Is Ignoring Michael (TKIP) a mad/bad idea?

WPA-TKIP heads on please.

I'm currently debugging someone else's WPA wireless card driver and
having some issues with TKIP MIC failures blocking ubuntu traffic to my
access point. So, in the name of getting the custom build out of the
door, I've disabled MIC checking and the whole thing 'authenticates'
nicely. Phew....

However, the wireless environment that this build is heading for is
someone's house in the midst of suburbia. Will it be reasonly secure out
there, I wonder?

Are the hackers/kiddies really spending much time doing replay attacks
on WPA networks and have I dumbed down security down to the level of
WEP, or worse?

Should I fix, or should it go?

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Adrian C

On 17/06/2010 16:21, Hadron wrote:
> Adrian C<(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>> Should I fix, or should it go?
>
>
> If you can modify drivers I am amazed you are asking this.
>

The source is well commented, syslog is updated and google has plenty of
commentry about people who have followed the same path. This isn't
windows, if it's broken you do have the chance to fix it!

Sure, I'm learning a little about what I'm hacking but diving straight
into the bones of TKIP and WPA security is beyond me at present.

> Using any form of substandard wireless security is dumber than dumb.
>

But is it dumber that WEP? Won't folks see WPA and move on, or will they
try an attack just the same....

OK, think I'm going to have to continue on and fix this.

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Adrian C

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:29:05 -0500, DanS
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Nope, you made the assertion.

You lazy tosser, it's there for all 2 sea

--
vic

On Thursday, June 17th, 2010 at 13:29:05h -0500, DanS wrote:

> Hadron<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:hvdm3f$ve8$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>
>>>> Especially in the light of individuals being prosecuted for what
>>>> others have downloaded from their insecure connections.
>>>
>>> Can you cite a source for this ?
>>
>>
>> Find it yourself.
>
> Nope, you made the assertion.

Rather than thread continue to degenerate with further bickering which is all
certain posters appear to come to this newsgroup to do, and for the benefit
of others reading, here is the story.

From

<http://www.scmagazineuk.COM/german-wifi-owners-are-now-liable-for-what-third-party-users-download-while-connected-to-their-network/article/170061/>

QUOTE

German WiFi owners are now liable for what third party users
download while connected to their network

Internet users in Germany can now be fined up to €100 if a
third party takes advantage of their unprotected WLAN connection
to illegally download music or other files.

According to the Associated Press, Germany's top criminal court
has said that internet users need to secure their private wireless
connections by password to prevent unauthorised people from using
their web access to illegally download data.

However the court stopped short of holding the users responsible
for the illegal content the third party downloads themselves.

UNQUOTE

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:54:28 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thursday, June 17th, 2010 at 13:29:05h -0500, DanS wrote:
>
>> Hadron<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:hvdm3f$ve8$(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>>
>>>>> Especially in the light of individuals being prosecuted for what
>>>>> others have downloaded from their insecure connections.
>Rather than thread continue to degenerate with further bickering which is all
>certain posters appear to come to this newsgroup to do, and for the benefit
>of others reading, here is the story.
>
>From
>
><http://www.scmagazineuk.COM/german-wifi-owners-are-now-liable-for-what-third-party-users-download-while-connected-to-their-network/article/170061/>
>
>QUOTE
>
> German WiFi owners are now liable for what third party users
> download while connected to their network
>
> Internet users in Germany can now be fined up to €100 if a
> third party takes advantage of their unprotected WLAN connection
> to illegally download music or other files.
>
> According to the Associated Press, Germany's top criminal court
> has said that internet users need to secure their private wireless
> connections by password to prevent unauthorised people from using
> their web access to illegally download data.
>
> However the court stopped short of holding the users responsible
> for the illegal content the third party downloads themselves.
What a contrast !!!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06...nsecured_wifi/
[]'s

On 17/06/2010 21:54, J G Miller wrote:
> Rather than thread continue to degenerate with further bickering which is all
> certain posters appear to come to this newsgroup to do,

Hey, I come in peace....

(shoot to kill)

There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
there's Klingons on the starboard bow, scrape 'em off, Jim.

:-)

--
Adrian C

DanS wrote:

> Hadron<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:hvdm3f$ve8$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>
>>>> Especially in the light of individuals being prosecuted
>>>> for what others have downloaded from their insecure
>>>> connections.
>>>
>>> Can you cite a source for this ?
>>
>>
>> Find it yourself.
>
> Nope, you made the assertion.

FYI: The Hadron troll is famous for not backing up his statements, or
offering. any M-ID.

As Mark South said about the troll:

$ sudo aptitude install ounce_of_credibility
aptitude: ounce_of_credibility not found.

Message-ID: <4766d025$(E-Mail Removed)>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Date: 17 Dec 2007

Or:-

You're still an arrogant prick full of himself and your shitty attitude does
far more harm than good.

Meat Plow in reply to HardonQuack
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Message-ID: <(E-Mail Removed)>
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008

--
FreeBSD 8.0 64-bit
Kubuntu 10.04 64-bit
Mandriva 2010 64-bit

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:07:07 +0100, Adrian C <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On 17/06/2010 21:54, J G Miller wrote:
>> Rather than thread continue to degenerate with further bickering which is all
>> certain posters appear to come to this newsgroup to do,
>
>Hey, I come in peace....
>
>(shoot to kill)
>
>There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
>there's Klingons on the starboard bow, scrape 'em off, Jim.

*** scans Adrian with a tricorder ***

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it,
not as we know it,
not as we know it.

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it,
not as we know it,
not as we know it, Captain.

Yes, some of us are dementites here and know our comedy music genre
quite well.

Wayne

--
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:30:13 +1000, Andy <nospam@> wrote:

>That was 'comedy'?

Probably requires that you are familiar with the song being quoted,
Star Trekkin' by The Firm. Each verse is in a different TOS member's
voice (first verse was Uhura, second verse was Spock).

Comedy is not 100% universal, I hate stuff with a passion that others
find funny, much to my befuddlement.

Wayne

--
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.