internet connection sharing

Two computers connected to a router and dsl service.
Tried the steps below for both computers.
I cannot enable sharing on either computer.
Going to control panel -> add/remove programs -> windows
setup -> internet tools -> details ->
When I place a check-mark at internet connection sharing,
click ok, ok and the programs are loaded, then the
internet connecting sharing wizard opens.

Problem - the wizard cannot find the nic or a usb network
device (one computer has a nic the other the usb device,
it only finds the internal modem card. BTW both computers
can access the net successfully.

How can I tell the wizard to use the network device (or do
I let it use the modem and change the 'connection'
somewhere else?) And exactly HOW do I change the
connection setting from the modem to the network device?

If I exit the wizard and restart the computer the check-
mark on the "internet connection sharing" has been
removed, and there is no 'network neighborhood'.

How do I enable the network neighborhood?

I tried sharing using the control panel -> network ->
client for microsoft networks -> file and printer sharing
but that does not enable the 'network neighborhood' either.

In article <358e01c471c7$e5cbb620$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Two computers connected to a router and dsl service.
>Tried the steps below for both computers.
>I cannot enable sharing on either computer.
>Going to control panel -> add/remove programs -> windows
>setup -> internet tools -> details ->
>When I place a check-mark at internet connection sharing,
>click ok, ok and the programs are loaded, then the
>internet connecting sharing wizard opens.
>
>Problem - the wizard cannot find the nic or a usb network
>device (one computer has a nic the other the usb device,
>it only finds the internal modem card. BTW both computers
>can access the net successfully.
>
>How can I tell the wizard to use the network device (or do
>I let it use the modem and change the 'connection'
>somewhere else?) And exactly HOW do I change the
>connection setting from the modem to the network device?
>
>If I exit the wizard and restart the computer the check-
>mark on the "internet connection sharing" has been
>removed, and there is no 'network neighborhood'.
>
>How do I enable the network neighborhood?
>
>I tried sharing using the control panel -> network ->
>client for microsoft networks -> file and printer sharing
>but that does not enable the 'network neighborhood' either.

Enabling Internet Connection Sharing is only necessary when the
Internet (DSL modem, cable modem, etc) connects directly to a
computer. That doesn't apply to your setup, because the Internet
connects to the router's WAN (Internet) port, not to a computer. The
router will share the DSL connection with both computers.

If you've installed ICS, un-install it. Configure both computers'
network connections to obtain an IP address automatically, and the
router's built-in DHCP server will take care of all the settings.

To enable Network Neighborhood, try these steps, in order. If one
doesn't fix the problem, go on to the next one:

1. Go to Control Panel. If Tweak UI is present, double click it. On
the Desktop tab, put a check mark in the Network Neighborhood box,
click Apply and OK.

2. Go to Control Panel | Network. Remove Client for Microsoft
Networks if it's present. Then add Client for Microsoft Networks.
Reboot.

3. There could be a system policy hiding Network Neighborhood. Run
the registry editor, open this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer

Delete the value named "NoNetHood". Reboot.
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See inline comments:
>-----Original Message-----
>In article <358e01c471c7$e5cbb620
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Two computers connected to a router and dsl service.
>>Tried the steps below for both computers.
>>I cannot enable sharing on either computer.
>>Going to control panel -> add/remove programs -> windows
>>setup -> internet tools -> details ->
>>When I place a check-mark at internet connection
sharing,
>>click ok, ok and the programs are loaded, then the
>>internet connecting sharing wizard opens.
>>
>>Problem - the wizard cannot find the nic or a usb
network
>>device (one computer has a nic the other the usb device,
>>it only finds the internal modem card. BTW both
computers
>>can access the net successfully.
>>
>>How can I tell the wizard to use the network device (or
do
>>I let it use the modem and change the 'connection'
>>somewhere else?) And exactly HOW do I change the
>>connection setting from the modem to the network device?
>>
>>If I exit the wizard and restart the computer the check-
>>mark on the "internet connection sharing" has been
>>removed, and there is no 'network neighborhood'.
>>
>>How do I enable the network neighborhood?
>>
>>I tried sharing using the control panel -> network ->
>>client for microsoft networks -> file and printer
sharing
>>but that does not enable the 'network neighborhood'
either.
>
>Enabling Internet Connection Sharing is only necessary
when the
>Internet (DSL modem, cable modem, etc) connects directly
to a
>computer. That doesn't apply to your setup, because the
Internet
>connects to the router's WAN (Internet) port, not to a
computer. The
>router will share the DSL connection with both computers.
>

