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Greg Ember
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      02-11-2004, 06:24 AM
Okay, here's the scoop:

Description of Network:
I have a Motorola SB4200 going into a Linksys BEFSR41. From there,
everything else was ordered from Dell as a package. The package
consisted of: Three Dell TrueMobile 1150 PC Cards and a Linksys WAP11
v1.1. Regarding firmware, the BEFSR41 v2 is running v1.45.7, the WAP11
v1.1 is using firmware 1.4j1, 2 of the TrueMobile 1150 PC Cards are
using Dell vA20 drivers and associated firmware. The other is using
Dell vA22 drivers and firmware. One of the systems will be upgraded in
the future to A22, the other I'm having problems upgrading - the
install complains about a missing file but refuses to tell me the
filename. (See this posting for more details if curious:
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportfor...essage.id=3736)
Anyhow, this problem has been happening even with all three systems
with vA20 drivers. Finally, all systems are running Windows XP SR1.
And I'm broadcasting over typical AP settings - Channel 6, and those
other Frag/RTS settings. Supposedly, I'm in Infrastructure mode.
Configured the router using UPnP, everything's working beautifully
with the router. One of the PCs is on the ground floor, one is
upstairs and one is downstairs in the daylight basement.

Brief Description of the Problem:
The last time I enabled WEP, 128-bit OR 64-bit, the network crashed
and I had to restart the router and the access point.

Lengthier Description:
First, a caveat - the last time I tried enabling WEP, the router and
the access point had different - factory - firmware, and I haven't
retried recently. But anyways, what happened is that if I enabled
128-bit WEP, the router crashed within 10-30 minutes, with all systems
displaying "Wireless Network Not Available." If I enabled 64-bit WEP,
it seemed to affect the time involved - more like 45-60 minutes,
although I could be mistaken. Only thing that seemed to help was to
power off - then power on the access point. Sometimes, even changing a
setting in the USB configuration and clicking Apply and then changing
it back and clicking Apply was enough, other times the router needed
rebooting too, to get the network running for the next hour. I tried
running a program that pinged the access point for it to "stay awake"
(I read something about problems with sleep mode kicking on?), that
didn't work. Additionally tried changing the broadcast channel,
RTS/Frag settings - didn't work either, so I set the settings back.

Workaround:
Disabling WEP and enabling MAC address filtering seems to be enough to
satisfy the managers enough for security reasons. However, I'd
eventually like to enable WEP, even WPA - the new Dell TrueMobile 1150
vA22 drivers support WPA, but there doesn't seem to be an upgrade for
the WAP11 v1.1. Looks like I'll have to get a replacement for that, I
think - unless there's a hack. OTOH, I fear adding WEP - signal
strength at some areas only 25 ft. from the WAP11 right now as things
are makes the network connection fall to 2mbps - good enough for the
cable modem, but BAD for sharing files between PCs. And I've heard
that enabling WEP drastically drops network performance. And I still
experience intermittent dropouts which I haven't troubleshooted yet, I
pray it's related to the Siemens 2.4GHz telephone system...

I just added a cheap WiFi card to the mix - a "TecNew WL1001" PC Card
- really an AMD AM1772-based card, uses AMD drivers - same as an SMC
SMC2602W. Low, LOW price - my cost as an employee of a computer sales
store was $17.00 USD. Other problems with that as well - I'll post
later.

I'll take suggestions and questions on this problem here, though. Do
you think the firmware updates fixed the problem? Is the interference
here too bad to do WEP (shouldn't be - I'm out in the middle of
nowhere!)? Are you guys gonna force me to try enabling WEP again, and
get me huffing-and-puffing up and down the stairs? ;-)

