BE latency issue

Certainly having a detrimental effect on my connection.
http://ssv.netfirms.com/be.jpg
Look how the ping gradually rises from 1745 - 1815 (the white spaces have no significance)
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Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.broadband Job Justification Hearings, Graham.
chose the tried and tested strategy of:

> Certainly having a detrimental effect on my connection.
> http://ssv.netfirms.com/be.jpg
> Look how the ping gradually rises from 1745 - 1815 (the white spaces have
> no significance)

Smokeping graphs yesterday show exactly the same pattern as you saw on pings
to internet hosts. Pings to Be's DNS and mail hosts show no such pattern, so
I can only conclude Be were having internet connectivity issues.

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DIMENSION-CONTROLLING FORT DOH HAS NOW BEEN DEMOLISHED,
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"bod43" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:cbf57798-dc49-4031-877d-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 28 Jan, 22:27, "Graham." <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Certainly having a detrimental effect on my connection.http://ssv.netfirms.com/be.jpg
>> Look how the ping gradually rises from 1745 - 1815 (the white spaces have no significance)
>
> Your "normal" latency seems very good indeed for ADSL.
>
> Typically high latency is caused by queuing in a router
> in the path. Queuing in turn, is the result of an oversubscribed
> output interface.
>
> Best idea is to look at a traceroute (windows tracert)
> and see if that indicates where the problem lies.
>
> If the problem is in your immediately connected link
> the perhaps you have malicious code in your system?
>
> I see -
>
> C:\Users\bod>tracert www.bbc.co.uk
>
> Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.197]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 1 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 10.81.3.129
> 2 168 ms 42 ms 159 ms host-92-1-64-1.as43234.net [92.1.64.1]
> 3 39 ms 43 ms 48 ms 92.31.250.38
> 4 41 ms 43 ms 47 ms xe-9-3-0-scr001.log.as13285.net
> [78.144.2.133]
> 5 49 ms 42 ms 44 ms xe-9-0-0-scr001.loh.as13285.net
> [78.144.0.250]
> 6 43 ms 43 ms 78 ms xe-11-0-0-scr010.sov.as13285.net
> [78.144.0.226]
> 7 49 ms 42 ms 44 ms bbc-pp-sov.as13285.net [78.144.5.1]
> 8 53 ms 42 ms 43 ms 212.58.238.133
> 9 48 ms 43 ms 43 ms 212.58.239.58
> 10 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms www-nonuk-vip.telhc.bbc.co.uk
> [212.58.251.197]
>
> My DSL link on its own has a round trip latency of 42ms.
> This is typical due to the signalling methods used on DSL.
> It only takes 1ms more to get to the bbc.
>
> Plese post the output of your traceroute.

Sorry I saw your post too late. Here is the f8lure graphic of the entire event

http://ssv.netfirms.com/ping.jpg

I have had f8lure pinging my router all week (for no real reason) I saw this
interesting blip, and also by chance saw a post by an admin in uk.net.providers.aaisp.
Not sure why A&A are concerned with BE issues, I suppose they provide IP telephony
over other ISP connections.
Anyway, I thought it might be useful to them to see my graph, and thought it might
be of interest here.

When I said the latency is having a detrimental effect in my connection, I just meant
It stuck out like a sore thumb on the graphic. I didn't notice the increase to ~82ms with
VoIP etc. I suppose many would consider that a good baseline figure.


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In article <hjvoc2$17f$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Graham." wrote:

>
> I have had f8lure pinging my router all week (for no real reason) I saw this
> interesting blip, and also by chance saw a post by an admin in uk.net.providers.aaisp.
> Not sure why A&A are concerned with BE issues, I suppose they provide IP telephony
> over other ISP connections.

Not just IP telephony. A&A now provide the basic broadband connection
using either BT wholesale or Be services. The Be traffic costs are
lower than those over BT services, but the installation charge is
greater, AFAICR, since I don't have the necessary LLU options.

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>>
>> I have had f8lure pinging my router all week (for no real reason) I saw this
>> interesting blip, and also by chance saw a post by an admin in uk.net.providers.aaisp.
>> Not sure why A&A are concerned with BE issues, I suppose they provide IP telephony
>> over other ISP connections.
>
> Not just IP telephony. A&A now provide the basic broadband connection
> using either BT wholesale or Be services. The Be traffic costs are
> lower than those over BT services, but the installation charge is
> greater, AFAICR, since I don't have the necessary LLU options.

Thanks for that, I had no idea.

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Graham.

%Profound_observation%

BE lost some of their backhaul links, therefore capacity was reduced causing
increased latency
Don't know the cause, but likely an issue with a 3rd party supplier

As already stated, A&A provide a BE wholesale service - started some time
last year. A bit pricey though compared to BE and very pricey compared to
O2, however it's aimed I believe more at business customers.

Nicola