**
Not talking about computers 'sharing' the modem - I want
to share files and printers between computers.
**

>If you've installed ICS, un-install it. Configure both
computers'
>network connections to obtain an IP address
automatically, and the
>router's built-in DHCP server will take care of all the
settings.
>

**
What is ICS? Computers are set to automatically get IPs.
**

>To enable Network Neighborhood, try these steps, in
order. If one
>doesn't fix the problem, go on to the next one:
>
>1. Go to Control Panel. If Tweak UI is present, double
click it. On
>the Desktop tab, put a check mark in the Network
Neighborhood box,
>click Apply and OK.

**
Network Neighborhood WAS already checked.
**

>
>2. Go to Control Panel | Network. Remove Client for
Microsoft
>Networks if it's present. Then add Client for Microsoft
Networks.
>Reboot.
>

**
Had already done that several times with same result - no
neighborhood.
**

>3. There could be a system policy hiding Network
Neighborhood. Run
>the registry editor, open this key:
>
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersio
n\Policies\Explorer
>
>Delete the value named "NoNetHood". Reboot.

**
It was there, I deleted it and rebooted - same result, no
NN.

What now??
**

>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>

In article <68e201c4758a$93edd330$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Two computers connected to a router and dsl service.
>>>Tried the steps below for both computers.
>>>I cannot enable sharing on either computer.
>>>Going to control panel -> add/remove programs -> windows
>>>setup -> internet tools -> details ->
>>>When I place a check-mark at internet connection sharing,
>>>click ok, ok and the programs are loaded, then the
>>>internet connecting sharing wizard opens.
>>>
>>>Problem - the wizard cannot find the nic or a usb network
>>>device (one computer has a nic the other the usb device,
>>>it only finds the internal modem card. BTW both computers
>>>can access the net successfully.
>>>
>>>How can I tell the wizard to use the network device (or do
>>>I let it use the modem and change the 'connection'
>>>somewhere else?) And exactly HOW do I change the
>>>connection setting from the modem to the network device?
>>>
>>>If I exit the wizard and restart the computer the check-
>>>mark on the "internet connection sharing" has been
>>>removed, and there is no 'network neighborhood'.
>>>
>>>How do I enable the network neighborhood?
>>>
>>>I tried sharing using the control panel -> network ->
>>>client for microsoft networks -> file and printer sharing
>>>but that does not enable the 'network neighborhood' either.
>>

>**
>See inline comments:
>**

>>Enabling Internet Connection Sharing is only necessary when the
>>Internet (DSL modem, cable modem, etc) connects directly to a
>>computer. That doesn't apply to your setup, because the Internet
>>connects to the router's WAN (Internet) port, not to a computer. The
>>router will share the DSL connection with both computers.

>**
>Not talking about computers 'sharing' the modem - I want
>to share files and printers between computers.
>**

>>If you've installed ICS, un-install it. Configure both computers'
>>network connections to obtain an IP address automatically, and the
>>router's built-in DHCP server will take care of all the settings.

>**
>What is ICS? Computers are set to automatically get IPs.
>**

>>To enable Network Neighborhood, try these steps, in order. If one
>>doesn't fix the problem, go on to the next one:
>>
>>1. Go to Control Panel. If Tweak UI is present, double click it. On
>>the Desktop tab, put a check mark in the Network Neighborhood box,
>>click Apply and OK.

