me
like
> it indicates a live SSID in preferred networks.. It seems odd that it's
not
> also shown in "available networks"
>
> after disabling and re-enabling the wireless connection in XP with two
> simple right clicks, I get a very different picture...
> http://re-enabled.notlong.com, my linksys router's SSID is available and I
> connect and get full signal strength. It doesn't last long though.. As
I've
> already typed too many times... it just drops out of nowhere.
>
> Is this strictly interference? Is this a typical interference failure
> scenario? or do I have hardware or software issues?
>
> Thanks in advance to all for all the help and insight you can offer.
>
>
> --
> To e-mail me, replace "_nospamtoday_" with the "@" symbol when replying to
> my address.
>
>

Wow! 900 MHz = 0.9 GHz. Your cordless phone must be illegally radiating
all over the spectrum to be interfering with 2.4 GHz WiFi devices.

Ron Bandes

"Americhicken" <Americhicken@nstoekr_td.com> wrote in message
news:Qq6dnRSsRfLKZQfdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> mine drops out thanks to my nearby 900mhz telephone
>
>
> "hupjack" <hupjack_nospamtoday_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:F7OdneCMQY3WdQfdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm helping out a friend who's wireless home network just died.
> > They have a BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB network
adapters.
> > Thinking their equipment was the cause of the problems, they purchased a
> new
> > Wireless-G Linksys Router.
> > I'm pretty sure the cause of the problems was actually interference with
a
> > neighbor who must have recently installed similar wireless equipment.
> They
> > were getting multiple IP address conflicts, and while it took me a while
> to
> > realize it, while I was troubleshooting the network at their house, I
had
> > actually logged into the neighbor's linksys router since neither family
> had
> > modified the default admin password. Of course neither of them had
> password
> > protected their routers, enabled WEP, changed the default router gateway
> IP
> > Address, or made any attempt at creating a unique SSID.
> >
> > I've since left them with their new Wireless-G router, set their
computers
> > to sub .100 static IPs and thus (I think) worked around the problems.
I
> > also took the Wireless-B equipment back to my house to tinker with since
> at
> > the time I hadn't realized the neighbor's WiFi was complicating things
and
> > their old router was probably just fine and dandy.
> >
> > Well, now I'm not sure how fine and dandy this B equipment actually is.
> > I'm sitting here with a the BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and a WUSB11 ver 2.8
USB
> > network adapter within a foot of each other.
> > I set the router to use channel 11 for which I saw a minimal number of
> > neighbor's internet connections. I customized my router's default
> gateway
> > IP to 192.168.1.9, I set a unique SSID and router password, and I had
> > upgraded the router to the latest 1.50.10 firmware which failed once
> before
> > succeeding the second time.
> >
> > So I'm testing out this wireless-B setup to get it all set before I
bring
> it
> > over to the friends house and tell them to return their new G equipment.
> I
> > successfully establish plain vanilla wireless connection (no WEP)...
> After
> > navigating around to a couple pages... yahoo... gmail... etc.. to test
the
> > connection, it all of the sudden drops. Straight from 100% excellent
> > connection with all the bars in the signal strength meter glowing green
> down
> > to nothing in an instant!!
> >
> > After the sudden drop (and this is repeatable on different channels) I
> can't
> > even see the connection to reconnect to until I disable and re-enable
the
> > wireless network connection in XP's network connections list. Am I just
> > fighting with too many other wireless routers in my vicinity? We have a
> > crappy 2.4 GHz Phone downstairs which I unplugged part way through the
> > trouble shooting (though I didn't take the battery out of the handset..
> > should I have?) Unplugging the base unit doesn't seem to have stopped
the
> > WiFi dropping.
> >
> > I'm worried that I'm dealing with some hardware or software problem and
it
> > isn't just WiFi interference.
> > I'm using these latest downloadable drivers for the USB adapter
> > http://www.linksys.com/download/driv...lid=105&osid=6
> > and I've actually tried both 1.50.10 and backed off to 1.45.7 to see if
> the
> > latest router firmware was the cause of my sudden wireless connection
> > dropping syndrome.
> >
> > It certainly seams like the problem is on the USB adapter side rather
than
> > the linksys router side.
> > I assume the router hasn't stopped sending out it's WiFi signal, but the
> USB
> > adapter and/or Windows XP don't see the SSID after the drop until the
WiFi
> > connection on the PC has been disabled and re-enabled. Is this
indicative
> > of interference or a hardware or software problem with the linksys usb
> > adapter?
> >
> > This equipment will be used in a house other than my own so if my house
> and
> > the interference daemons within it are the likely problem, then they'll
be
> > exorcised when I bring the equipment back to the owner. I just don't
want
> > to go back to the owner and find that it's just as unreliable as it's
been
> > at my house.
> >
> > These screen captures also makes me question the software and hardware
> here,
> > and not just interference issues.
> > The first picture shows the lack of available wireless networks after
the
> > drop http://hosed.notlong.com
> > in advanced, my SSID, lainet is shown x'd out in preferred networks...
> > after clicking refresh once, I get a difference icon (that looks to me
> like
> > it indicates a live SSID in preferred networks.. It seems odd that it's
> not
> > also shown in "available networks"
> >
> > after disabling and re-enabling the wireless connection in XP with two
> > simple right clicks, I get a very different picture...
> > http://re-enabled.notlong.com, my linksys router's SSID is available and
I
> > connect and get full signal strength. It doesn't last long though.. As
> I've
> > already typed too many times... it just drops out of nowhere.
> >
> > Is this strictly interference? Is this a typical interference failure
> > scenario? or do I have hardware or software issues?
> >
> > Thanks in advance to all for all the help and insight you can offer.
> >
> >
> > --
> > To e-mail me, replace "_nospamtoday_" with the "@" symbol when replying
to
> > my address.
> >
> >
>
>

