ISP demands mail-send= authenticated ?

Suddenly [without prior warning] my mail-sends fail
for lack of 'authentication' !

The ISP 'help-desk' tells me how to set-it-up under M$-outsp00k.
And fortunately when I bought my last IDE, I told them to put
windows on the first 1GB partition. So I was able to confirm that
with W98-outsp00k, set for 'send authenticate enabled', my
email gets-out.

Q - is mail-send authentication a common requirement these days ?
Being in 3rd-world S.Africa I'd expect this to occur only once it
becomes standard practice in 1st world. I suspect that I may be
'watched' by the authorities because I'm un-pee-cee.

My newest linux installation is FC1 and its emailer X..n..
has send-authentication setup capabilities.
But it's got several authentication-types to select from.
I selected "PLAIN", which is not 'good' and apparently
doesn't mean 'plain', but rather p.l.a.i.n. ?!

How the hell can I know what to select to 'follow' the
M$hit setting which works ?

== Chris Glur.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Suddenly [without prior warning] my mail-sends fail
> for lack of 'authentication' !
>
> The ISP 'help-desk' tells me how to set-it-up under M$-outsp00k.
> And fortunately when I bought my last IDE, I told them to put
> windows on the first 1GB partition. So I was able to confirm that
> with W98-outsp00k, set for 'send authenticate enabled', my
> email gets-out.
>
> Q - is mail-send authentication a common requirement these days ?
> Being in 3rd-world S.Africa I'd expect this to occur only once it
> becomes standard practice in 1st world. I suspect that I may be
> 'watched' by the authorities because I'm un-pee-cee.

Yes, it is common. It is to prevent others sending emails using your
facilities.

>
> My newest linux installation is FC1 and its emailer X..n..
> has send-authentication setup capabilities.
> But it's got several authentication-types to select from.
> I selected "PLAIN", which is not 'good' and apparently
> doesn't mean 'plain', but rather p.l.a.i.n. ?!

You probably need to send a user name (which is your full email name
e.g. (E-Mail Removed)) and password (which is probably the same as
your POP3/IMAP password). The normal authentication method is PLAIN.

If you want to read about it, RFC2554 tells you about SMTP
authentication generally and RFC2595 about PLAIN authentication.

If you have a problem, let us know what program you are setting up.

Robert

>
> How the hell can I know what to select to 'follow' the
> M$hit setting which works ?
>
> == Chris Glur.
>

(E-Mail Removed) writes:

> Suddenly [without prior warning] my mail-sends fail
> for lack of 'authentication' !
>
> The ISP 'help-desk' tells me how to set-it-up under M$-outsp00k.
> And fortunately when I bought my last IDE, I told them to put
> windows on the first 1GB partition. So I was able to confirm that
> with W98-outsp00k, set for 'send authenticate enabled', my
> email gets-out.
>
> Q - is mail-send authentication a common requirement these days ?

Yes.

> Being in 3rd-world S.Africa I'd expect this to occur only once it
> becomes standard practice in 1st world. I suspect that I may be
> 'watched' by the authorities because I'm un-pee-cee.
>
> My newest linux installation is FC1 and its emailer X..n..

Never heard of any email called "X..n.."



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> Q - is mail-send authentication a common requirement these days ?

Yes. Get used to it.

-Frank