inSSIDer risky download.

inSSIDer requires connecting online to unknown servers with
unknown download in order to install it.

Is this an open source program?

How do we know it does not contain malicious code or download?

netstumbler on the other hand is complete in itself-no risky
downloads from unknown servers/content.

On Sat, 28 May 2011 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC), pop
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>inSSIDer requires connecting online to unknown servers with
>unknown download in order to install it.
>
>Is this an open source program?
>
>How do we know it does not contain malicious code or download?
>
>netstumbler on the other hand is complete in itself-no risky
>downloads from unknown servers/content.

IF you look at the correct site you will find the answer to open
source, and this is where you SHOULD download it from.

http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/

On 5/28/2011 2:42 AM, Bob L wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2011 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC), pop
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> inSSIDer requires connecting online to unknown servers with
>> unknown download in order to install it.
>>
>> Is this an open source program?
>>
>> How do we know it does not contain malicious code or download?
>>
>> netstumbler on the other hand is complete in itself-no risky
>> downloads from unknown servers/content.
> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
> IF you look at the correct site you will find the answer to open
> source, and this is where you SHOULD download it from.
>
> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
>
I agree Bob L, the software does exactly what it claims to do provided
you get it directly from the above host site. Sounds like you were
trying to download it from some place other than from the Metageek web
site. They use it to help promote their web site along with their
commercial products. I'd love to get my hand on a couple of them but at
the present time I can't justify purchasing them.

I tried netstumbler in the past but it did not support the Broadcom
based radio card that came in my laptop. inSSIDer on the other hand was
able to detect and use my wireless card the first time it was run.

I have no connections with the people at Metageek other than I am a
happy user of the inSSIDer program. I use it prior to installing
wireless routers to see what channels are free or have the least amount
of other devices using them. Also nice when troubleshooting a prior
working system that started to go flaky. Too many times I've seen
neighbors add a router or wireless access point near a customer's
location and start causing interference. With inSSIDer I can easily
identify the problem device and change my customer's equipment over to
another channel.

GlowingBlueMist <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:irr8v0$d50$(E-Mail Removed):

> On 5/28/2011 2:42 AM, Bob L wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 May 2011 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC), pop
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> inSSIDer requires connecting online to unknown servers
>>> with unknown download in order to install it.
>>>
>>> Is this an open source program?
>>>
>>> How do we know it does not contain malicious code or
>>> download?
>>>
>>> netstumbler on the other hand is complete in itself-no
>>> risky downloads from unknown servers/content.
>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
>> IF you look at the correct site you will find the answer
>> to open source, and this is where you SHOULD download it
>> from.
>>
>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
>>
> I agree Bob L, the software does exactly what it claims to
> do provided you get it directly from the above host site.
> Sounds like you were trying to download it from some place
> other than from the Metageek web site. They use it to help
> promote their web site along with their commercial
> products. I'd love to get my hand on a couple of them but
> at the present time I can't justify purchasing them.
>
> I tried netstumbler in the past but it did not support the
> Broadcom based radio card that came in my laptop. inSSIDer
> on the other hand was able to detect and use my wireless
> card the first time it was run.
>
> I have no connections with the people at Metageek other
> than I am a happy user of the inSSIDer program. I use it
> prior to installing wireless routers to see what channels
> are free or have the least amount of other devices using
> them. Also nice when troubleshooting a prior working
> system that started to go flaky. Too many times I've seen
> neighbors add a router or wireless access point near a
> customer's location and start causing interference. With
> inSSIDer I can easily identify the problem device and
> change my customer's equipment over to another channel.

All you Inssider promoters still have not answered the
question obviously. You are still having to connect and
download from a site that you have NO FUCKING IDEA what they
will download, nor what they will INSTALL on your computer,
nor what they will do with your IP information. Bad way to
acquire software, I don't care how good YOU think it is.

And this is different from any download from anywhere how?

>
> All you Inssider promoters still have not answered the
> question obviously. You are still having to connect and
> download from a site that you have NO FUCKING IDEA what they
> will download, nor what they will INSTALL on your computer,
> nor what they will do with your IP information. Bad way to
> acquire software, I don't care how good YOU think it is.

