LinkSys AP setup question.

Hi

Have a LinkSys WRT54G router setup as the DHCP server. 3 Pcs plugged
into it and WLAN to internet. External omni antenna and LOS to a
wireless PC on a hill about 200' above it and 400' from the omni, with a
panel antenna pointed right at it. (Works great.) There's a second
wireless PC with a panel antenna above and has a clear LOS to the that
building, but not to the router, or the second pc's panel antenna. All
PCs need to share files, internet using the router DHCP and TCP/IP.

Question is... Can I take a LinkSys WAP54G and hook it to the 2nd
wireless pc via the existing ethernet port, then take panel antenna and
hook it to one side of the WAP. Then add a second Panel antenna to the
WAP and set it up outside the opposite side of the 2nd wireless pc's
building and point it at the third pc's panel antenna and have
everything work?

So the WAP54G would have two panel antennas hooked to it, one pointed
out each of the opposite sides of the building. The ethernet port of the
WAP54G attached to the 2nd wireless pc. Or do I have brain lock from
looking at too many wireless acronyms and there's an easier way? (Cost
is a consideration.)

Any suggestions, hints, experiences, etc. Would be greatly appreciated!
(+Hopefully I made this clear enough.)

Sounds good I think.....


This will work:
Building Flat Panel ----> Middle building AP Omni <---- Building Flat Panel
400' 7-17DB 400'

Please Draw out your scenario

Mike wrote:

>Sounds good I think.....
>
>
>This will work:
>Building Flat Panel ----> Middle building AP Omni <---- Building Flat Panel
> 400' 7-17DB 400'
>
>Please Draw out your scenario
>

I tried drawing it out for you, but as feared, I lost the formatting.
Hopefully this will work better...

(Wired PC Enet Port to AP)
Building Omni---> <---Panel Middle building AP Panel---> <--- Building Panel
Sea Level 400'Dist.+200'Elv. 400'+200' Elv.

What I'm desperately trying to convey here, is that the AP in the middle
building would have two external flat panel antennas and one ethernet
port wired to the middle building PC's ethernet port. The two flat panel
antennas would be working off the same AP in diversity mode and both
would be pointed out on opposite ends of the middle building. Would that
work, while having the middle building pc connected to the ethernet port
of the AP, so all machines would be assigned DHCP from the Router and
share files, etc. ?

If I understand you want to create a two antenna bridge between your
most distant building and your wireless router via an intermediate
building.

I would suggest the following (which may not be the BEST solution but
it is one that I know would work):

Building1 (/w omni) connected to
Building2 (patch) using a WET54G bridge (call it Bridge1)

In Building2 you connect the bridge to a small switch which is in turn
connected to your PC at Building2 and another bridge (call it Bridge2)
also in Building2.

From there you point the pacth from Bridge2 to Building3

Building3 would then have your final wireless client(s).

Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4018c0d7$0$32589$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
> Mike wrote:
>
> >Sounds good I think.....
> >
> >
> >This will work:
> >Building Flat Panel ----> Middle building AP Omni <---- Building Flat Panel
> > 400' 7-17DB 400'
> >
> >Please Draw out your scenario
> >
>
> I tried drawing it out for you, but as feared, I lost the formatting.
> Hopefully this will work better...
>
> (Wired PC Enet Port to AP)
> Building Omni---> <---Panel Middle building AP Panel---> <--- Building Panel
> Sea Level 400'Dist.+200'Elv. 400'+200' Elv.
>
> What I'm desperately trying to convey here, is that the AP in the middle
> building would have two external flat panel antennas and one ethernet
> port wired to the middle building PC's ethernet port. The two flat panel
> antennas would be working off the same AP in diversity mode and both
> would be pointed out on opposite ends of the middle building. Would that
> work, while having the middle building pc connected to the ethernet port
> of the AP, so all machines would be assigned DHCP from the Router and
> share files, etc. ?

dep_blueman wrote:

>If I understand you want to create a two antenna bridge between your
>most distant building and your wireless router via an intermediate
>building.
>
>
I am asking if a WAP54G wireless access point will work for that
configuration. If that access point in the middle building can have one
panel antenna pointed towards the Omni from the DHCP router and the same
middle building AP second panel antenna pointed towards the 3rd end
building. Then in addition to that, could the ethernet pot on the same
middle building access point be connected to a wired pc? Would the
actual poorly drawn schematic work as listed below? If not, is there
another comparably priced G AP that would work? Or am I missing
something?

>Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4018c0d7$0$32589$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
>
>
>> (Wired PC Enet Port to AP)
>>Building Omni---> <---Panel Middle building AP Panel---> <--- Building Panel
>> Sea Level 400'Dist.+200'Elv. 400'+200' Elv.
>>
>>

I understand and in general it seems like it MIGHT work but it is not
the way the AP was designed to work. I just don't know.

That is why I suggested the 2 bridge solution as I know that would
work. I should have said that in my orgional post.

-D

Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<40196de7$0$32587$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
> dep_blueman wrote:
>
> >If I understand you want to create a two antenna bridge between your
> >most distant building and your wireless router via an intermediate
> >building.
> >
> >
> I am asking if a WAP54G wireless access point will work for that
> configuration. If that access point in the middle building can have one
> panel antenna pointed towards the Omni from the DHCP router and the same
> middle building AP second panel antenna pointed towards the 3rd end
> building. Then in addition to that, could the ethernet pot on the same
> middle building access point be connected to a wired pc? Would the
> actual poorly drawn schematic work as listed below? If not, is there
> another comparably priced G AP that would work? Or am I missing
> something?
>
> >Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4018c0d7$0$32589$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
> >
> >
> >> (Wired PC Enet Port to AP)
> >>Building Omni---> <---Panel Middle building AP Panel---> <--- Building Panel
> >> Sea Level 400'Dist.+200'Elv. 400'+200' Elv.
> >>
> >>

Well I was just thinking that the WAP54G supposedly has the same kind of
radio setup as the WRT54G. Since the WRT54G as a stock unit both sends
and receives through both antennas simultaneously, I thought it might
work. Maybe <G>

I was thinking that if you had two workstations right next to the WAP
with one say working off the right antenna because of proximity and the
other working off the opposite antenna and then both pcs talking to the
router through the WAP, it seems like it should work. (Like my nice
run-on sentence structure? <G>) So the only lose end would be whether or
not the 3rd pc could be plugged in the ethernet port in the WAP and
access the same data as the others? The user guide is somewhat ambiguous
about this and I think the Linksys support team has died. The online
support chat representative told me that I should try and use the WAP as
it was recommended in the documentation that came with the thing. Then I
was told to have a nice day and he hung up. I subsequently fainted, much
like a goat would do.

dep_blueman wrote:

>I understand and in general it seems like it MIGHT work but it is not
>the way the AP was designed to work. I just don't know.
>
>That is why I suggested the 2 bridge solution as I know that would
>work. I should have said that in my orgional post.
>
>-D
>
>Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<40196de7$0$32587$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
>
>
>>dep_blueman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>If I understand you want to create a two antenna bridge between your
>>>most distant building and your wireless router via an intermediate
>>>building.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I am asking if a WAP54G wireless access point will work for that
>>configuration. If that access point in the middle building can have one
>>panel antenna pointed towards the Omni from the DHCP router and the same
>>middle building AP second panel antenna pointed towards the 3rd end
>>building. Then in addition to that, could the ethernet pot on the same
>>middle building access point be connected to a wired pc? Would the
>>actual poorly drawn schematic work as listed below? If not, is there
>>another comparably priced G AP that would work? Or am I missing
>>something?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4018c0d7$0$32589$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> (Wired PC Enet Port to AP)
>>>>Building Omni---> <---Panel Middle building AP Panel---> <--- Building Panel
>>>> Sea Level 400'Dist.+200'Elv. 400'+200' Elv.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

I am with you; it seems like it should work. In fact, if I were you I
would get an AP and all the other equiptment and test it out. If it
does not work then you can just return the AP and get two bridges and
reuse all the other hardware.

I would be interested to know what happens. Good luck!