Get a 5.8 Ghz phone!

On Thu, 6 May 2004 20:45:41 -0600, "Americhicken"
<Americhicken@nstoekr_td.com> wrote:

>mine drops out thanks to my nearby 900mhz telephone
>
>
>"hupjack" <hupjack_nospamtoday_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:F7OdneCMQY3WdQfdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm helping out a friend who's wireless home network just died.
>> They have a BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB network adapters.
>> Thinking their equipment was the cause of the problems, they purchased a
>new
>> Wireless-G Linksys Router.
>> I'm pretty sure the cause of the problems was actually interference with a
>> neighbor who must have recently installed similar wireless equipment.
>They
>> were getting multiple IP address conflicts, and while it took me a while
>to
>> realize it, while I was troubleshooting the network at their house, I had
>> actually logged into the neighbor's linksys router since neither family
>had
>> modified the default admin password. Of course neither of them had
>password
>> protected their routers, enabled WEP, changed the default router gateway
>IP
>> Address, or made any attempt at creating a unique SSID.
>>
>> I've since left them with their new Wireless-G router, set their computers
>> to sub .100 static IPs and thus (I think) worked around the problems. I
>> also took the Wireless-B equipment back to my house to tinker with since
>at
>> the time I hadn't realized the neighbor's WiFi was complicating things and
>> their old router was probably just fine and dandy.
>>
>> Well, now I'm not sure how fine and dandy this B equipment actually is.
>> I'm sitting here with a the BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and a WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB
>> network adapter within a foot of each other.
>> I set the router to use channel 11 for which I saw a minimal number of
>> neighbor's internet connections. I customized my router's default
>gateway
>> IP to 192.168.1.9, I set a unique SSID and router password, and I had
>> upgraded the router to the latest 1.50.10 firmware which failed once
>before
>> succeeding the second time.
>>
>> So I'm testing out this wireless-B setup to get it all set before I bring
>it
>> over to the friends house and tell them to return their new G equipment.
>I
>> successfully establish plain vanilla wireless connection (no WEP)...
>After
>> navigating around to a couple pages... yahoo... gmail... etc.. to test the
>> connection, it all of the sudden drops. Straight from 100% excellent
>> connection with all the bars in the signal strength meter glowing green
>down
>> to nothing in an instant!!
>>
>> After the sudden drop (and this is repeatable on different channels) I
>can't
>> even see the connection to reconnect to until I disable and re-enable the
>> wireless network connection in XP's network connections list. Am I just
>> fighting with too many other wireless routers in my vicinity? We have a
>> crappy 2.4 GHz Phone downstairs which I unplugged part way through the
>> trouble shooting (though I didn't take the battery out of the handset..
>> should I have?) Unplugging the base unit doesn't seem to have stopped the
>> WiFi dropping.
>>
>> I'm worried that I'm dealing with some hardware or software problem and it
>> isn't just WiFi interference.
>> I'm using these latest downloadable drivers for the USB adapter
>> http://www.linksys.com/download/driv...lid=105&osid=6
>> and I've actually tried both 1.50.10 and backed off to 1.45.7 to see if
>the
>> latest router firmware was the cause of my sudden wireless connection
>> dropping syndrome.
>>
>> It certainly seams like the problem is on the USB adapter side rather than
>> the linksys router side.
>> I assume the router hasn't stopped sending out it's WiFi signal, but the
>USB
>> adapter and/or Windows XP don't see the SSID after the drop until the WiFi
>> connection on the PC has been disabled and re-enabled. Is this indicative
>> of interference or a hardware or software problem with the linksys usb
>> adapter?
>>
>> This equipment will be used in a house other than my own so if my house
>and
>> the interference daemons within it are the likely problem, then they'll be
>> exorcised when I bring the equipment back to the owner. I just don't want
>> to go back to the owner and find that it's just as unreliable as it's been
>> at my house.
>>
>> These screen captures also makes me question the software and hardware
>here,
>> and not just interference issues.
>> The first picture shows the lack of available wireless networks after the
>> drop http://hosed.notlong.com
>> in advanced, my SSID, lainet is shown x'd out in preferred networks...
>> after clicking refresh once, I get a difference icon (that looks to me
>like
>> it indicates a live SSID in preferred networks.. It seems odd that it's
>not
>> also shown in "available networks"
>>
>> after disabling and re-enabling the wireless connection in XP with two
>> simple right clicks, I get a very different picture...
>> http://re-enabled.notlong.com, my linksys router's SSID is available and I
>> connect and get full signal strength. It doesn't last long though.. As
>I've
>> already typed too many times... it just drops out of nowhere.
>>
>> Is this strictly interference? Is this a typical interference failure
>> scenario? or do I have hardware or software issues?
>>
>> Thanks in advance to all for all the help and insight you can offer.
>>
>>
>> --
>> To e-mail me, replace "_nospamtoday_" with the "@" symbol when replying to
>> my address.
>>
>>
>

