Linksys BEFW11S4 and viewing logs

A friend has the Linksys BEFW11S4 router. I have the BEFSX41 router -
His doesn't seem to have the "view logs" like mine -
it only shows the "tables" of incoming & outgoing addresses & ports -
but no "view log" command like this.....

02:44:10 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1058 to www.google.com(216.239.37.99):80
02:44:56 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1059 to groups.google.com(216.239.51.104):80
02:45:14 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1060 to
www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80
02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1062 to i.dslr.net(209.123.205.211):80
02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1064 to
www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80

is this correct - the BEFW11S4 does not show logs like above ?

I have an 11S4 V1, there is a view incoming and view outgoing log
capability. I also have logging turned ON and log to one of my PCs. I run
WallWatcher to capture the log and WallReviewer to examine it. Works really
well!

Bill

"Phil Schuman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> A friend has the Linksys BEFW11S4 router. I have the BEFSX41 router -
> His doesn't seem to have the "view logs" like mine -
> it only shows the "tables" of incoming & outgoing addresses & ports -
> but no "view log" command like this.....
>
> 02:44:10 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1058 to www.google.com(216.239.37.99):80
> 02:44:56 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1059 to
groups.google.com(216.239.51.104):80
> 02:45:14 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1060 to
> www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80
> 02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1062 to i.dslr.net(209.123.205.211):80
> 02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1064 to
> www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80
>
> is this correct - the BEFW11S4 does not show logs like above ?
>
>

The BEFSX41 has SPI (Stateful Packet Inspection). It has a completely
different logging mechanism.

I have used it - It is a very diff. product from the BEFSR41 and BEFW11S4
products. It even has a time daemon that goes out and sync's it's time with
some world time clocks.

"Phil Schuman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:X0r1c.30042$(E-Mail Removed) om...
> A friend has the Linksys BEFW11S4 router. I have the BEFSX41 router -
> His doesn't seem to have the "view logs" like mine -
> it only shows the "tables" of incoming & outgoing addresses & ports -
> but no "view log" command like this.....
>
> 02:44:10 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1058 to www.google.com(216.239.37.99):80
> 02:44:56 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1059 to
groups.google.com(216.239.51.104):80
> 02:45:14 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1060 to
> www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80
> 02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1062 to i.dslr.net(209.123.205.211):80
> 02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1064 to
> www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80
>
> is this correct - the BEFW11S4 does not show logs like above ?
>
>

"Jim Orfanakos" <jim@-nospam-orfanakos.com> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> The BEFSX41 has SPI (Stateful Packet Inspection). It has a completely
> different logging mechanism.
>
> I have used it - It is a very diff. product from the BEFSR41 and
> BEFW11S4 products. It even has a time daemon that goes out and sync's
> it's time with some world time clocks.
>
> "Phil Schuman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:X0r1c.30042$(E-Mail Removed) om...
>> A friend has the Linksys BEFW11S4 router. I have the BEFSX41 router
>> - His doesn't seem to have the "view logs" like mine -
>> it only shows the "tables" of incoming & outgoing addresses & ports -
>> but no "view log" command like this.....
>>
>> 02:44:10 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1058 to
>> www.google.com(216.239.37.99):80 02:44:56 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1059
>> to
> groups.google.com(216.239.51.104):80
>> 02:45:14 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1060 to
>> www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80
>> 02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1062 to
>> i.dslr.net(209.123.205.211):80 02:45:15 TCP from 192.168.1.150:1064
>> to www.dslreports.com(209.123.109.175):80
>>
>> is this correct - the BEFW11S4 does not show logs like above ?
>>
>>
>
>
>

It cannot be that different as the 11S4 V1 router use to have SPI. SPI
was removed from all version of the 11S4 over a year ago due to problems
with SPI working correctly.

Wallwatcher works with any Linksys BEF model router according to the
documentation.

Duane

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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<SNIP>

> It cannot be that different as the 11S4 V1 router use to have SPI. SPI
> was removed from all version of the 11S4 over a year ago due to problems
> with SPI working correctly.
>
> Wallwatcher works with any Linksys BEF model router according to the
> documentation.
>
> Duane

Excuse me - but they are different.

Aside from the standard BEFSR11/41 features - it can be monitored via SNMP
(and downloadable MIBs), it has SPI / Firewall, it has much more detailed
and robust logging (system, users, and firewall), it has VPN tunneling, it
supports URL filtering, ActiveX, JAVA, and Cookie Filtering, it has a NTPD
(I think it can be used as a NTP server - I don't remember).

Yes - older versions of the BEFSR11/41 firmware had SPI (it was removed in
version 1.43 - Sept '02) - but the BEFSX41 is based on a different firmware,
and has a different interface.

