Internal connections on Sky Sagem router

I've just moved from Virgin to Sky and am a little confused by the
behaviour of my new Sagem Sky router.

I have two computers connected to the router, one running linux, the
other in XP.
I run a web server on the linux machine, and have set up port 80
forwarding in the router to that machine accordingly.

If I'm away from home and put:
http://myWANipadress
into a browser, I see my apache pages being served. Great.

However, if I put:
http://myWANipadress
into my browser on my XP machine, on the LAN, I get taken to the
router's setup web interface. I can't view the web pages being served
by the linux machine on my LAN.

The same is true for my sshd server. I can connect from friend's
houses, but I can't connect from within my own home!

The system worked fine on my old cable router - it must be a config
issue on the Sky router.

What am I doing wrong here?


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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:41:22 +0000, Toby Newman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I've just moved from Virgin to Sky and am a little confused by the
> behaviour of my new Sagem Sky router.
>
> I have two computers connected to the router, one running linux, the
> other in XP.
> I run a web server on the linux machine, and have set up port 80
> forwarding in the router to that machine accordingly.
>
> If I'm away from home and put:
> http://myWANipadress
> into a browser, I see my apache pages being served. Great.
>
> However, if I put:
> http://myWANipadress
> into my browser on my XP machine, on the LAN, I get taken to the
> router's setup web interface. I can't view the web pages being served
> by the linux machine on my LAN.
>
> The same is true for my sshd server. I can connect from friend's
> houses, but I can't connect from within my own home!

Since you set up its port forwarding you know the LAN address of your Linux
server. Use that address from your XP machine, eg: http://192.168.0.10
etc.

> The system worked fine on my old cable router - it must be a config
> issue on the Sky router.
>
> What am I doing wrong here?

Your cable server was redirecting local traffic according to the inward
filter rules but your Sagem does not do that. Both behaviours are valid.

Tony

On 2008-10-26, Anthony R. Gold <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:41:22 +0000, Toby Newman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I've just moved from Virgin to Sky and am a little confused by the
>> behaviour of my new Sagem Sky router.
>>
>> I have two computers connected to the router, one running linux, the
>> other in XP.
>> I run a web server on the linux machine, and have set up port 80
>> forwarding in the router to that machine accordingly.
>>
>> If I'm away from home and put:
>> http://myWANipadress
>> into a browser, I see my apache pages being served. Great.
>>
>> However, if I put:
>> http://myWANipadress
>> into my browser on my XP machine, on the LAN, I get taken to the
>> router's setup web interface. I can't view the web pages being served
>> by the linux machine on my LAN.
>>
>> The same is true for my sshd server. I can connect from friend's
>> houses, but I can't connect from within my own home!
>
> Since you set up its port forwarding you know the LAN address of your Linux
> server. Use that address from your XP machine, eg: http://192.168.0.10
> etc.
>
>> The system worked fine on my old cable router - it must be a config
>> issue on the Sky router.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong here?
>
> Your cable server was redirecting local traffic according to the inward
> filter rules but your Sagem does not do that. Both behaviours are valid.

Thanks. It's a little annoying because if I want to access my local
server from a wireless device I need to have two sets of settings for
home and away. I wonder if there's any way to work around this?

--
-Toby
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:00:02 +0000, Toby Newman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 2008-10-26, Anthony R. Gold <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:41:22 +0000, Toby Newman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just moved from Virgin to Sky and am a little confused by the
>>> behaviour of my new Sagem Sky router.
>>>
>>> I have two computers connected to the router, one running linux, the
>>> other in XP.
>>> I run a web server on the linux machine, and have set up port 80
>>> forwarding in the router to that machine accordingly.
>>>
>>> If I'm away from home and put:
>>> http://myWANipadress
>>> into a browser, I see my apache pages being served. Great.
>>>
>>> However, if I put:
>>> http://myWANipadress
>>> into my browser on my XP machine, on the LAN, I get taken to the
>>> router's setup web interface. I can't view the web pages being served
>>> by the linux machine on my LAN.
>>>
>>> The same is true for my sshd server. I can connect from friend's
>>> houses, but I can't connect from within my own home!
>>
>> Since you set up its port forwarding you know the LAN address of your Linux
>> server. Use that address from your XP machine, eg: http://192.168.0.10
>> etc.
>>
>>> The system worked fine on my old cable router - it must be a config
>>> issue on the Sky router.
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong here?
>>
>> Your cable server was redirecting local traffic according to the inward
>> filter rules but your Sagem does not do that. Both behaviours are valid.
>
> Thanks. It's a little annoying because if I want to access my local
> server from a wireless device I need to have two sets of settings for
> home and away. I wonder if there's any way to work around this?

If you were to access your network by name, and that may involve getting a
free DynDNS account, then you could solve this with an entry into the hosts
file in your XP machine. But I believe by using http://myWANipadress you
are pretty well stuffed so long as you stick with that router.

BTW Sky Broadband gave me a Netgear DG834GT gateway wireless router which
behaves like your cable router in this regard and would do what you want.

Tony