IPX protocol: WinXp<>Win98SE ?

Hi Group:

Hopefully somebody from this group may have a solution for my IPX protocol
problem.

The problem is that 2 PCs with WinXP and Win98SE are not able to communicate
by IPX.
(Need this protocol for some old, but nice LAN-Games)

TCP/IP, IPX, NetBIOS and NetBEUI are installed on both PCs and
Windows-Network and TCP/IP protocol are running well.
Both PC's have installed DirectX 9.0 for DirectPlay.

However:
---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC,but cannot connect.


PS: My WinXP firewall is deactivated and Zonealarm is shut down.

Any comment or hint is very welcome.

Thomas,
Germany

In article <3fd6158a$0$3426$(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi Group:
>
>Hopefully somebody from this group may have a solution for my IPX protocol
>problem.
>
>The problem is that 2 PCs with WinXP and Win98SE are not able to communicate
>by IPX.
>(Need this protocol for some old, but nice LAN-Games)
>
>TCP/IP, IPX, NetBIOS and NetBEUI are installed on both PCs and
>Windows-Network and TCP/IP protocol are running well.
>Both PC's have installed DirectX 9.0 for DirectPlay.
>
>However:
>---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
>---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC,but cannot connect.
>
>
>PS: My WinXP firewall is deactivated and Zonealarm is shut down.
>
>Any comment or hint is very welcome.
>
>Thomas,
>Germany

First, simplify the network setup by removing NetBEUI from both PCs.
Then, choose either TCP/IP or IPX for File and Printer Sharing and
un-bind sharing from the other one. I've written a web page with
details:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm

The IPX problems can probably be solved by making compatible settings
on both computers:

1. Enable NetBIOS over IPX.
2. Specify an explicit frame type, such as Ethernet 802.3.
3. Set the Network Addresses to the same value.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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Steve:

Thanks for your comments, but the result is still the same:
---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC, but cannot connect.

What I have done is:
- specified IPX frame type 802.3
- set IPX network adresses to 0 on both PCs
- removed NetBEUI
- removed IPX bindings for file sharing and network client and left TCP/IP
only
- enabled NetBIOS over IPX

What was not clear:
Win98 requires bindings for NetBIOS, so I left file sharing and network
client for NetBIOS.
I could not find any option to modify bindings for NetBIOS under WinXP.

Is there anything else what I could try?
Thomas


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <3fd6158a$0$3426$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Hi Group:
> >
> >Hopefully somebody from this group may have a solution for my IPX
protocol
> >problem.
> >
> >The problem is that 2 PCs with WinXP and Win98SE are not able to
communicate
> >by IPX.
> >(Need this protocol for some old, but nice LAN-Games)
> >
> >TCP/IP, IPX, NetBIOS and NetBEUI are installed on both PCs and
> >Windows-Network and TCP/IP protocol are running well.
> >Both PC's have installed DirectX 9.0 for DirectPlay.
> >
> >However: > >---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
> >---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC,but cannot connect.
> >
> >
> >PS: My WinXP firewall is deactivated and Zonealarm is shut down.
> >
> >Any comment or hint is very welcome.
> >
> >Thomas,
> >Germany
>
> First, simplify the network setup by removing NetBEUI from both PCs.
> Then, choose either TCP/IP or IPX for File and Printer Sharing and
> un-bind sharing from the other one. I've written a web page with
> details:
>
> Windows XP Network Protocols
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>
> The IPX problems can probably be solved by making compatible settings
> on both computers:
>
> 1. Enable NetBIOS over IPX.
> 2. Specify an explicit frame type, such as Ethernet 802.3.
> 3. Set the Network Addresses to the same value.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:

> In article <3fd6158a$0$3426$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Hi Group:
>>
>>Hopefully somebody from this group may have a solution for my IPX protocol
>>problem.
>>
>>The problem is that 2 PCs with WinXP and Win98SE are not able to communicate
>>by IPX.
>>(Need this protocol for some old, but nice LAN-Games)
>>
>>TCP/IP, IPX, NetBIOS and NetBEUI are installed on both PCs and
>>Windows-Network and TCP/IP protocol are running well.
>>Both PC's have installed DirectX 9.0 for DirectPlay.
>>
>>However:
>>---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
>>---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC,but cannot connect.
>>
>>
>>PS: My WinXP firewall is deactivated and Zonealarm is shut down.
>>
>>Any comment or hint is very welcome.
>>
>>Thomas,
>>Germany
>
>
> First, simplify the network setup by removing NetBEUI from both PCs.
> Then, choose either TCP/IP or IPX for File and Printer Sharing and
> un-bind sharing from the other one. I've written a web page with
> details:
>
> Windows XP Network Protocols
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>
> The IPX problems can probably be solved by making compatible settings
> on both computers:
>
> 1. Enable NetBIOS over IPX.
> 2. Specify an explicit frame type, such as Ethernet 802.3.
> 3. Set the Network Addresses to the same value.
Steve,
Very fine job on the Practicallynetworked site.

