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trikin
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      10-08-2008, 08:30 AM
I'm looking for professional devices to build point to point. Please
give me name of brand device. Thanks.
 
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      10-08-2008, 11:39 AM
On 8 Pa¼, 13:30, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com>
wrote:
> trikin <lukaszek...@wp.pl> fired this volley in news:7d119813-3a32-4ea7-
> 8a2c-eaaf824fa...@d10g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I'm looking for professional devices to build point to point. Please
> > give me name *of brand device. Thanks.

>
> Ubiquity. *www.ubnt.com
>
> 5KM capability with their PS-2 bridge units. *Low cost, too.
>
> LLoyd


Thanks LLoyd but I am looking better devices or new brand becous I
must build wireless for company (money) so this product must be less
popular but device must be great.
 
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      10-08-2008, 01:44 PM
On 8 Pa¼, 14:57, LR <l...@privacy.net> wrote:
> trikin wrote:
> > On 8 Pa 1/4, 13:30, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com>
> > wrote:
> >> trikin <lukaszek...@wp.pl> fired this volley in news:7d119813-3a32-4ea7-
> >> 8a2c-eaaf824fa...@d10g2000pra.googlegroups.com:

>
> >>> I'm looking for professional devices to build point to point. Please
> >>> give me name of brand device. Thanks.
> >> Ubiquity. www.ubnt.com

>
> >> 5KM capability with their PS-2 bridge units. Low cost, too.

>
> >> LLoyd

>
> > Thanks LLoyd but I am looking better devices or new brand becous I
> > must build wireless for company (money) so this product must be less
> > popular but device must be great.

>
> Perhaps if you gave some idea of exactly what you wish to achieve
> someone may be able to help. For instance-
> 1. What is going to be the working distance.
> 2. What data rate do you hope to achieve 1Mb's or 1Gb's.
> 3. What reliability do you require and do you require a backup if the
> main link goes down.
> 4. Are you constrained by any power limitations or frequency limitations
> in the location you wish to operate the link.


1.Distance 5km
2. 54Mb/s
3.This device should be work 99%a year.
4.Power max 200mW. 5 GHZ 802.11a
 
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      10-08-2008, 03:39 PM
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> trikin <(E-Mail Removed)> fired this volley in news:7d119813-3a32-4ea7-
> 8a2c-(E-Mail Removed):
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>> I'm looking for professional devices to build point to point. Please
>> give me name of brand device. Thanks.
>>

>
> Ubiquity. www.ubnt.com
>
> 5KM capability with their PS-2 bridge units. Low cost, too.


If he can live with 48 Mbps at his end point, the PS2 will work fine.

At the 54 Mbps radio speed setting, the end point experience is only 24
Mbps. If he uses turbo mode, he can double it without sacrificing range
as the receiver sensitivity for 54 Mbps and 108 Mbps is the same, its
just that turbo uses a wider bandwidth aggregation.

90% uptime...wow, that means a daily annual average of 2-1/2 hours
downtime. No matter, the PS2 with internal 19 dBi antennas will give
him at least 25 dB fade margin for as little as around five minutes
daily downtime.
 
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      10-08-2008, 07:53 PM
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 01:30:40 -0700 (PDT), trikin <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>I'm looking for professional devices to build point to point. Please
>give me name of brand device. Thanks.


all the answers so far have suggested 802.11 wireless gear.

if you really need just point to point - maybe you should go and talk
to a local carrier about a link.

they may have point to point fixed microwave support - but if they can
rent you ethernet / dark fibre or SDH do you really care as long as
you get enough bandwidth at good enough reliability and price point?
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      10-08-2008, 10:13 PM
LR wrote:
> Is that 19dBi on top of the +22dBm Tx power? If so it will take him over
> his limit.


What limit?
 
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      10-09-2008, 01:18 AM
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT), trikin <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> > Thanks LLoyd but I am looking better devices or new brand becous I
>> > must build wireless for company (money) so this product must be less
>> > popular but device must be great.

>>
>> Perhaps if you gave some idea of exactly what you wish to achieve
>> someone may be able to help. For instance-
>> 1. What is going to be the working distance.
>> 2. What data rate do you hope to achieve 1Mb's or 1Gb's.
>> 3. What reliability do you require and do you require a backup if the
>> main link goes down.
>> 4. Are you constrained by any power limitations or frequency limitations
>> in the location you wish to operate the link.

>
>1.Distance 5km
>2. 54Mb/s
>3.This device should be work 99%a year.
>4.Power max 200mW. 5 GHZ 802.11a


In Poland you are allowed to use up to a 1W EIRP in outdoor applications in the
channels 149-161 (5.725-5.850GHz).

I have deployed hundreds of Ubiquiti's Nanostations and Powerstations but for
this application I will favour a custom solution using Mikrotik boards, Ubiquiti
radios and MTI integrated antena enclosures. Ubiquiti integrated solutions have
very nice hardware but the software tends to be buggy, even compared with
Mikrotik's RouterOS (much much more capable BTW).

As example you can use a RB411AH routerboard, add a SR5 radio and mount it in a
MT-900007 integrated enclosure with MT-485002 23dB antenna. With this setup
you'll be able to establish connection at 36Mbps while staying into legal limits
dialing down the radios' power to 10dBm.

If you want to connect at 54Mbps then you'll need separate enclosures and 32dB
antennas.

Also you can substitute the board for a RB433AH to be able to install additional
radios/antennas and use Mikrotik's Nstreme Dual for full duplex communication.
 
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      10-09-2008, 12:58 PM
On 9 Oct, 02:18, Yuki <no-re...@nodomain.not> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT), trikin <lukaszek...@wp.pl> wrote:
> >> > Thanks LLoyd but I am looking better devices or new brand becous I
> >> > must build wireless for company (money) so this product must be less
> >> > popular but device must be great.

>
> >> Perhaps if you gave some idea of exactly what you wish to achieve
> >> someone may be able to help. For instance-
> >> 1. What is going to be the working distance.
> >> 2. What data rate do you hope to achieve 1Mb's or 1Gb's.
> >> 3. What reliability do you require and do you require a backup if the
> >> main link goes down.
> >> 4. Are you constrained by any power limitations or frequency limitations
> >> * in the location you wish to operate the link.

>
> >1.Distance 5km
> >2. 54Mb/s
> >3.This device should be work 99%a year.
> >4.Power max 200mW. 5 GHZ 802.11a

>
> In Poland you are allowed to use up to a 1W EIRP in outdoor applications in the
> channels 149-161 (5.725-5.850GHz).
>
> I *have deployed hundreds of Ubiquiti's Nanostations and Powerstations but for
> this application I will favour a custom solution using Mikrotik boards, Ubiquiti
> radios and MTI integrated antena enclosures. Ubiquiti integrated solutions have
> very nice hardware but the software tends to be buggy, even compared with
> Mikrotik's RouterOS (much much more capable BTW).
>
> As example you can use a RB411AH routerboard, add a SR5 radio and mount it in a
> MT-900007 integrated enclosure with MT-485002 23dB antenna. With this setup
> you'll be able to establish connection at 36Mbps while staying into legallimits
> dialing down the radios' power to 10dBm.
>
> If you want to connect at 54Mbps then you'll need separate enclosures and32dB
> antennas.
>
> Also you can substitute the board for a RB433AH to be able to install additional
> radios/antennas and use Mikrotik's Nstreme Dual for full duplex communication.


Thanks - that is very interesting - even though
I did not ask the question
 
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      10-09-2008, 06:00 PM
LR wrote:
> DTC wrote:
>> LR wrote:
>>> Is that 19dBi on top of the +22dBm Tx power? If so it will take him
>>> over his limit.

>>
>> What limit?

> EIRP limits are different in Europe compared to the USA in some of the
> bands. e.g UK
> 2.4GHz 100mw
> 5GHz Band A 200mw
> Band B 1W
> Band C 4W From 2006 to follow the rest of Europe
> The OP has a Polish ISP and probably complies with these same limits.
> Note that he quoted 200mw MAX for his power output.



So in the U.S the limit would be at what???
 
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      10-10-2008, 03:25 PM
LR wrote:
> which is not allowed in the UK.


Ok, that answers my question as to what limits in place.
 
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