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Have a network with a WAP54G for the wireless... all is ok. Have a WET11 bridge down in the family room for xbox + tivo... all is ok. Son wanted to move xbox to room and run an old WAP11 for access. OK - gaunlet begins... First - what is the difference on the WAP11 between AP Client - ? Bridge (pt to pt) - ? Well have it connected... sort of  BTW - it is REALLY HARD to tell if wifi things are working since NONE of these access points have any display showing those stations currently "associated" with the access point. So, it's impossible to tell what's going on. Anyway - back to current problem. I have the WAP54G, an old desktop, print server, router, etc all going into a "10mb hub" so I can see the packets on my protocol analyzer. I connect my laptop via a crossover cable to the WAP11... ok Since I can't really tell the "associations" - it's like shooting in the dark. Anyway, it appears to be connected, as I can ping across the link... sort of - Here's the weird part.... laptop (192.168.1.100) -> WAP11 (192.168.1.200) ----> WAP54G (1.245) -> "hub" <--- desktop (1.140) I can ping back and forth between 1.100 <--> 1.140 But I can't ping anything on the same "hub" network like 1.2 - router 1.6 - print server Any ideas ????????? -- ---------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright |
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"ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:ZdkSl.17615$%(E-Mail Removed)... > this is a weird one - > > Have a network with a WAP54G for the wireless... all is ok. > Have a WET11 bridge down in the family room for xbox + tivo... all is ok. > > Son wanted to move xbox to room and run an old WAP11 for access. > OK - gaunlet begins... > > First - what is the difference on the WAP11 between > AP Client - ? > Bridge (pt to pt) - ? > > Well have it connected... sort of > BTW - it is REALLY HARD to tell if wifi things are working > since NONE of these access points have any display > showing those stations currently "associated" with the access point. > So, it's impossible to tell what's going on. > > Anyway - back to current problem. > I have the WAP54G, an old desktop, print server, router, etc > all going into a "10mb hub" so I can see the packets on my protocol > analyzer. > > I connect my laptop via a crossover cable to the WAP11... ok > Since I can't really tell the "associations" - it's like shooting in the > dark. > Anyway, it appears to be connected, as I can ping across the link... sort > of - > > Here's the weird part.... > laptop (192.168.1.100) -> WAP11 (192.168.1.200) > ----> WAP54G (1.245) -> "hub" <--- desktop (1.140) > > I can ping back and forth between 1.100 <--> 1.140 > But I can't ping anything on the same "hub" network like > 1.2 - router > 1.6 - print server > > Any ideas ????????? > > -- It is some kind of ARP problem.... Brought up protocol analyzer on test laptop.... None of the ARP's are being replied to, but - we can see/receive all the network server broadcasts... test laptop wired to WAP 11 - no ARP's across connection, but receive broadcasts ok test laptop wired to far side hub - all ARP's & broadcasts ok test laptop using wifi - all ARP's & broadcasts ok SO - only when connected to the WAP11 are the ARP's being blocked somehow.... and it's not the laptop interface, as both the wifi and ethernet work fine when wired to hub or using WAP54g ???????? |
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"Peter Pan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed) m... > > "ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:s4RSl.30456$(E-Mail Removed)... >> >> "ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:ZdkSl.17615$%(E-Mail Removed)... >>> this is a weird one - >>> >>> Have a network with a WAP54G for the wireless... all is ok. >>> Have a WET11 bridge down in the family room for xbox + tivo... all is >>> ok. >>> >>> Son wanted to move xbox to room and run an old WAP11 for access. >>> OK - gaunlet begins... >>> >>> First - what is the difference on the WAP11 between >>> AP Client - ? >>> Bridge (pt to pt) - ? >>> >>> Well have it connected... sort of >>> BTW - it is REALLY HARD to tell if wifi things are working >>> since NONE of these access points have any display >>> showing those stations currently "associated" with the access point. >>> So, it's impossible to tell what's going on. >>> >>> Anyway - back to current problem. >>> I have the WAP54G, an old desktop, print server, router, etc >>> all going into a "10mb hub" so I can see the packets on my protocol >>> analyzer. >>> >>> I connect my laptop via a crossover cable to the WAP11... ok >>> Since I can't really tell the "associations" - it's like shooting in the >>> dark. >>> Anyway, it appears to be connected, as I can ping across the link... >>> sort of - >>> >>> Here's the weird part.... >>> laptop (192.168.1.100) -> WAP11 (192.168.1.200) >>> ----> WAP54G (1.245) -> "hub" <--- desktop (1.140) >>> >>> I can ping back and forth between 1.100 <--> 1.140 >>> But I can't ping anything on the same "hub" network like >>> 1.2 - router >>> 1.6 - print server >>> >>> Any ideas ????????? >>> >>> -- >> It is some kind of ARP problem.... >> Brought up protocol analyzer on test laptop.... >> >> None of the ARP's are being replied to, >> but - we can see/receive all the network server broadcasts... >> >> test laptop wired to WAP 11 - no ARP's across connection, >> but receive broadcasts ok >> >> test laptop wired to far side hub - all ARP's & broadcasts ok >> >> test laptop using wifi - all ARP's & broadcasts ok >> >> SO - only when connected to the WAP11 >> are the ARP's being blocked somehow.... >> and it's not the laptop interface, >> as both the wifi and ethernet work fine when wired to hub or using WAP54g >> ???????? >> >> > > so you are using the laptop as a bridge between the wired segment and the > wireless segment? Do you have the laptops wired and wireless software > bridge enabled? sounds like it isn't... ok - one more diagram list.... "test" laptop wired (1.100) -> WAP11 (1.200) ->>>TTTT TTTT ---->>>> WAP54g (1.245) ---> wired into "hub" "hub" also has.... 1.6 - print server 1.140 - desktop 1.15 - tivo The ARP's from the "test" laptop & WAP11 don't get replies - can see everything on the "test" laptop with a protocol analyzer... including the various network broadcasts from the WAP54g & hub wired network. If the laptop is connected directly to the "hub" or uses it'w wifi, everything works as normal - the only change/difference is the WAP11 - so it's not the laptop - For some reason, the ARP requests into the WAP11 are not making it across the brdige, or getting trashed on the WAP54g side - Need to run another "test" laptop & protocol analyzer on BOTH sides at the same time. |
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"Peter Pan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed) m... > > "ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news  uXSl.23181$(E-Mail Removed)...>> >> "Peter Pan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:(E-Mail Removed) m... >>> >>> "ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >>> news:s4RSl.30456$(E-Mail Removed)... >>>> >>>> "ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >>>> news:ZdkSl.17615$%(E-Mail Removed)... >>>>> this is a weird one - >>>>> >>>>> Have a network with a WAP54G for the wireless... all is ok. >>>>> Have a WET11 bridge down in the family room for xbox + tivo... all is >>>>> ok. >>>>> >>>>> Son wanted to move xbox to room and run an old WAP11 for access. >>>>> OK - gaunlet begins... >>>>> >>>>> First - what is the difference on the WAP11 between >>>>> AP Client - ? >>>>> Bridge (pt to pt) - ? >>>>> >>>>> Well have it connected... sort of >>>>> BTW - it is REALLY HARD to tell if wifi things are working >>>>> since NONE of these access points have any display >>>>> showing those stations currently "associated" with the access point. >>>>> So, it's impossible to tell what's going on. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway - back to current problem. >>>>> I have the WAP54G, an old desktop, print server, router, etc >>>>> all going into a "10mb hub" so I can see the packets on my protocol >>>>> analyzer. >>>>> >>>>> I connect my laptop via a crossover cable to the WAP11... ok >>>>> Since I can't really tell the "associations" - it's like shooting in >>>>> the dark. >>>>> Anyway, it appears to be connected, as I can ping across the link... >>>>> sort of - >>>>> >>>>> Here's the weird part.... >>>>> laptop (192.168.1.100) -> WAP11 (192.168.1.200) >>>>> ----> WAP54G (1.245) -> "hub" <--- desktop (1.140) >>>>> >>>>> I can ping back and forth between 1.100 <--> 1.140 >>>>> But I can't ping anything on the same "hub" network like >>>>> 1.2 - router >>>>> 1.6 - print server >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas ????????? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> It is some kind of ARP problem.... >>>> Brought up protocol analyzer on test laptop.... >>>> >>>> None of the ARP's are being replied to, >>>> but - we can see/receive all the network server broadcasts... >>>> >>>> test laptop wired to WAP 11 - no ARP's across connection, >>>> but receive broadcasts ok >>>> >>>> test laptop wired to far side hub - all ARP's & broadcasts ok >>>> >>>> test laptop using wifi - all ARP's & broadcasts ok >>>> >>>> SO - only when connected to the WAP11 >>>> are the ARP's being blocked somehow.... >>>> and it's not the laptop interface, >>>> as both the wifi and ethernet work fine when wired to hub or using >>>> WAP54g >>>> ???????? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> so you are using the laptop as a bridge between the wired segment and >>> the wireless segment? Do you have the laptops wired and wireless >>> software bridge enabled? sounds like it isn't... >> >> ok - one more diagram list.... >> >> "test" laptop wired (1.100) -> WAP11 (1.200) ->>>TTTT >> >> TTTT ---->>>> WAP54g (1.245) ---> wired into "hub" >> >> "hub" also has.... >> 1.6 - print server >> 1.140 - desktop >> 1.15 - tivo >> >> The ARP's from the "test" laptop & WAP11 don't get replies - >> can see everything on the "test" laptop with a protocol analyzer... >> including the various network broadcasts from the WAP54g & hub wired >> network. >> >> If the laptop is connected directly to the "hub" or uses it'w wifi, >> everything works as normal - the only change/difference is the WAP11 - so >> it's not the laptop - >> >> For some reason, the ARP requests into the WAP11 are not making it across >> the brdige, >> or getting trashed on the WAP54g side - >> Need to run another "test" laptop & protocol analyzer on BOTH sides at >> the same time. >> >> >> > > okay, i had asked if you had a bridge enabled between your wireless and > wired parts of your laptop, what type of laptop? a firewall setting would > block stuff across the bridge, but that is referring to a pc/windows > laptop... Is that what you have? (laptops come in mac/linux/dos/etc > flavors too) > > got everything nearby? can you just plug the 11 into the hub (instead of > the laptop, that takes the bridge/firewals/laptop os etc out of the > equation) and give it a try? That will narrow down big time where the > problem may be..... arrgghhhh - when "testing" using the laptop, I disable the wifi when connected via the Ethernet to the WAP11 and then disable the Ethernet & pull the cable when testing via wifi - It's all pretty straight forward, if you stop and just view the SIMPLE testing arrangement. |
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