IP Question......

Just about to sign up for a service and have looked through
http://www.adslguide.org/ to help with deciding on a supplier......


I have one final question (and forgive me if this seems stupid), but what is
the difference between STATIC & DYNAMIC IP. I realise that one is fixed and
the other is randomly allocated from a specific range on connection, but
will it mean any service differences to a Joe Soap home user.

Cheers in advance for the help.
Dazzlin

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:58:03 +0100, "Dazzlin"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Just about to sign up for a service and have looked through
>http://www.adslguide.org/ to help with deciding on a supplier......
>
>
>I have one final question (and forgive me if this seems stupid), but what is
>the difference between STATIC & DYNAMIC IP. I realise that one is fixed and
>the other is randomly allocated from a specific range on connection, but
>will it mean any service differences to a Joe Soap home user.

You will get the same service. If you want to run services on your PC
that prefer a fixed IP (such as an e-mail server or website) then opt
for one of the ISP's that offer static IP for free.

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Hiram Hackenbacker
said......

> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:58:03 +0100, "Dazzlin"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Just about to sign up for a service and have looked through
> >http://www.adslguide.org/ to help with deciding on a supplier......
> >
> >
> >I have one final question (and forgive me if this seems stupid), but what is
> >the difference between STATIC & DYNAMIC IP. I realise that one is fixed and
> >the other is randomly allocated from a specific range on connection, but
> >will it mean any service differences to a Joe Soap home user.
>
> You will get the same service. If you want to run services on your PC
> that prefer a fixed IP (such as an e-mail server or website) then opt
> for one of the ISP's that offer static IP for free.
>
>
Servers don't need fixed IPs these days with the plethora of dynamic DNS
services. VPN might but I've never used it
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Mugwump

Mugwump <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


> Servers don't need fixed IPs these days with the plethora of dynamic DNS
> services. VPN might but I've never used it

While that's true, if you want to run your own mail server, a fixed IP is
safest. Currently, many ISPs and companies are blacklisting mailservers on
dynamic IPs as an anti-spam measure. Others are implementing greylisting
that will delay your mail to that domain every time your IP changes.

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Martin

I went with a Static IP provider in the end...

Thanks for the help guys


"Martin Cooper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:gemini.3f6e0cce02c665ff%(E-Mail Removed). ..
> Mugwump <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
> > Servers don't need fixed IPs these days with the plethora of dynamic DNS
> > services. VPN might but I've never used it
>
> While that's true, if you want to run your own mail server, a fixed IP is
> safest. Currently, many ISPs and companies are blacklisting mailservers
on
> dynamic IPs as an anti-spam measure. Others are implementing greylisting
> that will delay your mail to that domain every time your IP changes.
>
> --
>
> Martin

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:58:03 +0100, "Dazzlin"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Just about to sign up for a service and have looked through
> >http://www.adslguide.org/ to help with deciding on a supplier......
> >
> >
> >I have one final question (and forgive me if this seems stupid), but what is
> >the difference between STATIC & DYNAMIC IP. I realise that one is fixed and
> >the other is randomly allocated from a specific range on connection, but
> >will it mean any service differences to a Joe Soap home user.
>
> You will get the same service. If you want to run services on your PC
> that prefer a fixed IP (such as an e-mail server or website) then opt
> for one of the ISP's that offer static IP for free.

However, check the ISP's terms and conditions about running servers.

Plusnet don't allow you to run open servers on their system. From the T&C,

"The use of the service to run open servers, such as SMTP relay, Web
proxy and NNTP is prohibited. PlusNet define an open server being one
which can be connected to over the Internet by hosts not in a trusted
list."

This implies that there has to be some way of "authenticating" hosts (I.e.
addresses) based on their address.

Pete.

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"Pete Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:58:03 +0100, "Dazzlin"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > >Just about to sign up for a service and have looked through
> > >http://www.adslguide.org/ to help with deciding on a supplier......
> > >
> > >
> > >I have one final question (and forgive me if this seems stupid), but
what is
> > >the difference between STATIC & DYNAMIC IP. I realise that one is fixed
and
> > >the other is randomly allocated from a specific range on connection,
but
> > >will it mean any service differences to a Joe Soap home user.
> >
> > You will get the same service. If you want to run services on your PC
> > that prefer a fixed IP (such as an e-mail server or website) then opt
> > for one of the ISP's that offer static IP for free.
>
> However, check the ISP's terms and conditions about running servers.
>
> Plusnet don't allow you to run open servers on their system. From the T&C,
>
> "The use of the service to run open servers, such as SMTP relay, Web
> proxy and NNTP is prohibited. PlusNet define an open server being one
> which can be connected to over the Internet by hosts not in a trusted
> list."
>
> This implies that there has to be some way of "authenticating" hosts (I.e.
> addresses) based on their address.

Note that the services they specifically stated were all ones which could be
used to annoy people on the internet whilst hiding your tracks - eg. SMTP
relay (spamming), NNTP (spamming), Web proxy (hiding who's accessing dodgy
websites with stolen CC numbers). This is probably what they mean about
non-trusted lists. I would be suprised if someone who put up a website
would be required to authenticate users.

Basically, I think they're trying to stamp out methods that people use to
hide their tracks and reflect bad on PlusNet.

D

In article <bkmnnb$tr1$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
says...
>
> "Pete Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:58:03 +0100, "Dazzlin"
> > > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Just about to sign up for a service and have looked through
> > > >http://www.adslguide.org/ to help with deciding on a supplier......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I have one final question (and forgive me if this seems stupid), but
> what is
> > > >the difference between STATIC & DYNAMIC IP. I realise that one is fixed
> and
> > > >the other is randomly allocated from a specific range on connection,
> but
> > > >will it mean any service differences to a Joe Soap home user.
> > >
> > > You will get the same service. If you want to run services on your PC
> > > that prefer a fixed IP (such as an e-mail server or website) then opt
> > > for one of the ISP's that offer static IP for free.
> >
> > However, check the ISP's terms and conditions about running servers.
> >
> > Plusnet don't allow you to run open servers on their system. From the T&C,
> >
> > "The use of the service to run open servers, such as SMTP relay, Web
> > proxy and NNTP is prohibited. PlusNet define an open server being one
> > which can be connected to over the Internet by hosts not in a trusted
> > list."
> >
> > This implies that there has to be some way of "authenticating" hosts (I.e.
> > addresses) based on their address.
>
> Note that the services they specifically stated were all ones which could be
> used to annoy people on the internet whilst hiding your tracks - eg. SMTP
> relay (spamming), NNTP (spamming), Web proxy (hiding who's accessing dodgy
> websites with stolen CC numbers). This is probably what they mean about
> non-trusted lists. I would be suprised if someone who put up a website
> would be required to authenticate users.
>
> Basically, I think they're trying to stamp out methods that people use to
> hide their tracks and reflect bad on PlusNet.

See what you mean.

I may actually try and get some verification on this, because I'd like to
host files (not necessarily a whole website) on my PC, running Apache,
"redirected" from my webspace (I've got digital photos I want to share
with friends, but there are too many to upload.

Pete.

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Mugwump wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Hiram Hackenbacker
> said......
>
>
>>On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:58:03 +0100, "Dazzlin"
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just about to sign up for a service and have looked through
>>>http://www.adslguide.org/ to help with deciding on a supplier......
>>>
>>>
>>>I have one final question (and forgive me if this seems stupid), but what is
>>>the difference between STATIC & DYNAMIC IP. I realise that one is fixed and
>>>the other is randomly allocated from a specific range on connection, but
>>>will it mean any service differences to a Joe Soap home user.
>>
>>You will get the same service. If you want to run services on your PC
>>that prefer a fixed IP (such as an e-mail server or website) then opt
>>for one of the ISP's that offer static IP for free.
>>
>>
>
> Servers don't need fixed IPs these days with the plethora of dynamic DNS
> services. VPN might but I've never used it

Don't need is a relative term...

They don't need it to APPEAR to work.

They DO need it though to work correctly. Unless you like someone else getting your email/web traffic because you're down & haven't been able to update dyndns.org yet...

H

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Pete Smith <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> In article <bkmnnb$tr1$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
> says...
<snip "of servers on plusnet">
> See what you mean.
>
> I may actually try and get some verification on this, because I'd like to
> host files (not necessarily a whole website) on my PC, running Apache,
> "redirected" from my webspace (I've got digital photos I want to share
> with friends, but there are too many to upload.

Could you let us know if/when you get clarification, as I'm interested
too.
(In my case, a webcam for a live feed)

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