Rick

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3fd6158a$0$3426$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Group:
>
> Hopefully somebody from this group may have a solution for my IPX protocol
> problem.
>
> The problem is that 2 PCs with WinXP and Win98SE are not able to
communicate
> by IPX.
> (Need this protocol for some old, but nice LAN-Games)
>
> TCP/IP, IPX, NetBIOS and NetBEUI are installed on both PCs and
> Windows-Network and TCP/IP protocol are running well.
> Both PC's have installed DirectX 9.0 for DirectPlay.
>
> However:
> ---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
> ---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC,but cannot connect.
>
>
> PS: My WinXP firewall is deactivated and Zonealarm is shut down.
>
> Any comment or hint is very welcome.
>
> Thomas,
> Germany
>
>
>

In article <3fd7651f$0$17560$(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Steve:
>
>Thanks for your comments, but the result is still the same:
>---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
>---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC, but cannot connect.
>
>What I have done is:
>- specified IPX frame type 802.3
>- set IPX network adresses to 0 on both PCs
>- removed NetBEUI
>- removed IPX bindings for file sharing and network client and left TCP/IP
>only
>- enabled NetBIOS over IPX
>
>What was not clear:
>Win98 requires bindings for NetBIOS, so I left file sharing and network
>client for NetBIOS.
>I could not find any option to modify bindings for NetBIOS under WinXP.
>
>Is there anything else what I could try?
>Thomas

In XP, you can un-bind NetBIOS from IPX/SPX by un-checking "NWLink
NetBIOS" in the list of network components in the connection
properties.

However, since you need IPX/SPX for games, it might be best to use
IPX/SPX for file and printer sharing on your network and un-bind file
sharing from TCP/IP.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Rick
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
>>[snip]
>> Then, choose either TCP/IP or IPX for File and Printer Sharing and
>> un-bind sharing from the other one. I've written a web page with
>> details:
>>
>> Windows XP Network Protocols
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>>
>> The IPX problems can probably be solved by making compatible settings
>> on both computers:
>>
>> 1. Enable NetBIOS over IPX.
>> 2. Specify an explicit frame type, such as Ethernet 802.3.
>> 3. Set the Network Addresses to the same value.
>
>Steve,
>Very fine job on the Practicallynetworked site.
>
>Rick

Thanks, Rick. Setting up network protocols can be confusing, and
there's a lot of misinformation about it on the web and in news
groups. I did my best to give a complete and accurate description of
the subject.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve,
I appreciate your assistance. I have already tried to unbind TCP/IP,
however, need TCP/IP for Internet sharing.
What was astonishing yesterday:
MSHEARTS on the XP machine does not see a network and starts a single
session.
This might be a hint. Something with the XP computer must be wrong.
Do you know what network configuration is required for MSHEARTS?
Thomas

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <3fd7651f$0$17560$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Steve:
> >
> >Thanks for your comments, but the result is still the same:
> >---> WinXP does not see the Win98-PC via IPX and
> >---> Win98 realizes a WinXP-PC, but cannot connect.
> >
> >What I have done is:
> >- specified IPX frame type 802.3
> >- set IPX network adresses to 0 on both PCs
> >- removed NetBEUI
> >- removed IPX bindings for file sharing and network client and left
TCP/IP
> >only
> >- enabled NetBIOS over IPX
> >
> >What was not clear:
> >Win98 requires bindings for NetBIOS, so I left file sharing and network
> >client for NetBIOS.
> >I could not find any option to modify bindings for NetBIOS under WinXP.
> >
> >Is there anything else what I could try?
> >Thomas
>
> In XP, you can un-bind NetBIOS from IPX/SPX by un-checking "NWLink
> NetBIOS" in the list of network components in the connection
> properties.
>
> However, since you need IPX/SPX for games, it might be best to use
> IPX/SPX for file and printer sharing on your network and un-bind file
> sharing from TCP/IP.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Magoo"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Steve,
>I appreciate your assistance. I have already tried to unbind TCP/IP,
>however, need TCP/IP for Internet sharing.
>What was astonishing yesterday:
>MSHEARTS on the XP machine does not see a network and starts a single
>session.
>This might be a hint. Something with the XP computer must be wrong.
>Do you know what network configuration is required for MSHEARTS?
>Thomas

Thomas, don't remove TCP/IP -- just un-bind file sharing from TCP/IP.
That will cause file sharing to only use PX/SPX while TCP/IP is still
available for Internet access.

I've included a section on un-binding file sharing from TCP/IP in this
web page:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm

In Windows XP, Microsoft removed the capability for MSHEARTS to
connect to other players over a network.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Group, I have rebound both TCP/IP and IPX to filesharing and network client.
The secret was to set IPX as the standard protocol on the Win98 machine.
(IPX properties -> advanced).
Now it works.
Thomas

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Magoo"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Steve,
> >I appreciate your assistance. I have already tried to unbind TCP/IP,
> >however, need TCP/IP for Internet sharing.
> >What was astonishing yesterday:
> >MSHEARTS on the XP machine does not see a network and starts a single
> >session.
> >This might be a hint. Something with the XP computer must be wrong.
> >Do you know what network configuration is required for MSHEARTS?
> >Thomas
>
> Thomas, don't remove TCP/IP -- just un-bind file sharing from TCP/IP.
> That will cause file sharing to only use PX/SPX while TCP/IP is still
> available for Internet access.
>
> I've included a section on un-binding file sharing from TCP/IP in this
> web page:
>
> Windows XP Network Protocols
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm
>
> In Windows XP, Microsoft removed the capability for MSHEARTS to
> connect to other players over a network.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm