Latest Google privacy violation

Not only did they sniff your wifi, they sniffed all the devices on
your network. But they don't sniff wifi from the street view cars
anymore. Nope, they use Android phones to do their wifi sniffing.

Do No Evil....I guess that is just an expression.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20...of-phones-pcs/

I wonder if we should all spoof our MACs?

"(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:849a65bc-7354-4601-8752-(E-Mail Removed):

> Not only did they sniff your wifi, they sniffed all the devices on
> your network. But they don't sniff wifi from the street view cars
> anymore. Nope, they use Android phones to do their wifi sniffing.
>
> Do No Evil....I guess that is just an expression.
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20...w-cars-grabbed
> -locations-of-phones-pcs/
>
> I wonder if we should all spoof our MACs?
>

Prediction: When the U.S. Gov collapses companies like Google will adopt
facist policies and start trying to run the Cuntry (sic). That is when
you will see how evil they really are.

"asdklfjads" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:201107291900.UTC.j0v000$t0r$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:849a65bc-7354-4601-8752-(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> Not only did they sniff your wifi, they sniffed all the devices on
>> your network. But they don't sniff wifi from the street view cars
>> anymore. Nope, they use Android phones to do their wifi sniffing.
>>
>> Do No Evil....I guess that is just an expression.
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20...w-cars-grabbed
>> -locations-of-phones-pcs/
>>
>> I wonder if we should all spoof our MACs?
>>
>
> Prediction: When the U.S. Gov collapses companies like Google will adopt
> facist policies and start trying to run the Cuntry (sic). That is when
> you will see how evil they really are.

http://tinyurl.com/44gksm7

Quote:
Perhaps the U.S. government should start selling iPhones.


As the endless negotiations over raising the debt ceiling stalled yet again,
it

emerged the U.S. Treasury officially has less cash than Apple.

While Uncle Sam's cash reserves fell to $74billion this week, the

technology empire headed by Steve Jobs has a balance of $76billion.

On 7/30/2011 1:21 PM, Desireless wrote:
> "asdklfjads"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:201107291900.UTC.j0v000$t0r$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "(E-Mail Removed)"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:849a65bc-7354-4601-8752-(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>> Not only did they sniff your wifi, they sniffed all the devices on
>>> your network. But they don't sniff wifi from the street view cars
>>> anymore. Nope, they use Android phones to do their wifi sniffing.
>>>
>>> Do No Evil....I guess that is just an expression.
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20...w-cars-grabbed
>>> -locations-of-phones-pcs/
>>>
>>> I wonder if we should all spoof our MACs?
>>>
>>
>> Prediction: When the U.S. Gov collapses companies like Google will adopt
>> facist policies and start trying to run the Cuntry (sic). That is when
>> you will see how evil they really are.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/44gksm7
>
> Quote:
> Perhaps the U.S. government should start selling iPhones.
>
>
> As the endless negotiations over raising the debt ceiling stalled yet again,
> it
>
> emerged the U.S. Treasury officially has less cash than Apple.
>
> While Uncle Sam's cash reserves fell to $74billion this week, the
>
> technology empire headed by Steve Jobs has a balance of $76billion.


Apple is launching iMerica next week...

On 7/28/2011 00:31, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I wonder if we should all spoof our MACs?

I'd like to, but the paternalistic suits at Intel decided I don't "need"
to. I learned of this when I wanted to change the MAC address on the
Intel Centrino N 130 adapter in my recently-purchased laptop.

So far I can't even change the MAC under Ubuntu, but I may just be doing
it wrong.

Objekt

Objekt <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> So far I can't even change the MAC under Ubuntu, but I may just be
> doing it wrong.

This approach works for me on my Debian system (I use it to match my
wireless card's MAC to that of the wired MAC, so that either interface
can receive the same sticky IP address from the corporate DHCP server):

ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:12:34:56:78:9a

I can change the MAC address on both the wired and wireless adapters,
so if you're using the same sort of approach then it suggests to me that
it's the card refusing to accept the change request.

lspci | egrep -i 'ethernet|network'
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)

Chris

On 8/19/2011 01:28, Chris Davies wrote:
> Objekt<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> So far I can't even change the MAC under Ubuntu, but I may just be
>> doing it wrong.
>
> This approach works for me on my Debian system (I use it to match my
> wireless card's MAC to that of the wired MAC, so that either interface
> can receive the same sticky IP address from the corporate DHCP server):
>
> ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:12:34:56:78:9a
>
> I can change the MAC address on both the wired and wireless adapters,
> so if you're using the same sort of approach then it suggests to me that
> it's the card refusing to accept the change request.
>
> lspci | egrep -i 'ethernet|network'
> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
>
> Chris

Thanks, I'll have to give that a try.

I have a netbook with an Atheros wireless NIC that does offer MAC
address changing, in the Windows XP drivers. The problem is, it doesn't
work. The adapter will only connect to my router (Netgear WNR3500v2)
with its original MAC address.

That is likely due to buggy drivers/incompetence at Atheros. Intel's
overt feature-removal - and spinning it as a "security feature" - comes
off as authoritarianism.

If this turns out to be one of those things that can't be worked around,
is there another wireless NIC I could buy that does allow MAC address
changes?

I could live with a slower data rate; it doesn't have to be N-wireless.
For breaking into my router to "steal" Internet access (the primary
security scenario I want to test), even 54 Mbit is more than fast enough.

Objekt

On 8/20/2011 8:37 AM, Objekt wrote:
> On 8/19/2011 01:28, Chris Davies wrote:
>> Objekt<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> So far I can't even change the MAC under Ubuntu, but I may just be
>>> doing it wrong.
>>
>> This approach works for me on my Debian system (I use it to match my
>> wireless card's MAC to that of the wired MAC, so that either interface
>> can receive the same sticky IP address from the corporate DHCP server):
>>
>> ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:12:34:56:78:9a
>>
>> I can change the MAC address on both the wired and wireless adapters,
>> so if you're using the same sort of approach then it suggests to me that
>> it's the card refusing to accept the change request.
>>
>> lspci | egrep -i 'ethernet|network'
>> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752
>> Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
>> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
>> [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
>>
>> Chris
>
> Thanks, I'll have to give that a try.
>
> I have a netbook with an Atheros wireless NIC that does offer MAC
> address changing, in the Windows XP drivers. The problem is, it doesn't
> work. The adapter will only connect to my router (Netgear WNR3500v2)
> with its original MAC address.
>
> That is likely due to buggy drivers/incompetence at Atheros. Intel's
> overt feature-removal - and spinning it as a "security feature" - comes
> off as authoritarianism.
>
> If this turns out to be one of those things that can't be worked around,
> is there another wireless NIC I could buy that does allow MAC address
> changes?
>
> I could live with a slower data rate; it doesn't have to be N-wireless.
> For breaking into my router to "steal" Internet access (the primary
> security scenario I want to test), even 54 Mbit is more than fast enough.
>
> Objekt

This may not help, but should not hurt. Try to power cycle both the PC
and the Router after you change the interface MAC address. It's
possible the two of them are arguing over the change.

I an old router, long gone and model forgotten, that kept track of the
PC name and MAC address and if they did not match what it had in it's
memory it would refuse a new connection. A power reset or reboot would
clear out the cached values in the router allowing the changed MAC to work.

Hopefully your router has not been configured to block all new MAC
address values in it's firewall settings as that may block your changed
MAC value as well.

News <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Apple is launching iMerica next week...

Nope. No money in it.