IP over IP to make static IP?

Jem Berkes <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hmmm, I just had a weird idea. Lots of us run our nifty little servers out
> of our basements, with the only problem being a dynamic IP address from our
> ISP. My ISP's terms of service even allow me to run private servers.
>
> Now what if some third party comes along, and has maybe a class C of IP
> addresses at its disposable. And provides, for a subscription fee, IP over
> IP tunneling where the destination is the current dynamic IP of a customer
> as learned through HTTP callback or something.
>
> So this third party could provide anyone with a dynamic IP a real static IP
> address. The third party's cost would be: IP addresses (of course), and
> bandwidth.
>
> Is such a thing feasible? Does it already exist?

What you describe is called IP mobility, and noone really uses it at all
for IPv4.

One solution would be tunneling. It's not a great thing, but it
works. The third party would also get twice the traffic though because
the traffic would have to go to the third party, and out again through
the tunnel.

You may prefer to use something like www.dyndns.org, or something
similar. It's not perfect, but acceptable for occasional use.

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Hmmm, I just had a weird idea. Lots of us run our nifty little servers out
of our basements, with the only problem being a dynamic IP address from our
ISP. My ISP's terms of service even allow me to run private servers.

Now what if some third party comes along, and has maybe a class C of IP
addresses at its disposable. And provides, for a subscription fee, IP over
IP tunneling where the destination is the current dynamic IP of a customer
as learned through HTTP callback or something.

So this third party could provide anyone with a dynamic IP a real static IP
address. The third party's cost would be: IP addresses (of course), and
bandwidth.

Is such a thing feasible? Does it already exist?

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Jem Berkes
http://www.sysdesign.ca/

On 5 Feb 2004 17:01:16 +1300, Cameron Kerr
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>You may prefer to use something like www.dyndns.org, or something
>similar. It's not perfect, but acceptable for occasional use.

Dynamic ip works fine, better than just acceptable for occasional use.

You can also check out www.zoneedit.com.

Dan

"Jem Berkes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns9485E1B2C8E7Fjbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24.. .
> Hmmm, I just had a weird idea. Lots of us run our nifty little servers out
> of our basements, with the only problem being a dynamic IP address from
our
> ISP. My ISP's terms of service even allow me to run private servers.
>
> Now what if some third party comes along, and has maybe a class C of IP
> addresses at its disposable. And provides, for a subscription fee, IP over
> IP tunneling where the destination is the current dynamic IP of a customer
> as learned through HTTP callback or something.
>
> So this third party could provide anyone with a dynamic IP a real static
IP
> address. The third party's cost would be: IP addresses (of course), and
> bandwidth.
>
> Is such a thing feasible? Does it already exist?

VPN would do that.

The VPN traffic doesnt have to be limitted to internal traffic.

However VPN is just an encrypted tunnel.
A normal tunnel can be used for interent traffic.

>
> --
> Jem Berkes
> http://www.sysdesign.ca/

So anyway, it was like, 05:11 CET Feb 05 2004, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Jem Berkes was all like, "Dude,

[..]

> So this third party could provide anyone with a dynamic IP a real
> static IP address. The third party's cost would be: IP addresses (of
> course), and bandwidth.
>
> Is such a thing feasible? Does it already exist?

Seems to me using one of the (free, mostly) dynamic dns services would
be a heck of a lot simpler.

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> Dynamic ip works fine, better than just acceptable for occasional use.
>
> You can also check out www.zoneedit.com.

Heh, I know about DNS You're talking to a guy who has run a relatively
large web site off a dynamic IP for years.

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Jem Berkes
http://www.sysdesign.ca/

Johan Lindquist <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<hcg9f1-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> So anyway, it was like, 05:11 CET Feb 05 2004, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
> Jem Berkes was all like, "Dude,
>
> [..]
>
> > So this third party could provide anyone with a dynamic IP a real
> > static IP address. The third party's cost would be: IP addresses (of
> > course), and bandwidth.
> >
> > Is such a thing feasible? Does it already exist?
>
> Seems to me using one of the (free, mostly) dynamic dns services would
> be a heck of a lot simpler.

Yea, this is really a DNS/naming thing. Pointer to a pointer.
Previous posters are right, it's just a dynamic DNS issue - I've been
using TZO for a few years with little problem. They've got deamons
for everything from Win to BSD.

Although you're not using 3rd party subnets like you mentioned, you're
sort of eliminating an extra step and going direct to the ISP at hand.
I think.

Buck