- Greg
 
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      02-17-2004, 10:03 AM
(E-Mail Removed) (Greg Ember) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed) om>...
> Okay, here's the scoop:
>
> Description of Network:
> I have a Motorola SB4200 going into a Linksys BEFSR41. From there,
> everything else was ordered from Dell as a package. The package
> consisted of: Three Dell TrueMobile 1150 PC Cards and a Linksys WAP11
> v1.1. Regarding firmware, the BEFSR41 v2 is running v1.45.7, the WAP11
> v1.1 is using firmware 1.4j1, 2 of the TrueMobile 1150 PC Cards are
> using Dell vA20 drivers and associated firmware. The other is using
> Dell vA22 drivers and firmware. One of the systems will be upgraded in
> the future to A22, the other I'm having problems upgrading - the
> install complains about a missing file but refuses to tell me the
> filename. (See this posting for more details if curious:
> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportfor...essage.id=3736)
> Anyhow, this problem has been happening even with all three systems
> with vA20 drivers. Finally, all systems are running Windows XP SR1.
> And I'm broadcasting over typical AP settings - Channel 6, and those
> other Frag/RTS settings. Supposedly, I'm in Infrastructure mode.
> Configured the router using UPnP, everything's working beautifully
> with the router. One of the PCs is on the ground floor, one is
> upstairs and one is downstairs in the daylight basement.
>
> Brief Description of the Problem:
> The last time I enabled WEP, 128-bit OR 64-bit, the network crashed
> and I had to restart the router and the access point.
>
> Lengthier Description:
> First, a caveat - the last time I tried enabling WEP, the router and
> the access point had different - factory - firmware, and I haven't
> retried recently. But anyways, what happened is that if I enabled
> 128-bit WEP, the router crashed within 10-30 minutes, with all systems
> displaying "Wireless Network Not Available." If I enabled 64-bit WEP,
> it seemed to affect the time involved - more like 45-60 minutes,
> although I could be mistaken. Only thing that seemed to help was to
> power off - then power on the access point. Sometimes, even changing a
> setting in the USB configuration and clicking Apply and then changing
> it back and clicking Apply was enough, other times the router needed
> rebooting too, to get the network running for the next hour. I tried
> running a program that pinged the access point for it to "stay awake"
> (I read something about problems with sleep mode kicking on?), that
> didn't work. Additionally tried changing the broadcast channel,
> RTS/Frag settings - didn't work either, so I set the settings back.
>
> Workaround:
> Disabling WEP and enabling MAC address filtering seems to be enough to
> satisfy the managers enough for security reasons. However, I'd
> eventually like to enable WEP, even WPA - the new Dell TrueMobile 1150
> vA22 drivers support WPA, but there doesn't seem to be an upgrade for
> the WAP11 v1.1. Looks like I'll have to get a replacement for that, I
> think - unless there's a hack. OTOH, I fear adding WEP - signal
> strength at some areas only 25 ft. from the WAP11 right now as things
> are makes the network connection fall to 2mbps - good enough for the
> cable modem, but BAD for sharing files between PCs. And I've heard
> that enabling WEP drastically drops network performance. And I still
> experience intermittent dropouts which I haven't troubleshooted yet, I
> pray it's related to the Siemens 2.4GHz telephone system...
>
> I just added a cheap WiFi card to the mix - a "TecNew WL1001" PC Card
> - really an AMD AM1772-based card, uses AMD drivers - same as an SMC
> SMC2602W. Low, LOW price - my cost as an employee of a computer sales
> store was $17.00 USD. Other problems with that as well - I'll post
> later.
>
> I'll take suggestions and questions on this problem here, though. Do
> you think the firmware updates fixed the problem? Is the interference
> here too bad to do WEP (shouldn't be - I'm out in the middle of
> nowhere!)? Are you guys gonna force me to try enabling WEP again, and
> get me huffing-and-puffing up and down the stairs? ;-)
>
> - Greg


Still looking for some help here.

- Greg
 
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Ron
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      02-17-2004, 03:44 PM
> > Okay, here's the scoop:
> >
> > Description of Network:
> > I have a Motorola SB4200 going into a Linksys BEFSR41. From there,
> > everything else was ordered from Dell as a package. The package
> > consisted of: Three Dell TrueMobile 1150 PC Cards and a Linksys WAP11
> > v1.1. Regarding firmware, the BEFSR41 v2 is running v1.45.7, the WAP11
> > v1.1 is using firmware 1.4j1, 2 of the TrueMobile 1150 PC Cards are
> > using Dell vA20 drivers and associated firmware. The other is using
> > Dell vA22 drivers and firmware. One of the systems will be upgraded in
> > the future to A22, the other I'm having problems upgrading - the
> > install complains about a missing file but refuses to tell me the
> > filename. (See this posting for more details if curious:
> > http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?> - Greg


Few suggestions:
You should avoid mixing different manufacturers just to save a few
bucks.
Only 64-bit WEP is standard, 128 and higher are proprietary and may
not work reliably or at all.
Your text is quite long, I'm not sure if you have a wired-connected
computer to your router; when you say the router crashes, does a
wired-connected computer also loose the connection.
Start with only one computer wirelessly connected to the computer with
64-bit WEP. Use this simple setup for a couple of hours or days. Then
add others computers to the network.
 
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