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jonsey1222
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      09-06-2006, 03:49 PM
I read that if you are using w2k3 server as a domain controller you cannot
use ICS. What is RAS and can I use it to connect all my client computers to
the internet? Would it just be easier to point all the clients to a router?

One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I can ISA,
is that correct?

Thank you
 
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Danny Sanders
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      09-06-2006, 05:00 PM
Use NAT
See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816581/en-us

> One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I can ISA,
> is that correct?


Pretty sure you are correct.

hth
DDS W 2k MVP MCSE

"jonsey1222" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I read that if you are using w2k3 server as a domain controller you cannot
> use ICS. What is RAS and can I use it to connect all my client computers
> to
> the internet? Would it just be easier to point all the clients to a
> router?
>
> One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I can ISA,
> is that correct?
>
> Thank you



 
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jonsey1222
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      09-06-2006, 05:20 PM
Thanks. I read the article. That does tell me how to do it.

One other thing, what is the benefit of using NAT on W2k3 and pointing all
the client computers to it -vs- pointing them to a router? Is W2k3 more
secure?

"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> Use NAT
> See:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816581/en-us
>
> > One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I can ISA,
> > is that correct?

>
> Pretty sure you are correct.
>
> hth
> DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
>
> "jonsey1222" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:69AFB78E-6462-4055-9C02-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I read that if you are using w2k3 server as a domain controller you cannot
> > use ICS. What is RAS and can I use it to connect all my client computers
> > to
> > the internet? Would it just be easier to point all the clients to a
> > router?
> >
> > One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I can ISA,
> > is that correct?
> >
> > Thank you

>
>
>

 
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Phillip Windell
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      09-06-2006, 05:39 PM
ICS is "Home User" (has little to no features and semi-undependable)
RRAS is "Comercial grade" (has reasonable amount of features & abilities
and resonably dependable.

They do the same thing, but ICS is lousy, RRAS is fairly good (my opinion).

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"jonsey1222" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I read that if you are using w2k3 server as a domain controller you cannot
> use ICS. What is RAS and can I use it to connect all my client computers
> to
> the internet? Would it just be easier to point all the clients to a
> router?
>
> One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I can ISA,
> is that correct?
>
> Thank you



 
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Bill Grant
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      09-06-2006, 11:36 PM
Whether you use a hardware router or the server, the basic problem is
that NAT is a problem in a domain setup. NAT routers tend to use DNS relay
to transfer DNS lookups to an external DNS server. This is a disaster in a
domain setup.

So the first thing to do is to set your local DNS server to forward to a
public DNS service. Set all of your machines to use the local DNS only.

Then you decide which device to use as your Internet router. You can use
the server, but using a DC as a router can cause some odd problems. (It
works OK in SBS, but only because the wizards take care of the potential
problems). Whichever device you use, do not enable DNS relay on it.

If you want to use DHCP you need to decide whether to run it on the
router or on the DC. Whichever you decide on, make sure it hands out the
DC's LAN IP as the DNS address.

I would be inclined to leave the DC with a single NIC and use a NAT
router for Internet access. I would disbable DNS relay and DHCP on the NAT
router and run DHCP from the DC, handing out the DC's IP address for DNS and
the router's LAN IP as the default gateway.

jonsey1222 wrote:
> Thanks. I read the article. That does tell me how to do it.
>
> One other thing, what is the benefit of using NAT on W2k3 and
> pointing all the client computers to it -vs- pointing them to a
> router? Is W2k3 more secure?
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> Use NAT
>> See:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816581/en-us
>>
>>> One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I
>>> can ISA, is that correct?

>>
>> Pretty sure you are correct.
>>
>> hth
>> DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
>>
>> "jonsey1222" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:69AFB78E-6462-4055-9C02-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I read that if you are using w2k3 server as a domain controller you
>>> cannot use ICS. What is RAS and can I use it to connect all my
>>> client computers to
>>> the internet? Would it just be easier to point all the clients to a
>>> router?
>>>
>>> One other thing, I am pretty sure I cannot cache pages on w2k3, I
>>> can ISA, is that correct?
>>>
>>> Thank you



 
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