....and according to the WallWatcher web site - The Add-On "GETLOG - Version
2 has extended support for the BEFSX41 as well as improved support for
earlier BEF-class Routers"

"Happy Canuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have an 11S4 V1, there is a view incoming and view outgoing log
> capability. I also have logging turned ON and log to one of my PCs. I run
> WallWatcher to capture the log and WallReviewer to examine it. Works
really
> well!
>
> Bill
>
tnx for the comment
just downloaded the software & installed it on my machine -
looks great -

"Jim Orfanakos" <jim@-nospam-orfanakos.com> wrote in
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> "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns94A1B2F33EEB6darnold92insightbbco@216.148. 227.77...
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> It cannot be that different as the 11S4 V1 router use to have SPI.
>> SPI was removed from all version of the 11S4 over a year ago due to
>> problems with SPI working correctly.
>>
>> Wallwatcher works with any Linksys BEF model router according to the
>> documentation.
>>
>> Duane
>
> Excuse me - but they are different.
>
> Aside from the standard BEFSR11/41 features - it can be monitored via
> SNMP (and downloadable MIBs), it has SPI / Firewall, it has much more
> detailed and robust logging (system, users, and firewall), it has VPN
> tunneling, it supports URL filtering, ActiveX, JAVA, and Cookie
> Filtering, it has a NTPD (I think it can be used as a NTP server - I
> don't remember).
>
> Yes - older versions of the BEFSR11/41 firmware had SPI (it was
> removed in version 1.43 - Sept '02) - but the BEFSX41 is based on a
> different firmware, and has a different interface.
>
> ...and according to the WallWatcher web site - The Add-On "GETLOG -
> Version 2 has extended support for the BEFSX41 as well as improved
> support for earlier BEF-class Routers"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Not to offend you, but no Linksys router has a FW. At most, it has NAT
and SPI and some FW like features and that's it.

It meets the specs in the link.

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp

If it was an appliance with a FW, it would meet the specs in the link.

http://www.firewall-software.com/fir...rewall_do.html

You want an appliance with a FW, then Watchguard, Cisco, etc come to mind
and cost well over the price of a Linksys router, like nothing under
$200.

The Linksys routers have the title of Firewall in them, but routers in
this class and price range do not have FW(s).

Duane

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Jim Orfanakos" <jim@-nospam-orfanakos.com> wrote in
> news:e8qdnWJq8_vf5dvdRVn-(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:Xns94A1B2F33EEB6darnold92insightbbco@216.148. 227.77...
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> >> It cannot be that different as the 11S4 V1 router use to have SPI.
> >> SPI was removed from all version of the 11S4 over a year ago due to
> >> problems with SPI working correctly.
> >>
> >> Wallwatcher works with any Linksys BEF model router according to the
> >> documentation.
> >>
> >> Duane
> >
> > Excuse me - but they are different.
> >
> > Aside from the standard BEFSR11/41 features - it can be monitored via
> > SNMP (and downloadable MIBs), it has SPI / Firewall, it has much more
> > detailed and robust logging (system, users, and firewall), it has VPN
> > tunneling, it supports URL filtering, ActiveX, JAVA, and Cookie
> > Filtering, it has a NTPD (I think it can be used as a NTP server - I
> > don't remember).
> >
> > Yes - older versions of the BEFSR11/41 firmware had SPI (it was
> > removed in version 1.43 - Sept '02) - but the BEFSX41 is based on a
> > different firmware, and has a different interface.
> >
> > ...and according to the WallWatcher web site - The Add-On "GETLOG -
> > Version 2 has extended support for the BEFSX41 as well as improved
> > support for earlier BEF-class Routers"
> >
> >
>
> Not to offend you, but no Linksys router has a FW. At most, it has NAT
> and SPI and some FW like features and that's it.
>
> It meets the specs in the link.
>
> http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp
>
> If it was an appliance with a FW, it would meet the specs in the link.
>
> http://www.firewall-software.com/fir...rewall_do.html
>
> You want an appliance with a FW, then Watchguard, Cisco, etc come to mind
> and cost well over the price of a Linksys router, like nothing under
> $200.
>
> The Linksys routers have the title of Firewall in them, but routers in
> this class and price range do not have FW(s).
>
> Duane

That's fine - I agree with you - Linksys calls it a "firewall", where in
fact is has firewall like features.......but that is off topic from where we
started and what I replied to ... about the logs, and the similar versus
difference of the products .... ;-)

I like Link Logger - it's not free - but I think worth the cost
www.linklogger.com


"Phil Schuman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Happy Canuck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:77t1c.83143$(E-Mail Removed) able.rogers.com...
> > I have an 11S4 V1, there is a view incoming and view outgoing log
> > capability. I also have logging turned ON and log to one of my PCs. I
run
> > WallWatcher to capture the log and WallReviewer to examine it. Works
> really
> > well!
> >
> > Bill
> >
> tnx for the comment
> just downloaded the software & installed it on my machine -
> looks great -
>
>

tnx for the pointer to Wallwatcher -
http://www.sonic.net/wallwatcher/

BTW - when it starts up - how does it find the Linksys router ?
I don't have my protocol analyzer turned on tonight,
but will play a little tomorrow -
Wonder about a Public vs Private Community name -
I'm guessing it's doing some broadcasts with Port 162 & SNMP -
but I'll have to see how it only finds the Linksys router
vs anything else that might reply to SNMP broadcasts & queries -
Phil -