>**
>Network Neighborhood WAS already checked.
>**

>>2. Go to Control Panel | Network. Remove Client for Microsoft
>>Networks if it's present. Then add Client for Microsoft Networks.
>>Reboot.

>**
>Had already done that several times with same result - no
>neighborhood.
>**

>>3. There could be a system policy hiding Network Neighborhood. Run
>>the registry editor, open this key:
>>
>>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Policies\Explorer
>>
>>Delete the value named "NoNetHood". Reboot.

>**
>It was there, I deleted it and rebooted - same result, no NN.
>
>What now??
>**

ICS is Internet Connection Sharing, which you said that you installed.
ICS lets a computer share its Internet connection with other
computers. It has nothing to do with sharing files. Since you have a
router, you don't need ICS. Un-install it.

Now that you've deleted the registry key that hid Network
Neighborhood, try this, rebooting after each step:

1. Un-check Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI.
2. Check Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI.
3. Un-install Client for Microsoft Networks.
4. Install Client for Microsoft Networks.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Sorry, unclear on the concept - How do I un-install ICS?
Is that the one with the 'wizard' problem? (The one that
won't stay checked in the 'windows setup'???)

Will try the other (tweak UI, etc.) when I clear up the
ICS question.

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <68e201c4758a$93edd330
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>Two computers connected to a router and dsl service.
>>>>Tried the steps below for both computers.
>>>>I cannot enable sharing on either computer.
>>>>Going to control panel -> add/remove programs ->
windows
>>>>setup -> internet tools -> details ->
>>>>When I place a check-mark at internet connection
sharing,
>>>>click ok, ok and the programs are loaded, then the
>>>>internet connecting sharing wizard opens.
>>>>
>>>>Problem - the wizard cannot find the nic or a usb
network
>>>>device (one computer has a nic the other the usb
device,
>>>>it only finds the internal modem card. BTW both
computers
>>>>can access the net successfully.
>>>>
>>>>How can I tell the wizard to use the network device
(or do
>>>>I let it use the modem and change the 'connection'
>>>>somewhere else?) And exactly HOW do I change the
>>>>connection setting from the modem to the network
device?
>>>>
>>>>If I exit the wizard and restart the computer the
check-
>>>>mark on the "internet connection sharing" has been
>>>>removed, and there is no 'network neighborhood'.
>>>>
>>>>How do I enable the network neighborhood?
>>>>
>>>>I tried sharing using the control panel -> network ->
>>>>client for microsoft networks -> file and printer
sharing
>>>>but that does not enable the 'network neighborhood'
either.
>>>
>
>>**
>>See inline comments:
>>**
>
>>>Enabling Internet Connection Sharing is only necessary
when the
>>>Internet (DSL modem, cable modem, etc) connects
directly to a
>>>computer. That doesn't apply to your setup, because
the Internet
>>>connects to the router's WAN (Internet) port, not to a
computer. The
>>>router will share the DSL connection with both
computers.
>
>>**
>>Not talking about computers 'sharing' the modem - I want
>>to share files and printers between computers.
>>**
>
>>>If you've installed ICS, un-install it. Configure both
computers'
>>>network connections to obtain an IP address
automatically, and the
>>>router's built-in DHCP server will take care of all the
settings.
>
>>**
>>What is ICS? Computers are set to automatically get IPs.
>>**
>
>>>To enable Network Neighborhood, try these steps, in
order. If one
>>>doesn't fix the problem, go on to the next one:
>>>
>>>1. Go to Control Panel. If Tweak UI is present, double
click it. On
>>>the Desktop tab, put a check mark in the Network
Neighborhood box,
>>>click Apply and OK.
>
>>**
>>Network Neighborhood WAS already checked.
>>**
>
>>>2. Go to Control Panel | Network. Remove Client for
Microsoft
>>>Networks if it's present. Then add Client for
Microsoft Networks.
>>>Reboot.
>
>>**
>>Had already done that several times with same result -
no
>>neighborhood.
>>**
>
>>>3. There could be a system policy hiding Network
Neighborhood. Run
>>>the registry editor, open this key:
>>>
>>>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cu rrentVers
ion\Policies\Explorer
>>>
>>>Delete the value named "NoNetHood". Reboot.
>
>>**
>>It was there, I deleted it and rebooted - same result,
no NN.
>>
>>What now??
>>**
>
>ICS is Internet Connection Sharing, which you said that
you installed.
>ICS lets a computer share its Internet connection with
other
>computers. It has nothing to do with sharing files.
Since you have a
>router, you don't need ICS. Un-install it.
>
>Now that you've deleted the registry key that hid Network
>Neighborhood, try this, rebooting after each step:
>
>1. Un-check Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI.
>2. Check Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI.
>3. Un-install Client for Microsoft Networks.
>4. Install Client for Microsoft Networks.
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>

