Linksys or Netgear

Further to my recent posting of "Wireless connection driving me crazy"
my supplier has special offers on:

Linksys by Cisco WAG120N Wireless N150 ADSL Modem Router
NETGEAR DG834G v5 Wireless-G ADSL Modem Router

This is small office/home use, 2 or 3 connections. Max broadband
speed available is 1Mb/s.

I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
two identical units.

Any opinions of which one's to go for? Should I be concerned at the
lack of external aerial on the Linksys? I primarily want reliability
of connection.

Many thanks

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AnthonyL

AnthonyL wrote:
> Further to my recent posting of "Wireless connection driving me crazy"
> my supplier has special offers on:
>
> Linksys by Cisco WAG120N Wireless N150 ADSL Modem Router
> NETGEAR DG834G v5 Wireless-G ADSL Modem Router
>
> This is small office/home use, 2 or 3 connections. Max broadband
> speed available is 1Mb/s.
>
> I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
> will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
> two identical units.
>
> Any opinions of which one's to go for? Should I be concerned at the
> lack of external aerial on the Linksys? I primarily want reliability
> of connection.
>
> Many thanks
>
Buffalo if you can find one
comes with wrt std

AnthonyL wrote:

> my supplier has special offers on:

What does 'my supplier' mean in this context?

Why would you be limiting your shopping in any way based on whatever
your 'supplier' is offering 'on special'?

I'm sure the retail price of those two different products is very
different, as one is N and the other is G.

There are lots and lots of sales on G technology nowadays.


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Mike Easter

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:22:26 -0700, Mike Easter <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>AnthonyL wrote:
>
>> my supplier has special offers on:
>
>What does 'my supplier' mean in this context?
>
>Why would you be limiting your shopping in any way based on whatever
>your 'supplier' is offering 'on special'?
>
>I'm sure the retail price of those two different products is very
>different, as one is N and the other is G.
>
>There are lots and lots of sales on G technology nowadays.
>

Given that I can buy at similar costs one of the two stated products
and that I have had a lot of bad experiences with a number of brands
leading to an earlier posting where people recommended that I ditch
the C&W product I am using and buy something else do you have a
sensible opinion on which, if any, would be a better buy?

PS I tend to buy from suppliers that are easy to buy from in terms of
any credit terms, returns policy, guarantees, customer service, goods
delivery tracking etc etc, and one of these suppliers is offering the
products I am looking at.


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AnthonyL

AnthonyL wrote:
> Mike Easter
>> AnthonyL wrote:
>>
>>> my supplier has special offers on:
>> What does 'my supplier' mean in this context?
>>
>> Why would you be limiting your shopping in any way based on whatever
>> your 'supplier' is offering 'on special'?

> PS I tend to buy from suppliers that are easy to buy from in terms of
> any credit terms, returns policy, guarantees, customer service, goods
> delivery tracking etc etc, and one of these suppliers is offering the
> products I am looking at.
>
Those very considerations are the numerous reasons that I buy most of my
electronic goods including routers from my local electronics store.

That store has an excellent returns policy; shortly after purchase the
return policy is basically 'no questions asked' - that is, the item
doesn't even have to be broken, just that it turned out that I didn't
want it after all. Then there is a significantly longer period in which
I can return an item and get a refund or a replacement because of
problems with the device.

And thus and especially there is no problem about shipping costs or
return shipping considerations both of which are huge considerations for
something which might not work satisfactorily in your environment.

I also don't understand why you say this:

AnthonyL wrote:

> I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
> will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
> two identical units.

That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
multifunctional in both those capacities.

What does the above cited sentence mean?

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Mike Easter

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:47:38 -0700, Mike Easter <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I also don't understand why you say this:
>
>AnthonyL wrote:
>
> > I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
> > will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
> > two identical units.
>
>That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
>modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
>multifunctional in both those capacities.
>
>What does the above cited sentence mean?

