Linksys Router Crash

Hi, I have a wireless/wired network at home consisting of a Vonage
Phone Router connected to my Cable modem, and connected to that is my
Linksys Wireless-b router which is how everything else in the house
connects to the net.


My problem is that whenever I run P2P software on my computer (eg.
Shareaza), before I even connect, my router will crash and the internet
connection will go down. Usually all I have to do to get it up and
running again is unplug the routers and plug them back in. I have
tried changing the port settings on Shareaza, and it seems that it
doesn't matter what it is, the router(s) still crashes.


If you need a clearer picture of how my network operates, I compiled
this rough sketch in MSPaint...
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2...network1up.jpg


So does anyone know what might be causing this/How to fix this? I
would be greatly appreciative to anyone who could share a little
insight. Thanks in advance!


Mike

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>Linksys Wireless-b router

>My problem is that whenever I run P2P software on my computer (eg.
>Shareaza), before I even connect, my router will crash

Yeah, they do that. Little known secret in the SOHO router market is
that nearly every router will fall over with enough traffic. I tried
every router I could find a while back and ended up with the D-Link
DI-624 that Verizon supplied with a special firmware (2.43DDM) that
doesn't fall over under heavy load.

Dunno what the solution is...

On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:00:48 -0500, William P.N. Smith
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>Linksys Wireless-b router
>
>>My problem is that whenever I run P2P software on my computer (eg.
>>Shareaza), before I even connect, my router will crash
>
>Yeah, they do that. Little known secret in the SOHO router market is
>that nearly every router will fall over with enough traffic. I tried
>every router I could find a while back and ended up with the D-Link
>DI-624 that Verizon supplied with a special firmware (2.43DDM) that
>doesn't fall over under heavy load.
>
>Dunno what the solution is...

I don't think he's experiencing any load or traffic when it crashes.

My BEFW11S4 will hang with the proper exploit or attack. Try the
test at:
http://www.pcflank.com/exploits.htm

Oh yeah, insert my usual nasty remarks about leaving out the model
numbers of the hardware and operating systems involved. I'm a bit
lazy today and really don't wanna overwork my crystal ball.

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In <(E-Mail Removed)> on Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:00:48
-0500, William P.N. Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>Linksys Wireless-b router
>
>>My problem is that whenever I run P2P software on my computer (eg.
>>Shareaza), before I even connect, my router will crash
>
>Yeah, they do that. Little known secret in the SOHO router market is
>that nearly every router will fall over with enough traffic. ...

In all of the many routers I've used I've never seen such a problem -- other
problems, sure, but not falling over under heavy traffic.

--
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

is there any way that this can be fixed? Like a firmware update or
anything?

William P.N. Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>Linksys Wireless-b router
>
>>My problem is that whenever I run P2P software on my computer (eg.
>>Shareaza), before I even connect, my router will crash
>
>Yeah, they do that. Little known secret in the SOHO router market is
>that nearly every router will fall over with enough traffic. I tried
>every router I could find a while back and ended up with the D-Link
>DI-624 that Verizon supplied with a special firmware (2.43DDM) that
>doesn't fall over under heavy load.
>
>Dunno what the solution is...

I've seen this as well on my Dell Wireless router(i think it is a
Dlink inside). Most of the time the box didn't hang completely but the
incoming traffic from peer-clients who rush to connect to me is so
large that performance dies to a trickle of what is available. If I
shut down my bittorrent client it takes 5-15 minutes for most of the
internet hosts to stop slamming my connection. Then things work fine.

The problem seems to be the sheer number of connections being made
from outside-to-inside. I have no problem sustaining 3Mbps downloads
for hours at a time, but open one bittorrent peering client and I
can't do more than 100k.
DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)

On 4 Dec 2005 11:51:41 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>is there any way that this can be fixed? Like a firmware update or
>anything?

Not that I know of. I'm using the latest greatest firmware from
Linksys for the BEFW11S4 1.52.02 as of April 7, 2005. I rechecked
last week and once again, it hung when I ran all the exploit tests. My
WRT54G with DD-WRT or Sveasoft firmware doesn't die. I'm not sure if
there are going to be any furthur firmware updates. Linksys is still
selling the BEFW11S4v4 on closeouts and discounts, so it's possible.

| http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...&ssbinary=true
Note item #17 in the current revision firmware. "Heart Beat" is
probably the watchdog timer event driver, which is intended to detect
if the router is hung and reboot as required. It's not fixed.

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Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:18:46 GMT, DigitalVinyl
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>The problem seems to be the sheer number of connections being made
>from outside-to-inside. I have no problem sustaining 3Mbps downloads
>for hours at a time, but open one bittorrent peering client and I
>can't do more than 100k.
>DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)

So, reduce the number of streams in BitTorrent.
Something like:
btdownloadgui.exe --minport 10000 --maxport 10029 --responsefile %1
which will limit the number of streams to 30.

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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

John Navas <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>In all of the many routers I've used I've never seen such a problem -- other
>problems, sure, but not falling over under heavy traffic.

Well, get yourself a Verizon FIOS line and fire up some BitTorrent.
Dunno if it's the bandwidth, the number of connections, the number of
unresolved external connection attempts, or what, but it killed every
router I tried.

Got my FIOS the end of April, so grep google news thereafter...

So which router should I ultimately replace? Should I trash both and
get a Wireless Vonage Router? Wouldn't want that one to be a dud
either though...