kppp permissions?? and route.

Hi,
have a Q about kppp and route.

Number one: is there a way I can execute:
route del default
route add default gw XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
without having to manually log in as root??

Number two: Using kppp I can connect to my isp as any user YET I can only
then browse and ping as root. I s there a file I need to change the
permission on? (If it helps I run kppp via group access)

cheers

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:01:40 +1000, Iamyou <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hi,
> have a Q about kppp and route.
>
> Number one: is there a way I can execute:
> route del default
> route add default gw XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
> without having to manually log in as root??

You could use replacedefaultroute option in /etc/ppp/options. Or you
could do anything as root from /etc/ppp/ip-up (or ip-up.local) which runs
as root. But use full paths, because enviroment is minimal.

But why do you have some other default route? A default route should
typically only lead to the internet (other routes should be host or net
routes). Or is this an alternate if your broadband connection is not
responding?

> Number two: Using kppp I can connect to my isp as any user YET I can only
> then browse and ping as root. I s there a file I need to change the
> permission on? (If it helps I run kppp via group access)

Normally a network connection (including ppp0) does not distiguish users,
just IPs. What error do you get when you try to ping and what error do
you get in the browser when you enter a URL?

Did you ever use 'su' without the '-' switch? Without '-' switch, some
files in your home dir (possibly related to browser) may have wrong
ownership (especially if browser does not start).

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| Hi,
| have a Q about kppp and route.
|
| Number one: is there a way I can execute:
| route del default
| route add default gw XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
| without having to manually log in as root??

man sudo

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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:01:40 +1000,
Iamyou <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hi,
> have a Q about kppp and route.
>
> Number one: is there a way I can execute:
> route del default
> route add default gw XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
> without having to manually log in as root??
>

Assuming that you're using Debian based on your email, Look in the
directory /etc/ppp/ip-up.d you'll find a number of scripts, you can add
you own script there, they are run in alphabetical(asc?) order which is
why some have numbers in them (to force a particular order.). Make sure
you set the permissions correctly.

If you're using another distro, RH and MDK both have /etc/ppp/if-up
and/or /etc/ppp/if-up.local to which you can add the lines, or call your
own script.


> Number two: Using kppp I can connect to my isp as any user YET I can only
> then browse and ping as root. I s there a file I need to change the
> permission on? (If it helps I run kppp via group access)
>
> cheers
>

Connect as a user, try an

ls -l /etc/resolv.conf, and if that doesn't issue an error, check the
permissions, cat the file. Try host redhat.com, see if it resolves, if
not try it as root to confirm that the problem is definately local.

And when you reply mention distro and version, It seems like everyone
has their own method of dealing with this, and their own defaults.

HTH,

Michael C.
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David Efflandt wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:01:40 +1000, Iamyou <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> have a Q about kppp and route.
>>
>> Number one: is there a way I can execute:
>> route del default
>> route add default gw XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
>> without having to manually log in as root??
>
> You could use replacedefaultroute option in /etc/ppp/options. Or you
> could do anything as root from /etc/ppp/ip-up (or ip-up.local) which runs
> as root. But use full paths, because enviroment is minimal.

adding to /etc/ppp/ip-up worked like a charm
>
> But why do you have some other default route? A default route should
> typically only lead to the internet (other routes should be host or net
> routes). Or is this an alternate if your broadband connection is not
> responding?

I have no idea. ppp defaulted the default route to point to my network
card (that I as yet don't use) upon installation.

>> Number two: Using kppp I can connect to my isp as any user YET I can only
>> then browse and ping as root. I s there a file I need to change the
>> permission on? (If it helps I run kppp via group access)
>
> Normally a network connection (including ppp0) does not distiguish users,
> just IPs. What error do you get when you try to ping and what error do
> you get in the browser when you enter a URL?
>

host not found.

> Did you ever use 'su' without the '-' switch? Without '-' switch, some
> files in your home dir (possibly related to browser) may have wrong
> ownership (especially if browser does not start).
>

I have not used su. I just changed the owner group of /usr/bin/kppp and
/usr/bin/kppplogview from root to dialup.

Michael C. wrote:
> And when you reply mention distro and version, It seems like everyone
> has their own method of dealing with this, and their own defaults.

Debian Woody r1 powerpc.

Thanks for your help (both).