On 5/28/2011 7:51 PM, ffffft wrote:

> All you Inssider promoters still have not answered the
> question obviously. You are still having to connect and
> download from a site that you have NO FUCKING IDEA what they
> will download, nor what they will INSTALL on your computer,
> nor what they will do with your IP information. Bad way to
> acquire software, I don't care how good YOU think it is.


How does the tinfoil hat fit? A little too tight?

On Sat, 28 May 2011 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC), pop
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>inSSIDer requires connecting online to unknown servers with
>unknown download in order to install it.

You can download it from the metageek.net web server, or from
download.com at:
<http://download.cnet.com/inSSIDer/3000-2085_4-10848357.html?tag=mncol&cdlPid=10848358>
Neither of these are "unknown" but rather are rather quite well known.
CNET does a rather though job of testing (and reviewing) the software
that appears on its download site.

>Is this an open source program?

Nope. If you want open source, there is Linux, which has several
sniffers and scanners that are open source. Also a live CD loaded
with such tools.

>How do we know it does not contain malicious code or download?

The normal virus, spyware, and malware scanners should suffice to
reduce your paranoia. However, if you are seriously worried, I
suggest one or more of these defenses:
1. Build a machine for the sole purpose of testing downloaded
software. Run it there to see what it does before installing on your
main machine.
2. Install VMware player and run Windoze as a virtual machine.
Install any suspicious software in the VM. If it blows up, just erase
your VM and try again. This is the way I like to test software.
3. Use an image backup program and a USB hard disk to do a backup of
your entire hard disk drive. I use Acronis True Image Home 2011 ($45)
for the purpose. If your machine gets trashed, then just restore from
your latest image.

>netstumbler on the other hand is complete in itself-no risky
>downloads from unknown servers/content.

Netstumbler is old and hasn't been updated for many years. It doesn't
work with Vista and Win7 and doesn't work on 802.11a frequencies.

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Airman Basic <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed) :

>
> And this is different from any download from anywhere how?
>
>>
>> All you Inssider promoters still have not answered the
>> question obviously. You are still having to connect and
>> download from a site that you have NO FUCKING IDEA what
they
>> will download, nor what they will INSTALL on your computer,
>> nor what they will do with your IP information. Bad way to
>> acquire software, I don't care how good YOU think it is.
>

It's different because in order to install the program you
must interface with their servers and take whatever they are
shoveling out or copying from your system. In the case of
netstumbler you can download independent of install and do
virus and other checks on the program. You cannot install
Inssider without allowing their servers to interact with your
computer. You can get netstumbler from many different sources
and compare the downloads. There is no requirement to interact
with a particular server to install further packages or have
them scan your system as there is with Inssider. This is
particularily relevant if you do not have an online good virus
scanner, but even if you do, it's a risky proposition. Same
reason I do not trust Microfuck to auto install their
"updates".
To the other poster, maybe you should get a tin-foil hat, or
better remember to take your anti-psychotics.

Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> On Sat, 28 May 2011 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC), pop
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>inSSIDer requires connecting online to unknown servers with
>>unknown download in order to install it.
>
> You can download it from the metageek.net web server, or
> from download.com at:
> <http://download.cnet.com/inSSIDer/30...-10848357.html
> ?tag=mncol&cdlPid=10848358> Neither of these are "unknown"
> but rather are rather quite well known. CNET does a rather
> though job of testing (and reviewing) the software that
> appears on its download site.
>
>>Is this an open source program?
>
> Nope. If you want open source, there is Linux, which has
> several sniffers and scanners that are open source. Also a
> live CD loaded with such tools.

You have to connect to their servers to INSTALL it after you
download it and you get messages about them scanning your
system to see if it contains the necessary components. You
cannot download a complete package without a secondary connect
to unknown servers with unknown purposes.

This fact and fact it's not open source are enough to stop me
from using this badly conceived program.

On 5/29/2011 13:31, fkjfa wrote:

>
> You have to connect to their servers to INSTALL it after you
> download it and you get messages about them scanning your
> system to see if it contains the necessary components. You
> cannot download a complete package without a secondary connect
> to unknown servers with unknown purposes.
>
> This fact and fact it's not open source are enough to stop me
> from using this badly conceived program.

This is total bullshit. Metageek doesn't do that.
Matybe your warez site does, but if you get your
software that way I hope your computer gets warts.