Ipaq with Bluetooth - via ADSL?

I'm currently toying with the idea of buying an Ipaq 3970, which is
bluetooth enabled. Primarily for a "boys and toys" item, but also for
GPS (same catergory I would assume;-)

Anyway, since I have ADSL, and one machine in the network, that has
inbuilt bluetooth, I was wondering if this could in fact be used as a
wireless conection to the internet through that "paid for" connection?

My gut feeling is that it cant - and goggle hasnt shown me one way or
the other, so hence asking here!

Anyone know if it can be done (and if alternative hardware is needed)

(The machines are currently hardwired via a cisco switch - but have
been toying with WiFi for other machines in the house - ie kids
bedrooms (with net nanny of course;-)


Any advice appreciated.

Cheers




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guv wrote:
> I'm currently toying with the idea of buying an Ipaq 3970, which is
> bluetooth enabled. Primarily for a "boys and toys" item, but also for
> GPS (same catergory I would assume;-)
>
> Anyway, since I have ADSL, and one machine in the network, that has
> inbuilt bluetooth, I was wondering if this could in fact be used as a
> wireless conection to the internet through that "paid for" connection?
>
> My gut feeling is that it cant - and goggle hasnt shown me one way or
> the other, so hence asking here!
>
> Anyone know if it can be done (and if alternative hardware is needed)
>
> (The machines are currently hardwired via a cisco switch - but have
> been toying with WiFi for other machines in the house - ie kids
> bedrooms (with net nanny of course;-)
>

I my view, you'd be better connecting wireless (802.11b) but you'll need a
wireless access point or router.

Using that, you can then connect your ipaq. You'll also need to install a
wireless CF card. This is costing money by the minute

Alternatively, you could snap up a bargain on ebay. This Toshiba e740 Pocket PC
has in-built wireless and cost about £180 incl P+P (shipped from the US).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=3039000732

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 20:05:26 +0100, guv <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I'm currently toying with the idea of buying an Ipaq 3970, which is
>bluetooth enabled. Primarily for a "boys and toys" item, but also for
>GPS (same catergory I would assume;-)
>
I can't help you with the ADSL question, but I can thoroughly
recommend Tomtom Navigator 2 for GPS navigation. I recently bought a
package from Holux UK and have been amazed at how good the voice
navigation is.

Andrew.

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 20:23:29 +0100, "Mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> I'm currently toying with the idea of buying an Ipaq 3970, which is
>> bluetooth enabled. Primarily for a "boys and toys" item, but also for
>> GPS (same catergory I would assume;-)
>>
>> Anyway, since I have ADSL, and one machine in the network, that has
>> inbuilt bluetooth, I was wondering if this could in fact be used as a
>> wireless conection to the internet through that "paid for" connection?
>>
>> My gut feeling is that it cant - and goggle hasnt shown me one way or
>> the other, so hence asking here!
>>
>> Anyone know if it can be done (and if alternative hardware is needed)
>>
>> (The machines are currently hardwired via a cisco switch - but have
>> been toying with WiFi for other machines in the house - ie kids
>> bedrooms (with net nanny of course;-)
>>
>
>I my view, you'd be better connecting wireless (802.11b) but you'll need a
>wireless access point or router.

As mentioned, I had been looking at this as a real option for other
PCs. Obviously the 3970 doesnt have WiFi;-(

>Using that, you can then connect your ipaq. You'll also need to install a
>wireless CF card. This is costing money by the minute

I had looked at the 5540, but the cost is far to high! I had managed
to source the 3970 today (last one!) for £267 inc Vat. Went to buy,
but the screen has a mark on it. (Ex display in comet!)

As you say below - if I were to go this route, Id be better off with a
device already WiFi enabled. (Have you seen the price of their
addons!)

>Alternatively, you could snap up a bargain on ebay. This Toshiba e740 Pocket PC
>has in-built wireless and cost about £180 incl P+P (shipped from the US).
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=3039000732

Not an alternative I fancy to be honest. Problems always seem to
follow me, and I would hate to make the purchase, and either, not
recieve the goods, recieve with a fault, get stung by customs, or
eventually develope a fault. Good prices though - and the Toshiba does
look like a good alternative to the Ipaq.


However - can bluetooth be used like a network connection? Or is
WiFi/USB the only alternative for an internet connection?

Cheers




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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 21:15:48 +0100, "David W.E. Roberts"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>My setup is different - I have an 802.11b card in my iPAQ and I use this via
>an AP both to sync with my PC and to connect to the Internet over ADSL.
>
>As I understand it you are proposing to work through your PC which has a
>bluetooth adapter.

Yup. My network consists of 5 PCs. One of them has a bluetooth adapter
built in. It isnt the "primary" connection, so maybe that could make a
difference! As you say, its all about research!

