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mikeleblanc19@gmail.com
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      04-29-2007, 02:37 PM
I have a DSL connection with a Linksys WRTG54G router (with the latest
firmware). I keep getting disconnected, most of the time I have to
power cycle the router and then it works fine. I've tried diffrent
channels, contacted Linksys support, they can't help me, keep telling
me my router is a deffective one, which is the 2nd one I've gone
through so I don't think thats the case. I've tried a 10.0.0.x ip
address, still the same. Set up the router to keep alive 30 sec.

I had the router upstairs, moved it downstairs, same problem.
Personnaly I don't think it's a wireless issue as well because I lose
connection on the wired computer. I had a D-link router, had
connection problems, tried it at my gf's house, no problems there
(also has a DSL connection with same settings that I had). My friend
has the same problem as I have, except he has a cable connection.

When I connect dirrectly to the computer I don't have a problem, so
that leaves my ISP out of the question. Am I really that unlucky that
I've had 2 defective routers? I use WPA personal security could that
be the issue??

Let me know what you guys think.


Mike

 
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John Navas
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      04-29-2007, 04:07 PM
On 29 Apr 2007 07:37:35 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote in
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>I have a DSL connection with a Linksys WRTG54G router (with the latest
>firmware). I keep getting disconnected, most of the time I have to
>power cycle the router and then it works fine.


What does "disconnected" mean EXACTLY? If your DSL going down? Is the
router locking up? What does the wireless icon show in the System Tray?

>I had the router upstairs, moved it downstairs, same problem.
>Personnaly I don't think it's a wireless issue as well because I lose
>connection on the wired computer.


Again, what does "lose the connection" mean EXACTLY? Does the icon show
cable disconnected? Is the router locking up?

>I had a D-link router, had
>connection problems, tried it at my gf's house, no problems there
>(also has a DSL connection with same settings that I had). My friend
>has the same problem as I have, except he has a cable connection.
>
>When I connect dirrectly to the computer I don't have a problem, so
>that leaves my ISP out of the question. Am I really that unlucky that
>I've had 2 defective routers?


Probably not.

>I use WPA personal security could that
>be the issue??


Probably not.

I take a wild guess that you're running peer-to-peer filesharing, which
is opening up so many connections that your router is falling over. If
so, severely restrict the number of connections, install and properly
configure DD-WRT firmware, or get a better router.

See wikis below for lots of useful info.

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mikeleblanc19@gmail.com
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      04-29-2007, 05:00 PM
Thanks for the reply, to answer your questions, when I get
disconnected, my wireless icon becomes an "X" and when I try to
reconnect it comes up with limited or no connectivity. My DSL
connection is still active because I only have to powercycle the
router, not the DSL modem, so the DSL connection is not being dropped.
Could be the router that's freezing up I don't know that.

For P2P file sharing, thats not the case, I simply hate and don't use
that... And when I'm online it's usually to browse, e-mail, msn
messenger, streaming radio.


Mike

 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      04-29-2007, 05:32 PM
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>I have a DSL connection with a Linksys WRTG54G router (with the latest
>firmware).


What hardware version of the WRT54G? The v5 and v6 models seem to
have a tendency to hang.

What are you using for a wireless client computer and adapter?
Changing the router isn't going to help if the client computer is the
problem.

>I keep getting disconnected, most of the time I have to
>power cycle the router and then it works fine. I've tried diffrent
>channels, contacted Linksys support, they can't help me, keep telling
>me my router is a deffective one, which is the 2nd one I've gone
>through so I don't think thats the case.


Did they replace it with the exact same hardware version?

>I've tried a 10.0.0.x ip
>address, still the same. Set up the router to keep alive 30 sec.


The keep alive is for the WAN port, not the LAN.

>I had the router upstairs, moved it downstairs, same problem.
>Personnaly I don't think it's a wireless issue as well because I lose
>connection on the wired computer. I had a D-link router, had
>connection problems, tried it at my gf's house, no problems there
>(also has a DSL connection with same settings that I had). My friend
>has the same problem as I have, except he has a cable connection.


I'm lost. Could you re-write this description? Please include what
model D-Link router and what you used for client computers for
testing. Does your friend with the "same" problem also a different
client computer, or the same one that you're using for testing?

>When I connect dirrectly to the computer I don't have a problem, so
>that leaves my ISP out of the question.


Connect directly how? I assume you mean directly via ethernet between
the computer and the DSL modem.

>Am I really that unlucky that
>I've had 2 defective routers?


It's unlikely that two routers would be defective unless the entire
series of routers was defective. That might be the problem. See:
<http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/26843/51/>
Note that this also applies to the V6 but not the V7 models.

The V5 and V6 versions also can't handle much traffic or connections.
See table at:
http://smallnetbuilder.com/component...189/chart,124/
and select "Number of simultaneous connection". The v5 mutation can
only handle 8 simultaneous connections.

I've returned for credit or exchange all the v5 and v6 routers I've
blundered across, so I have minimal personal experience with these
losers.

>I use WPA personal security could that
>be the issue??


Maybe. If the key refresh time coincides with the disconnects, it
could be a WPA issue. It's on the Wireless Security Page:
<http://www.linksysdata.com/ui/WRT54G/v5/1.00.6/WSecurity.htm>
and defaults to 3600 seconds. Duz it disconnect every 60 minutes?

>Let me know what you guys think.


I think your description is rather disorganized but I get the idea. In
your followup, you disclosed that you're seeing a red "x" on the
connection in the system tray. That means you've lost the wireless
connection. That could be many things. Old firmware, old drivers on
the client, interference, weak signal, reflections, position of the
moon, etc. So, lets start with the easy ones and you get to fill in
the blanks.
1. Update router firmware.
2. Update client firmware and drivers.
3. Verify that you have decent signal to noise ratio.
4. Test in an interference free environment (i.e. a dungeon).
5. Sniff for interference with Kismet running on a Linux LiveCD. This
will show networks that don't broadcast their SSID.
6. etc (gotta run...)

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      04-30-2007, 07:15 PM
On 29 Apr 2007 10:00:50 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote in
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>Thanks for the reply, to answer your questions, when I get
>disconnected, my wireless icon becomes an "X" and when I try to
>reconnect it comes up with limited or no connectivity. My DSL
>connection is still active because I only have to powercycle the
>router, not the DSL modem, so the DSL connection is not being dropped.
>Could be the router that's freezing up I don't know that.


1. Check the status lights on the router.
2. Connect to the router by cable to see if the router is alive.

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