In article <757501c47662$904db1e0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Sorry, unclear on the concept - How do I un-install ICS?
>Is that the one with the 'wizard' problem? (The one that
>won't stay checked in the 'windows setup'???)
>
>Will try the other (tweak UI, etc.) when I clear up the
>ICS question.

Here's how you installed ICS:

> Going to control panel -> add/remove programs -> windows
>setup -> internet tools -> details ->
>When I place a check-mark at internet connection sharing,

Do the same thing, only remove the check mark.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <68e201c4758a$93edd330
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>Two computers connected to a router and dsl service.
>>>>Tried the steps below for both computers.
>>>>I cannot enable sharing on either computer.
>>>>Going to control panel -> add/remove programs ->
windows
>>>>setup -> internet tools -> details ->
>>>>When I place a check-mark at internet connection
sharing,
>>>>click ok, ok and the programs are loaded, then the
>>>>internet connecting sharing wizard opens.
>>>>
>>>>Problem - the wizard cannot find the nic or a usb
network
>>>>device (one computer has a nic the other the usb
device,
>>>>it only finds the internal modem card. BTW both
computers
>>>>can access the net successfully.
>>>>
>>>>How can I tell the wizard to use the network device
(or do
>>>>I let it use the modem and change the 'connection'
>>>>somewhere else?) And exactly HOW do I change the
>>>>connection setting from the modem to the network
device?
>>>>
>>>>If I exit the wizard and restart the computer the
check-
>>>>mark on the "internet connection sharing" has been
>>>>removed, and there is no 'network neighborhood'.
>>>>
>>>>How do I enable the network neighborhood?
>>>>
>>>>I tried sharing using the control panel -> network ->
>>>>client for microsoft networks -> file and printer
sharing
>>>>but that does not enable the 'network neighborhood'
either.
>>>
>
>>**
>>See inline comments:
>>**
>
>>>Enabling Internet Connection Sharing is only necessary
when the
>>>Internet (DSL modem, cable modem, etc) connects
directly to a
>>>computer. That doesn't apply to your setup, because
the Internet
>>>connects to the router's WAN (Internet) port, not to a
computer. The
>>>router will share the DSL connection with both
computers.
>
>>**
>>Not talking about computers 'sharing' the modem - I want
>>to share files and printers between computers.
>>**
>
>>>If you've installed ICS, un-install it. Configure both
computers'
>>>network connections to obtain an IP address
automatically, and the
>>>router's built-in DHCP server will take care of all the
settings.
>
>>**
>>What is ICS? Computers are set to automatically get IPs.
>>**
>
>>>To enable Network Neighborhood, try these steps, in
order. If one
>>>doesn't fix the problem, go on to the next one:
>>>
>>>1. Go to Control Panel. If Tweak UI is present, double
click it. On
>>>the Desktop tab, put a check mark in the Network
Neighborhood box,
>>>click Apply and OK.
>
>>**
>>Network Neighborhood WAS already checked.
>>**
>
>>>2. Go to Control Panel | Network. Remove Client for
Microsoft
>>>Networks if it's present. Then add Client for
Microsoft Networks.
>>>Reboot.
>
>>**
>>Had already done that several times with same result -
no
>>neighborhood.
>>**
>
>>>3. There could be a system policy hiding Network
Neighborhood. Run
>>>the registry editor, open this key:
>>>
>>>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cu rrentVers
ion\Policies\Explorer
>>>
>>>Delete the value named "NoNetHood". Reboot.
>
>>**
>>It was there, I deleted it and rebooted - same result,
no NN.
>>
>>What now??
>>**
>
>ICS is Internet Connection Sharing, which you said that
you installed.
>ICS lets a computer share its Internet connection with
other
>computers. It has nothing to do with sharing files.
Since you have a
>router, you don't need ICS. Un-install it.
>
>Now that you've deleted the registry key that hid Network
>Neighborhood, try this, rebooting after each step:
>
>1. Un-check Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI.
>2. Check Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI.
>3. Un-install Client for Microsoft Networks.
>4. Install Client for Microsoft Networks.
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>
Thanks for the clarification in the two posts below this
one.

