Linking Two Houses

Hi there,

Before I ask my question take into account I only have a preliminary
understanding of networking and have virtually no idea about wireless
networking so don't go over my head.

Here is my question. I want to share my internet connection with my
mother who lives about 100-150 meters away. Line of site is not
obtainable. And my last point, I need to be able to do this as cheaply
as possible.

Any advice is appreciated.

"Strider" <email-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Here is my question. I want to share my internet connection with my
> mother who lives about 100-150 meters away. Line of site is not
> obtainable. And my last point, I need to be able to do this as cheaply
> as possible.

You can:

1. Use a modem at each end, and enable Internet Connection Sharing. It ties
up the phone line, but modems are cheap.
2. Try to "dogleg" from your house to a midpoint, and then to your mother's
house. You'll need a cooperative neighbor, and three antennas.
3. Run a wire along the fences, and put in line drivers.

HTH.

Bill

Strider <email-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Here is my question. I want to share my internet connection with my
> mother who lives about 100-150 meters away. Line of site is not
> obtainable. And my last point, I need to be able to do this as cheaply
> as possible.

If LOS is not possible... Wireless most likely is not either. Can you place
a tower or mast on the house?

Can you run a cable from your house to her house? If so, you could run your
own DSL line to the house, then bridge the line into your network and
enable internet sharing on it. Blackbox.com and other network hardware
vendors sell DSL converters upto 8mbps.

Otherwise you're stuck with using 2 analog modems to connect the houses.
However, if you're using modems - you might as well get your mom her own
internet account.

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What is blocking the LOS? e.g. another house (how many, what
construction, etc), trees, earth, etc.

-D

Strider <email-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Hi there,
>
> Before I ask my question take into account I only have a preliminary
> understanding of networking and have virtually no idea about wireless
> networking so don't go over my head.
>
> Here is my question. I want to share my internet connection with my
> mother who lives about 100-150 meters away. Line of site is not
> obtainable. And my last point, I need to be able to do this as cheaply
> as possible.
>
> Any advice is appreciated.

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:55:32 GMT, Strider
<email-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Before I ask my question take into account I only have a preliminary
>understanding of networking and have virtually no idea about wireless
>networking so don't go over my head.

Homework:
http://www.practicallynetworked.com
http://www.tomsnetworking.com
Lots of FAQ's and white papers.

>Here is my question. I want to share my internet connection with my
>mother who lives about 100-150 meters away. Line of site is not
>obtainable. And my last point, I need to be able to do this as cheaply
>as possible.

Two methods that have nothing to do with wireless.

1. Just run CAT5 cable. Make sure you have a switched port at each
end and not a hub. That means buy a pair of 4 port ethernet switches.
The 10baseT specification allows for 100meters maximum cable run.
Going over slightly is not fatal, but you will have problems trying to
run 100baseT (100mbits/sec). Most switches do NOT have a means of
forceing 10mbit/sec operation, so you'll have to install a 10baseT hub
or switch at one end.

2. Try RG-58A/U coax cable running 10base2 ethernet (cheapernet).
I've gone about 950ft using coax cable without difficulty.

Buy two 10baseT (10mbit/sec only) hubs that have a 10base2 (BNC)
connector. Connect one at each end. You're done.

You can also use 10base2 to 10baseT media converters or a coax balun
made for the purpose. Two of these baluns:
http://www.multilet.com/us/baseband/...duct_range.htm
should work. I prefer the hubs or media converters, but the baluns
are cheaper.

If you can't find RG-58A/U, try 75ohm RG-6/u cable TV coax. (Do NOT
use RG-59/u). You'll need some F to BNC adapters. Don't worry about
the mismatched impedances.


--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

William Warren proclaimed...

> You can:
>
> 1. Use a modem at each end, and enable Internet Connection Sharing. It ties
> up the phone line, but modems are cheap.

Thanks. The idea however was for her to share my always on 1.5mbit
connection though.

> 2. Try to "dogleg" from your house to a midpoint, and then to your mother's
> house. You'll need a cooperative neighbor, and three antennas.

In Howdon. I don't think so...

> 3. Run a wire along the fences, and put in line drivers.

Not practical. Thanks for trying.

Lucas Tam proclaimed...

> If LOS is not possible... Wireless most likely is not either. Can you place
> a tower or mast on the house?
>
> Can you run a cable from your house to her house? If so, you could run your
> own DSL line to the house, then bridge the line into your network and
> enable internet sharing on it. Blackbox.com and other network hardware
> vendors sell DSL converters upto 8mbps.
>
> Otherwise you're stuck with using 2 analog modems to connect the houses.
> However, if you're using modems - you might as well get your mom her own
> internet account.

She has already, I just figured she might as well share mine since she
only browses and reads email.

Thanks

dep_blueman proclaimed...

> What is blocking the LOS? e.g. another house (how many, what
> construction, etc), trees, earth, etc.

A three story flat. Nothing else really.

Jeff Liebermann proclaimed...

> Homework:
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com
> http://www.tomsnetworking.com
> Lots of FAQ's and white papers.

Thanks, I'll give them a read

<snip>

Running a cable is not an option.

Thank you all for your posts. I'm very grateful.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Strider <email-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
:dep_blueman proclaimed...

:> What is blocking the LOS? e.g. another house (how many, what
:> construction, etc), trees, earth, etc.

:A three story flat. Nothing else really.

If you asked nicely (and especially if you offered some $$), the owner
of the flat might be willing to let you put a reflector on top of the
flat. It'd be like bouncing the signal off a mirror -- works fine if
you can get the right angles.

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I predict that you will not trust this prediction.