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eas-lab@absamail.co.za
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      08-16-2003, 06:36 PM
I've observed this on several dial-up ISPs:
when the load is high (busy), which I can estimate, based on the weather,
time of day/week etc., there is a long delay between when the modem
starts negotiating and when the last stage of the ppp is acheived/accepted.
Some times my (non-linux) ppp implementation times out.

I think that when the server is busy and queing clients, there should be
'feed-back' to give the telco busy signal to clients. If not it's arrogant:
like letting people in to wait at the restaurant when you know there
won't be free tables for a long time.

Are there facilities to avoid clients paying the entry fee [no busy barring]
and yet not being able to get on the net ?

-- Chris Glur.

 
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Bill Unruh
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      08-16-2003, 10:14 PM
eas-(E-Mail Removed) writes:

]I've observed this on several dial-up ISPs:
]when the load is high (busy), which I can estimate, based on the weather,
]time of day/week etc., there is a long delay between when the modem
]starts negotiating and when the last stage of the ppp is acheived/accepted.
]Some times my (non-linux) ppp implementation times out.

]I think that when the server is busy and queing clients, there should be
]'feed-back' to give the telco busy signal to clients. If not it's arrogant:
]like letting people in to wait at the restaurant when you know there
]won't be free tables for a long time.

]Are there facilities to avoid clients paying the entry fee [no busy barring]
]and yet not being able to get on the net ?


Until you have logged in they do not know who you are, so it would be
hard to charge y ou.

Complain to your ISP.
(actually, the ISP should run out of phone lines befor their servers
bogged down).
 
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Bill Marcum
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      08-17-2003, 01:08 AM
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:14:06 +0000 (UTC), Bill Unruh
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> eas-(E-Mail Removed) writes:
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>
> Until you have logged in they do not know who you are, so it would be
> hard to charge y ou.
>
> Complain to your ISP.
> (actually, the ISP should run out of phone lines befor their servers
> bogged down).


The ISP may not know who you are, but the phone company does. It's my
understanding that in most places outside the U.S., people have to pay
per minute for local calls.


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