>I think that should be possible - one of the configuration options for
>Internet connection is via your ActiveSync connection.
>Having said that (and assuming it is really intended to allow you to surf
>via USB connection to your PC) I have never tried it.

To be honest, the ability to do so is not my major consideration. As
mentioned GPS would probably be that. However, I would hate to make a
purchase and say those fateful words "if only I had bought an "XYZ",
cos that can do it! I bet you know what I mean! ;-)

>You are more likely to get an informed answer on NGs such as
>microsoft.public.pocketpc or via websites such as http://www.cewindows.net/.

Will take a peak, thanks.

>I suspect ICS may also work.
>
>My gut feeling is that there should be a way, but it may be a swine to work
>out.

Part of the fun and frustration;-) To be honest, even if it can be
done, its likley the connection via bluetooth is going to be so slow,
I would give up. But until I find out........


Cheers



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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 21:42:34 +0100, guv <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 20:23:29 +0100, "Mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>> I'm currently toying with the idea of buying an Ipaq 3970, which is
>>> bluetooth enabled. Primarily for a "boys and toys" item, but also for
>>> GPS (same catergory I would assume;-)
>>>
>>> Anyway, since I have ADSL, and one machine in the network, that has
>>> inbuilt bluetooth, I was wondering if this could in fact be used as a
>>> wireless conection to the internet through that "paid for" connection?

Have now found the following URL, which suggests that it is possible
to connect via Bluetooth:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=445


Doesnt say how fast the connection is though;-(




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"Ian Gibbons" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "guv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 21:15:48 +0100, "David W.E. Roberts"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >My setup is different - I have an 802.11b card in my iPAQ and I use
this
> via
> > >an AP both to sync with my PC and to connect to the Internet over ADSL.
> > >
> > >As I understand it you are proposing to work through your PC which has
a
> > >bluetooth adapter.
> >
> > Yup. My network consists of 5 PCs. One of them has a bluetooth adapter
> > built in. It isnt the "primary" connection, so maybe that could make a
> > difference! As you say, its all about research!
> >
> > >I think that should be possible - one of the configuration options for
> > >Internet connection is via your ActiveSync connection.
> > >Having said that (and assuming it is really intended to allow you to
surf
> > >via USB connection to your PC) I have never tried it.
> >
> > To be honest, the ability to do so is not my major consideration. As
> > mentioned GPS would probably be that. However, I would hate to make a
> > purchase and say those fateful words "if only I had bought an "XYZ",
> > cos that can do it! I bet you know what I mean! ;-)
> >
> > >You are more likely to get an informed answer on NGs such as
> > >microsoft.public.pocketpc or via websites such as
> http://www.cewindows.net/.
> >
> > Will take a peak, thanks.
> >
> > >I suspect ICS may also work.
> > >
> > >My gut feeling is that there should be a way, but it may be a swine to
> work
> > >out.
> >
> > Part of the fun and frustration;-) To be honest, even if it can be
> > done, its likley the connection via bluetooth is going to be so slow,
> > I would give up. But until I find out........
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Marquee Hire at cheap rates from www.37b.co.uk
>
> From my notes on certain computer connections, the Bluetooth 2
specification
> has speeds of 4, 8 or 12 MB/second, depending on distance. What the
> distances are im not sure ;p
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ian
>
>

Bluetooth 1.1 has a rate of 1MB/s with a range of 10m. Bluetooth 1.2 does
2-3Mbit/s. Just to correct myself Bluetooth 2 is 4, 8, 12 Mbit/s, not MB/s.
Bah these sheets we were given are crap lol. Think they mean 1Mbit/s for the
1.1 specification.

Ian.

"guv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> I'm currently toying with the idea of buying an Ipaq 3970, which is
> bluetooth enabled. Primarily for a "boys and toys" item, but also for
> GPS (same catergory I would assume;-)
>
> Anyway, since I have ADSL, and one machine in the network, that has
> inbuilt bluetooth, I was wondering if this could in fact be used as a
> wireless conection to the internet through that "paid for" connection?
>
> My gut feeling is that it cant - and goggle hasnt shown me one way or
> the other, so hence asking here!
>

If you can use Active Sync over blue tooth, then you should be able to use
Pass Through to connect via the lap top. The laptop will need to be swicthed
on and logged in, with active sync running and connected to the IPq.

> Anyone know if it can be done (and if alternative hardware is needed)
>
> (The machines are currently hardwired via a cisco switch - but have
> been toying with WiFi for other machines in the house - ie kids
> bedrooms (with net nanny of course;-)
>
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
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>
> Marquee Hire at cheap rates from www.37b.co.uk