Internet printer questions

Hi everybody,
I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great

Thanks in advance

D.

"Javac" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>Hi everybody,
>I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
>an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
>a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
>works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
>an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great

No idea what you mean "accessible with a public address on http". http is
NOT a printing protocol.
I would try
Add a printer with lpd and with the public address x.y.z.k
using cups or the redhat printer config tool.

I know what http is, and i know it sounds strange. But some printers,
like this one, are accessible so (it sounded strange also for me at the
beginning). How it is or how it is not, on windows it works perfectly
simply giving the address like i wrote before, now I am trying to find
out if i can use the same printer from linux.

Any ideas?


Unruh ha scritto:

> "Javac" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
> >Hi everybody,
> >I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
> >an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
> >a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
> >works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
> >an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great
>
> No idea what you mean "accessible with a public address on http". http is
> NOT a printing protocol.
> I would try
> Add a printer with lpd and with the public address x.y.z.k
> using cups or the redhat printer config tool.

Javac wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
> an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
> a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
> works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
> an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> D.

I'd run nmap on the printer and see what ports are open first. I've set
up network printers on WinXP and Win98SE and never entered anything that
looks like "http ://x.y.z.k" so I'm a little puzzled by this.

Mark

Unruh wrote:
> "Javac" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>>Hi everybody,
>>I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
>>an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
>>a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
>>works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
>>an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great
>
> No idea what you mean "accessible with a public address on http". http is
> NOT a printing protocol.
> I would try
> Add a printer with lpd and with the public address x.y.z.k
> using cups or the redhat printer config tool.

HTTP sure wasn't designed as a print protocol, but it's been one for the
last few years, anyway. IPP is pretty much just HTTP with a more
rigidly defined document format and a service port, usually, of 631. MS
IPP usually uses port 80, though, so MS URIs usually start with http://.

CUPS knows how to print to HTTP printers. Install, run, and configure
CUPS. By far, the easiest way to configure it is via its web page. I
find CUPS easier than Windows to configure for HTTP printing.

Mark Atherton wrote:
> Javac wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>> I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
>> an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
>> a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
>> works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
>> an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
> I'd run nmap on the printer and see what ports are open first. I've set
> up network printers on WinXP and Win98SE and never entered anything that
> looks like "http ://x.y.z.k" so I'm a little puzzled by this.

Not that this is a Windows group, but you enter the URI when you define
the port in WXP. I doubt W98 understands HTTP printing. W2k barely did.

CUPS doesn't separate the config of the port from the config of the
printer. It's all one big ball, including the forms.

"Javac" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>I know what http is, and i know it sounds strange. But some printers,
>like this one, are accessible so (it sounded strange also for me at the
>beginning). How it is or how it is not, on windows it works perfectly
>simply giving the address like i wrote before, now I am trying to find
>out if i can use the same printer from linux.

>Any ideas?

Yes. read all of my post.



>Unruh ha scritto:

>> "Javac" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>
>> >Hi everybody,
>> >I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
>> >an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
>> >a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
>> >works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
>> >an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great
>>
>> No idea what you mean "accessible with a public address on http". http is
>> NOT a printing protocol.
>> I would try
>> Add a printer with lpd and with the public address x.y.z.k
>> using cups or the redhat printer config tool.

Javac wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
> an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
> a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
> works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
> an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> D.

Are you using Explorer on Windows? Some pages are desgined for IE only.
Try different browsers on Linux, Konqueror, Firefox, Opera, etc.

Test at the command line with:
wget x.y.z.k

This should download index.html to your current directory. If it does,
it's a browser problem, if not it's a network problem.

Allen Kistler ha scritto:

> Unruh wrote:
> > "Javac" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> >
> >>Hi everybody,
> >>I have some questions about printers in linux. I am trying to configure
> >>an internet printer on my fedora system. This printer is accesible with
> >>a public address on http ( http ://x.y.z.k ). On windows it perfectly
> >>works, but i can't manage to make it work on linux. Does anybody have
> >>an idea for me? Also a small hint would be great
> >
> > No idea what you mean "accessible with a public address on http". http is
> > NOT a printing protocol.
> > I would try
> > Add a printer with lpd and with the public address x.y.z.k
> > using cups or the redhat printer config tool.
>
> HTTP sure wasn't designed as a print protocol, but it's been one for the
> last few years, anyway. IPP is pretty much just HTTP with a more
> rigidly defined document format and a service port, usually, of 631. MS
> IPP usually uses port 80, though, so MS URIs usually start with http://.
>
> CUPS knows how to print to HTTP printers. Install, run, and configure
> CUPS. By far, the easiest way to configure it is via its web page. I
> find CUPS easier than Windows to configure for HTTP printing.

Ok thank you, this really helps me I will try as soon as possible

D.

I did it and I want to share the solution.
Simply modify by hand the printers.conf file putting the right
connection string as above, and then restart cups. Do not try to use
the gui included in gnome, it will overwrite it with ipp instead of
http. In few words, the standard gui simply doesn't support such a
thing.

Thanks everybody