In article <F7OdneCMQY3WdQfdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)>, "hupjack"
<hupjack_nospamtoday_yahoo.com> says...
> I'm helping out a friend who's wireless home network just died.
> They have a BEFW11S4 ver.4 router and WUSB11 ver 2.8 USB network adapters.
> Thinking their equipment was the cause of the problems, they purchased a new
> Wireless-G Linksys Router.
> I'm pretty sure the cause of the problems was actually interference with a
> neighbor who must have recently installed similar wireless equipment. They
> were getting multiple IP address conflicts, and while it took me a while to
> realize it, while I was troubleshooting the network at their house, I had
> actually logged into the neighbor's linksys router since neither family had
> modified the default admin password. Of course neither of them had password
> protected their routers, enabled WEP, changed the default router gateway IP
> Address, or made any attempt at creating a unique SSID.
>
> I've since left them with their new Wireless-G router, set their computers
> to sub .100 static IPs and thus (I think) worked around the problems. I
> also took the Wireless-B equipment back to my house to tinker with since at
> the time I hadn't realized the neighbor's WiFi was complicating things and
> their old router was probably just fine and dandy.
>
> Well, now I'm not sure how fine and dandy this B equipment actually is.
You might want to check out some of the messages here as well...

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/linksys

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Anything more specific? I did a pretty thorough job of describing the
failure. Can anybody tell me if my description corresponds with
interference or if this is more likely dead hardware or bad software?

If it's interference, I can just bring it back to the owners house, where
there might not be the same interference. I'm an engineer though.. I want
to understand what's going on here.

> You might want to check out some of the messages here as well...
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/linksys
>
> --
>
> Ben E. Brady
> http://www.clariondeveloper.com/wepgen
> FREE! Effectively manage your Wi-Fi network.
> Change your WEP keys often!
>
> http://www.clariondeveloper.com/webcloak
> FREE! Encrypt email addresses on your web site!
> Keep spam bots from sending you spam!
>
> http://www.firewallreporting.com
> Personal firewall log analysis tools for
> ZoneAlarm, BlackICE, WinRoute Pro and Windows XP
> Take stock of your firewall settings and take action against intruders.
>
> http://www.videoprofessorscam.com
> Don't get stung by this scam!
>
>
>

I am seeing the exact same issue - and I cannot get past it either.

Have you found any resolution?

Daniel Bohner
www.existinglight.net