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BBC is biased towards DAB
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      02-03-2009, 11:31 PM
http://tinyurl.com/c4uywl

It'll apparently be available nationwide in 2012, the same year that
we're aiming to have a minimum of 2 Mbps. Backward Broadband Britain.


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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
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http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm


 
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      02-04-2009, 07:13 AM
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/c4uywl
>
> It'll apparently be available nationwide in 2012, the same year that
> we're aiming to have a minimum of 2 Mbps. Backward Broadband Britain.


The 2Mbps thing is utterly pathetic. By 2012 HD streaming will be
commonplace and 2MBps just won't be fast enough. On the bright side, it's
faster than what I can get now so maybe I'll be first in line should someone
see sense and start putting fibre in. :-)

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James Egan
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      02-04-2009, 01:31 PM

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:13:25 -0000, "WCZ" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>The 2Mbps thing is utterly pathetic. By 2012 HD streaming will be
>commonplace and 2MBps just won't be fast enough. On the bright side, it's
>faster than what I can get now so maybe I'll be first in line should someone
>see sense and start putting fibre in. :-)


On current trends that's cloud cuckoo land. Unfortunately.


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      02-04-2009, 01:31 PM
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:26:26 GMT, Ato_Zee wrote:

>> The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
>> decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:

>
> But I expect some consultants made a packet out
> of recommending its adoption.


and will make another fortune in a few years' time doing the same thing
again!
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      02-04-2009, 01:53 PM
James Egan wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:13:25 -0000, "WCZ" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>> The 2Mbps thing is utterly pathetic. By 2012 HD streaming will be
>> commonplace and 2MBps just won't be fast enough. On the bright side, it's
>> faster than what I can get now so maybe I'll be first in line should someone
>> see sense and start putting fibre in. :-)

>
> On current trends that's cloud cuckoo land. Unfortunately.
>
>
> Jim.
>

Its available right now.

If you are prepared to pay for it.

The problem is, no one is, either directly or in their taxes.
 
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      02-04-2009, 02:49 PM
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> James Egan wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:13:25 -0000, "WCZ" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The 2Mbps thing is utterly pathetic. By 2012 HD streaming will be
>>> commonplace and 2MBps just won't be fast enough. On the bright
>>> side, it's faster than what I can get now so maybe I'll be first in
>>> line should someone see sense and start putting fibre in. :-)

>>
>> On current trends that's cloud cuckoo land. Unfortunately.
>>
>>
>> Jim.
>>

> Its available right now.
>
> If you are prepared to pay for it.
>
> The problem is, no one is, either directly or in their taxes.


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Whats the expected cost? I can't
remember now whether it was millions or billions. Over the expected
lifetime of fibre and distributed over the current broadband user base it
can't work out to be more than a few quid a month.

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      02-04-2009, 03:10 PM

"WCZ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I wouldn't be so sure about that. Whats the expected cost? I can't
> remember now whether it was millions or billions. Over the expected
> lifetime of fibre and distributed over the current broadband user base it
> can't work out to be more than a few quid a month.
>
> --







i think he meant that, if you approach the right company now, and pay the
going rate, you can have it next week - but the price will probably make you
run a mile.



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      02-04-2009, 05:29 PM
In uk.telecom.broadband, on Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:31:24, James Egan wrote:

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>On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:13:25 -0000, "WCZ" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>The 2Mbps thing is utterly pathetic. By 2012 HD streaming will be
>>commonplace and 2MBps just won't be fast enough. On the bright side, it's
>>faster than what I can get now so maybe I'll be first in line should someone
>>see sense and start putting fibre in. :-)

>
>On current trends that's cloud cuckoo land. Unfortunately.


Available in April (probably):
http://aaisp.net.uk/news-2009-01-ethernet.html

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January 2009 we are considering launching new Ethernet services,
probably from April 2009. This page explains a bit about the proposed
services. Please note that we are not taking orders at this stage.

Who is it aimed at
These services are high speed, high reliability, and high quality
internet connection aimed at business users. They are aimed at business
customers wanting speeds of 10Mb/s or faster. They are not cheap by
comparison with ADSL services.

What services
The service is an Ethernet connection provided to your premises. Over
this you have access to internet and/or other offices.


There are two key parts to the service, access and back-haul. The access
part is the connection to you and will typically be a 100Mb/s or 1Gb/s
link. The back-haul is an un-contended committed bandwidth you have
available to us, and/or to another office on the same service. You can
have both, using VLANs to decide where the traffic goes. The link to us
then goes out on to the internet from our data centre. The access can
have redundant links to provide even higher reliability. The back-haul
can be provided in steps, typically starting at 10Mb/s.
--------------


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BBC is biased towards DAB
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      02-04-2009, 07:02 PM
"Ato_Zee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
>> decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:

>
> But I expect some consultants made a packet out
> of recommending its adoption.



Probably. But the BBC deserves the vast majority of the blame for it,
IMO. The commercial radio groups don't know much about mobile digital
comms technology, but the BBC has its own R&D department, and the R&D
engineers were advising the executives about the availability of AAC
(if you've heard of DAB+, basically they could have designed something
almost as good as DAB+ in the mid to late 1990s), but the BBC execs
thought they knew better and ignored them, and here we are.

One thing a lot of people probably don't realise is that the people
who make the decisions about technologies at teh BBC don't have any
background in engineering or anything tech related. For example, the
current BBC Controller in charge of digital radio is an ex-management
consultant, and the Head of Distribution Technologies for digital
radio (you really would expect him to be an engineer) studied
psychology at uni and knows jackshit about engineering.

In the recent planning for digitla radio, on a presentation slide the
BBC Controller in charge of digital radio even suggested that Wi-Fi
was a possible alternative digital platform for radio - i.e. one that
could cover the entire country and provide 99% population coverage.
Wi-Fi is obviously a short range wireless technology, so it would cost
literally billions per annum to cover the UK with Wi-Fi - most of the
base stations would be transmitting to sheep and cows only until the
occasional car goes past.



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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm


 
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      02-05-2009, 06:09 AM
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/c4uywl
>
> It'll apparently be available nationwide in 2012, the same year that
> we're aiming to have a minimum of 2 Mbps. Backward Broadband Britain.


There is at least one isp in the process of rolling 1gbs ftth here in
Denmark. In many places it is already possible to get 100mbs. Lattelecom
in Latvia is working on 500mbs (with what looks like GPON).
 
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