Interesting Netgear experience

I have a Netgear DG834 which recently stopped working. No green (or even
orange) light to indicate existence of ADSL signal, and inability to
reconnect. But the HTML connection to the router appeared to be behaving
otherwise, and it was still connecting the two computers on my LAN.

Log showed it happened around the same time as my electric clock had
stopped, so maybe due to a short power failure (though my computers sailed
through it without falling over).

After much abortive attempts to contact newnet (half an hour of "we are
exceedingly busy, an agent will contact you shortly", which I took to mean
that they were inundated following a general breakdown), I eventually, in
desperation, tried power-cycling the router, and that magically worked.

Hope this hint may be of use to someone.

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...

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> I eventually, in desperation, tried power-cycling the router, and that magically worked.

I don't mean to belittle your router-reviving feat, but it seems turning
it off and back on again is a fairly standard thing to try before
resorting to *actual* desperate measures...

And yes I'm just bitter because my DG834 gave up the ghost in similar
circumstances last week while I was out - I think the thunderstorm had
its way with the modem's electronics, and it refuses to synch now. All
of a week after the 2 year guarantee expired as well!

Anyone got recommendations for a non-netgear replacement? Currently
using an old connexant router that doens't take too kindly to the lofty
heights of 8Mbit...

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Alex Crosby

>
> After much abortive attempts to contact newnet (half an hour of "we are
> exceedingly busy, an agent will contact you shortly", which I took to mean
> that they were inundated following a general breakdown), I eventually, in
> desperation, tried power-cycling the router, and that magically worked.
>
> Hope this hint may be of use to someone.
>
> --
> Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own
> thing------------------------

When that happens to me I normally can't even get into the router setup
page, but a quick power off and its fine again. I put it down to the memory
getting overloaded or just to much activity freezes it up just like a normal
PC and a reboot fixes it.

> When that happens to me I normally can't even get into the router setup
> page, but a quick power off and its fine again. I put it down to the memory
> getting overloaded or just to much activity freezes it up just like a normal
> PC and a reboot fixes it.

They don't run windows on routers...;-)

Dave

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:57:17 GMT, "Charles Lindsey"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have a Netgear DG834 which recently stopped working. No green (or even
>orange) light to indicate existence of ADSL signal, and inability to
>reconnect. But the HTML connection to the router appeared to be behaving
>otherwise, and it was still connecting the two computers on my LAN.
>
>Log showed it happened around the same time as my electric clock had
>stopped, so maybe due to a short power failure (though my computers sailed
>through it without falling over).
>
>After much abortive attempts to contact newnet (half an hour of "we are
>exceedingly busy, an agent will contact you shortly", which I took to mean
>that they were inundated following a general breakdown), I eventually, in
>desperation, tried power-cycling the router, and that magically worked.
>
>Hope this hint may be of use to someone.

I think most people would try the power off/on routine before
attempting to phone anybody :-)
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Well, to be Frank, I'd have to change my name.
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:49:12 +0100, Alex Crosby <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
>
><snip>
>
>> I eventually, in desperation, tried power-cycling the router, and that magically worked.
>
>I don't mean to belittle your router-reviving feat, but it seems turning
>it off and back on again is a fairly standard thing to try before
>resorting to *actual* desperate measures...
>
>And yes I'm just bitter because my DG834 gave up the ghost in similar
>circumstances last week while I was out - I think the thunderstorm had
>its way with the modem's electronics, and it refuses to synch now. All
>of a week after the 2 year guarantee expired as well!
>
>Anyone got recommendations for a non-netgear replacement? Currently
>using an old connexant router that doens't take too kindly to the lofty
>heights of 8Mbit...

Draytek Vigor are good, but pricey.

It cost me almost as much for one from ebay as a new Netgear had cost.

But it is rock solid stable, where the Netgear on my rather long line
had to be rebooted several times per day.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Well, to be Frank, I'd have to change my name.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Charles Lindsey wrote:

> I eventually, in
> desperation, tried power-cycling the router, and that magically worked.

It's not magic.

When you have a power dip - technically commonly referred to as a' brown out' as
opposed to a black out, the internal voltages in the unit sag before going back to
normal. This can corrupt the program memory or all kinds of internal workings.

Power cycling should always be high on the 'to do' list before fretting too much.

Graham

"Alex Heney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:49:12 +0100, Alex Crosby <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> I eventually, in desperation, tried power-cycling the router, and that
>>> magically worked.
>>
>>I don't mean to belittle your router-reviving feat, but it seems turning
>>it off and back on again is a fairly standard thing to try before
>>resorting to *actual* desperate measures...
>>
>>And yes I'm just bitter because my DG834 gave up the ghost in similar
>>circumstances last week while I was out - I think the thunderstorm had
>>its way with the modem's electronics, and it refuses to synch now. All
>>of a week after the 2 year guarantee expired as well!
>>
>>Anyone got recommendations for a non-netgear replacement? Currently
>>using an old connexant router that doens't take too kindly to the lofty
>>heights of 8Mbit...
>
> Draytek Vigor are good, but pricey.
>
> It cost me almost as much for one from ebay as a new Netgear had cost.
>
> But it is rock solid stable, where the Netgear on my rather long line
> had to be rebooted several times per day.
> --
> Alex Heney, Global Villager
> Well, to be Frank, I'd have to change my name.
> To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom


Here's my tuppence worth: My DG834 failed recently after brownout(s)
during a prolonged thunderstorm. The power and test leds flashed
continually. Netgeasr support quickly (24hrs) replied to my e-mail cry for
help. They made several suggestions for more "vigorous" resetting,
escalating to trying to reload firmware. Nothing worked. All the time I was
contacting them through my neighbours DG834? (the wireless version but I was
using ethernet). Clearly it had suffered the same power brownouts without
mishap - so what do you conclude from that? Eventually netgear support
collapsed and suggested I go through their telephone system to "return for
repair" but the call centere wouldn't let me through until I had sat on the
phone in front of my machine and gone through some "procedures to check out
my system".

I bought a new DG834 - v2! It took only minutes to get it up and running.

Question: I have a UPS which protects my PC and monitor. It uses those
"electric kettle" type plugs and sockets and only has 2 power outlets.. How
could I incporporate my router into the protector (it has sufficient power)?
Something like a kettle <-> standard 13A plug/socket adaptor/extension
would be needed but I cannot find such a thing.

Frank

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:44:24 +0100, "Frank Stacey"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>Question: I have a UPS which protects my PC and monitor. It uses those
>"electric kettle" type plugs and sockets and only has 2 power outlets.. How
>could I incporporate my router into the protector (it has sufficient power)?
>Something like a kettle <-> standard 13A plug/socket adaptor/extension
>would be needed but I cannot find such a thing.

You can get power extension leads for the "kettle" type plugs (e.g.
<http://www.cablesandstuff.com/subcatproducts/39/Leads-and-Extension-Leads.htm>

You could then cut that cable near one end, and wire it in to a
standard UK socket type socket.
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> They don't run windows on routers...;-)
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> Dave
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Shush - Bill might hear you !

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