How to keep home network Private But still share Internet ?

Is there a way to keep my Wireless Router SMC 2804 open for internet
access, but keep my microsoft home network invisible to outsiders ? I have
file and print sharing enabled on all computers..

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:44:13 +0000, Ray wrote:

> Is there a way to keep my Wireless Router SMC 2804 open for internet
> access, but keep my microsoft home network invisible to outsiders ? I
> have file and print sharing enabled on all computers..

Activate WPA.

"johnny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > Is there a way to keep my Wireless Router SMC 2804 open for internet
> > access, but keep my microsoft home network invisible to outsiders ? I
> > have file and print sharing enabled on all computers..
>
> Activate WPA.

Uh no, that wouldn't leave the wireless open to being shared, assuming
that's what the original poster is interested in doing.

Yes, That is what I want to do...


"Bill Kearney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "johnny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Is there a way to keep my Wireless Router SMC 2804 open for internet
>> > access, but keep my microsoft home network invisible to outsiders ? I
>> > have file and print sharing enabled on all computers..
>>
>> Activate WPA.
>
> Uh no, that wouldn't leave the wireless open to being shared, assuming
> that's what the original poster is interested in doing.
>

"Ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Is there a way to keep my Wireless Router SMC 2804 open for internet
> access, but keep my microsoft home network invisible to outsiders ? I
> have file and print sharing enabled on all computers..

You want security on a wireless router protecting your machines that are
doing MS F&P?

The only hope you got is using a personal FW on each machine limiting
traffic on the Windows networking ports to specified static LAN IP(s)
between the machines. You block all traffic other LAN IP(s) on the router
that your machines would have, which would be static IP(s) on the router
your machines are using.

That may possibly save you in a wireless situation.

Duane

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:44:13 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , "Ray"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Is there a way to keep my Wireless Router SMC 2804 open for internet
>access, but keep my microsoft home network invisible to outsiders ? I have
>file and print sharing enabled on all computers..

Block all the MS print and file sharing ports on your router. This
will make them invisible to outsiders. Almost certainly this has
already been done automatically, but you can test using any website
which can run port scans.
Also set user-level security on all shares and printers, and ensure
that everyone is logging in to your home network with valid login IDs.
--
Mark McIntyre

My computers are invisible to a "Shields Up" port scan, but I can see the
network computers when I sign on with a wireless laptop (Which has the same
WorkGroup ID). Im wondering if a second wired router between the network
and the wireless router would help ?




"Ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Is there a way to keep my Wireless Router SMC 2804 open for internet
> access, but keep my microsoft home network invisible to outsiders ? I
> have file and print sharing enabled on all computers..
>

I just tried changing the workgroup name on the wireless laptop. Now I can
no longer see the local network..

So it seems that if the user group name is not public, then that user group
should be somewhat secure ??

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:32:38 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , "Ray"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>My computers are invisible to a "Shields Up" port scan, but I can see the
>network computers when I sign on with a wireless laptop (Which has the same
>WorkGroup ID).

Inevitably, since you have File/printer sharing enabled on your
network and any PC connecting to your wireless is inside your network.
As long as you have all your shares protected by user-level security,
its not an issue though.

>Im wondering if a second wired router between the network
>and the wireless router would help ?

You could do that, but double-NAT is a pain to set up.
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Mark McIntyre

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 17:53:29 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , "Ray"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I just tried changing the workgroup name on the wireless laptop. Now I can
>no longer see the local network..
>
>So it seems that if the user group name is not public, then that user group
>should be somewhat secure ??

No, anyone with a reasonable amount of skill could search for your
local workgroup name and find it fairly quickly.

Really, the answer is to put user-level security at the share level.
No share should be readable by the EVERYONE group, all shares should
have permissions only for known users inside your network.
--
Mark McIntyre