First, I checked the registry and found that
the "NoNetHood" had come back. Deleted it again and
rebooted. Gone.

Then I went to the Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI and
unchecked that. When I exited Tweak UI a dialog box
appeared saying that I had to "Log Off" in order for the
change to take affect. I do not have a "Log Off" 'box' in
my start menu (I am the only user so there is no need ti
logoff for another user.)

After I rebooted, I checked both of the above and found
that the checkmark was back in NN and the NNH was back in
the registry.

What now?

In article <7c7701c47727$426a7740$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Thanks for the clarification in the two posts below this
>one.
>
>First, I checked the registry and found that
>the "NoNetHood" had come back. Deleted it again and
>rebooted. Gone.
>
>Then I went to the Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI and
>unchecked that. When I exited Tweak UI a dialog box
>appeared saying that I had to "Log Off" in order for the
>change to take affect. I do not have a "Log Off" 'box' in
>my start menu (I am the only user so there is no need ti
>logoff for another user.)
>
>After I rebooted, I checked both of the above and found
>that the checkmark was back in NN and the NNH was back in
>the registry.
>
>What now?

Look for something that's adding the NoNetHood key to the registry in
these places:

Startup folder.
C:\Autoexec.bat
C:\Config.sys

Go to Start | Run | Msconfig, click the Startup tab, and see what's
running there.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <7c7701c47727$426a7740
$(E-Mail Removed)>, "george"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Thanks for the clarification in the two posts below this
>>one.
>>
>>First, I checked the registry and found that
>>the "NoNetHood" had come back. Deleted it again and
>>rebooted. Gone.
>>
>>Then I went to the Network Neighborhood in Tweak UI and
>>unchecked that. When I exited Tweak UI a dialog box
>>appeared saying that I had to "Log Off" in order for the
>>change to take affect. I do not have a "Log Off" 'box'
in
>>my start menu (I am the only user so there is no need ti
>>logoff for another user.)
>>
>>After I rebooted, I checked both of the above and found
>>that the checkmark was back in NN and the NNH was back
in
>>the registry.
>>
>>What now?
>
>Look for something that's adding the NoNetHood key to the
registry in
>these places:
>
> Startup folder.
> C:\Autoexec.bat

** here is Autoexec.bat - I see nothing
REM [Header]
@ECHO On
REM [CD-ROM Drive]
REM [Miscellaneous]
rem TShoot: c:\windows\COMMAND\MODE LPT1:,,B
REM [Display]
@SET CLASSPATH=C:\PROGRA~1\PHOTOD~1.1\ADOBEC~1
keyb br,,c:\windows\COMMAND\keyboard.sys
**

> C:\Config.sys

** here is config.sys I don't see anything here either
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF /M:1
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
REM [Header]
dos=high,umb
files=150
buffers=60,0
stacks=12,256
REM == PISETUP Begin Delete ==
REM == PISETUP End Delete ==
REM [CD-ROM Drive]
REM [Miscellaneous]
REM [Display]
**

***
Where do I look next?
***

>
>Go to Start | Run | Msconfig, click the Startup tab, and
see what's
>running there.
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>.
>