He may have seen or heard that a wireless router can easily be
repurposed as an access point, but I don't think the same is true when
starting with a modem-router combo unit, is it?

Char Jackson wrote:
> Mike Easter

>> That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
>> modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
>> multifunctional in both those capacities.

> He may have seen or heard that a wireless router can easily be
> repurposed as an access point, but I don't think the same is true when
> starting with a modem-router combo unit, is it?
>
First; I don't know what he meant. Second; I wouldn't speak
'generically' that there is no such thing anywhere as a router with a
DSL modem that can't also be an access point. Third; I still don't
comprehensively understand why this discussion is limited to just these
two significantly different products and (yet) no others. Fourth: I
also don't comprehensively understand exactly what kind of target
mission the device we should be looking for should have.

Somehow I sense that some salesman or sales process said, "Here are two
different dsl-modems 'on sale'/forsale, which one do you want?" just as
the shoe salesman limits his sales pitch to the woman to (just) 2
different shoes so that she won't be confused by being offered too many
choices.

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Mike Easter

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:01:40 -0700, Mike Easter <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Char Jackson wrote:
>> Mike Easter
>
>>> That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
>>> modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
>>> multifunctional in both those capacities.
>
>> He may have seen or heard that a wireless router can easily be
>> repurposed as an access point, but I don't think the same is true when
>> starting with a modem-router combo unit, is it?
>>
>First; I don't know what he meant. Second; I wouldn't speak
>'generically' that there is no such thing anywhere as a router with a
>DSL modem that can't also be an access point. Third; I still don't
>comprehensively understand why this discussion is limited to just these
>two significantly different products and (yet) no others. Fourth: I
>also don't comprehensively understand exactly what kind of target
>mission the device we should be looking for should have.
>
>Somehow I sense that some salesman or sales process said, "Here are two
>different dsl-modems 'on sale'/forsale, which one do you want?" just as
>the shoe salesman limits his sales pitch to the woman to (just) 2
>different shoes so that she won't be confused by being offered too many
>choices.

Great summary. I'm no farther ahead than you are.

On 20/04/10 15:47, Mike Easter wrote:

> I also don't understand why you say this:

There's some more context in the thread "Wireless connection driving me
crazy." that started 20th March.

> AnthonyL wrote:
>
> > I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
> > will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
> > two identical units.
>
> That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
> modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
> multifunctional in both those capacities.

Why do you think that *wouldn't* be the case? All the consumer-grade DSL
routers with Wifi that I've seen bridge their wireless and wired
ethernet ports, making them access points.

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alexd wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> I also don't understand why you say this:
>
> There's some more context in the thread "Wireless connection driving me
> crazy." that started 20th March.

I guess I'll have to look that up. For all I know his 'state of mind'
isn't the same now as it was 4.5 weeks ago. I was sorta hoping he would
say what his current intentions are.

>> AnthonyL wrote:
>>
>> > I'll be buying two units, one will be primarily a router and the other
>> > will primarily be an AP, but it suits for redundancy purposes to have
>> > two identical units.
>>
>> That sounds to me like you think that the same device, the DSL
>> modem/router can be used as an access point, as if it were
>> multifunctional in both those capacities.
>
> Why do you think that *wouldn't* be the case? All the consumer-grade DSL
> routers with Wifi that I've seen bridge their wireless and wired
> ethernet ports, making them access points.
>
I looked over the promotional overview for the Cisco N and the Netgear G
and the site didn't seem to be 'talking about' such a multimode
functionality. Being a wireless access point for a router's function
isn't the same thing as being a wireless bridge client.

The only device I have which is multifunctional is (just) an access
point, and it clearly promotes itself as that multifunction.

If you feel that both the Cisco and Netgear devices are capable of
functioning as anything but a wireless connnectivity for their router
function I would like for you to show me that in their docs.

http://kb.netgear.com/app/products/model/a_id/2327
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/EU/en/support/WAG120N


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Mike Easter