-D

Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<401b3447$0$32587$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
> Well I was just thinking that the WAP54G supposedly has the same kind of
> radio setup as the WRT54G. Since the WRT54G as a stock unit both sends
> and receives through both antennas simultaneously, I thought it might
> work. Maybe <G>
>
> I was thinking that if you had two workstations right next to the WAP
> with one say working off the right antenna because of proximity and the
> other working off the opposite antenna and then both pcs talking to the
> router through the WAP, it seems like it should work. (Like my nice
> run-on sentence structure? <G>) So the only lose end would be whether or
> not the 3rd pc could be plugged in the ethernet port in the WAP and
> access the same data as the others? The user guide is somewhat ambiguous
> about this and I think the Linksys support team has died. The online
> support chat representative told me that I should try and use the WAP as
> it was recommended in the documentation that came with the thing. Then I
> was told to have a nice day and he hung up. I subsequently fainted, much
> like a goat would do.
>
> dep_blueman wrote:
>
> >I understand and in general it seems like it MIGHT work but it is not
> >the way the AP was designed to work. I just don't know.
> >
> >That is why I suggested the 2 bridge solution as I know that would
> >work. I should have said that in my orgional post.
> >
> >-D
> >
> >Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<40196de7$0$32587$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
> >
> >
> >>dep_blueman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>If I understand you want to create a two antenna bridge between your
> >>>most distant building and your wireless router via an intermediate
> >>>building.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I am asking if a WAP54G wireless access point will work for that
> >>configuration. If that access point in the middle building can have one
> >>panel antenna pointed towards the Omni from the DHCP router and the same
> >>middle building AP second panel antenna pointed towards the 3rd end
> >>building. Then in addition to that, could the ethernet pot on the same
> >>middle building access point be connected to a wired pc? Would the
> >>actual poorly drawn schematic work as listed below? If not, is there
> >>another comparably priced G AP that would work? Or am I missing
> >>something?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4018c0d7$0$32589$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> (Wired PC Enet Port to AP)
> >>>>Building Omni---> <---Panel Middle building AP Panel---> <--- Building Panel
> >>>> Sea Level 400'Dist.+200'Elv. 400'+200' Elv.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>

What an excellent idea!

Literally while waiting for an answer, Linksys comes up with a new
firmware upgrade that allows repeater mode for the WAP54G. On DSL
reports it looks like some people are trying it with some luck too.
(Especially after finding they need to do a hard boot with the router.)

I'll post the link in a main message for folk. I'm sure this may have
already been done, but what a great feature to have working for Linksys
owners!

Thanks for you and everyone's input here.

dep_blueman wrote:

>I am with you; it seems like it should work. In fact, if I were you I
>would get an AP and all the other equiptment and test it out. If it
>does not work then you can just return the AP and get two bridges and
>reuse all the other hardware.
>
>I would be interested to know what happens. Good luck!
>
>-D
>
>Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<401b3447$0$32587$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
>
>
>>Well I was just thinking that the WAP54G supposedly has the same kind of
>>radio setup as the WRT54G. Since the WRT54G as a stock unit both sends
>>and receives through both antennas simultaneously, I thought it might
>>work. Maybe <G>
>>
>>I was thinking that if you had two workstations right next to the WAP
>>with one say working off the right antenna because of proximity and the
>>other working off the opposite antenna and then both pcs talking to the
>>router through the WAP, it seems like it should work. (Like my nice
>>run-on sentence structure? <G>) So the only lose end would be whether or
>>not the 3rd pc could be plugged in the ethernet port in the WAP and
>>access the same data as the others? The user guide is somewhat ambiguous
>>about this and I think the Linksys support team has died. The online
>>support chat representative told me that I should try and use the WAP as
>>it was recommended in the documentation that came with the thing. Then I
>>was told to have a nice day and he hung up. I subsequently fainted, much
>>like a goat would do.
>>
>>dep_blueman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I understand and in general it seems like it MIGHT work but it is not
>>>the way the AP was designed to work. I just don't know.
>>>
>>>That is why I suggested the 2 bridge solution as I know that would
>>>work. I should have said that in my orgional post.
>>>
>>>-D
>>>
>>>Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<40196de7$0$32587$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>dep_blueman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If I understand you want to create a two antenna bridge between your
>>>>>most distant building and your wireless router via an intermediate
>>>>>building.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I am asking if a WAP54G wireless access point will work for that
>>>>configuration. If that access point in the middle building can have one
>>>>panel antenna pointed towards the Omni from the DHCP router and the same
>>>>middle building AP second panel antenna pointed towards the 3rd end
>>>>building. Then in addition to that, could the ethernet pot on the same
>>>>middle building access point be connected to a wired pc? Would the
>>>>actual poorly drawn schematic work as listed below? If not, is there
>>>>another comparably priced G AP that would work? Or am I missing
>>>>something?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Excalibur <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<4018c0d7$0$32589$(E-Mail Removed) om>...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> (Wired PC Enet Port to AP)
>>>>>>Building Omni---> <---Panel Middle building AP Panel---> <--- Building Panel
>>>>>> Sea Level 400'Dist.+200'Elv. 400'+200' Elv.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>