ICS problems in XP

Hi everyone,

Hope someone can help.

I have two pc's , both running XP Pro. ADSL modem for broadband on
machine #1. 8 port hub for network connection.

Using the XP wizard, I set up the network for file and ICS sharing. All
worked fine, but now although the machines can see each other on the
network, and machine 2 ( ICS client ) can control the dialup machine 2
can't access the broadband connection.

I've re-run the network wizard but no joy, and I think I read that you
can only use it a few times before it just causes further problems!

With that in mind, I've posted the ipconfig from both machines. If
anyone can suggest how I can resolve this, please let me know.

Machine 1 - main machine with working BB connection

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Jennings>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

PPP adapter Alcatel Speedtouch Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.129.71.96
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.129.71.96

C:\Documents and Settings\Jennings>



Machine 2 - can access the network, can control the dialup on machine
1, can't access the web:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Family>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.25
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Family>

Thanks in advance - and please remember, I'm a clueless numptie!

I do have an adsl router I'm looking to hook up soon which I understand
would help a great deal, but the room I'm preparing for this isn't
ready yet so I don't want to do all the cabling etc to have to do it
again, so I'd rather try to resurrect the ICS at this stage!

--
Dave Jennings
'89 VS 1400, '99 ZX6R

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:43:39 +0000 (UTC), "Dave Jennings"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>All
>worked fine, but now although the machines can see each other on the
>network, and machine 2 ( ICS client ) can control the dialup machine 2
>can't access the broadband connection.

so you can ping 192.168.0.1 from machine 2 ok ? if so can you ping
212.58.224.122 from machine 2 ? If yes then can you ping www.bbc.co.uk
from 2. If the latter fails but you can ping its IP address then check
the DNS settings on machine 2.

Phil

Hi Phil
>
> so you can ping 192.168.0.1 from machine 2 ok ?

Yes, fine.

if so can you ping
> 212.58.224.122 from machine 2 ?

Nope, request timed out.

>If yes then can you ping www.bbc.co.uk
> from 2. If the latter fails but you can ping its IP address then check
> the DNS settings on machine 2.

<Clueless tw*t mode on>
How would I check the DNS settings, and more importantly what should
they be?

<CTMO>

Thanks!
--
Dave Jennings
'89 VS 1400, '99 ZX6R

"Dave Jennings" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c61je5$20p$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Phil

>> >If yes then can you ping www.bbc.co.uk
> > from 2. If the latter fails but you can ping its IP address then check
> > the DNS settings on machine 2.
>
> <Clueless tw*t mode on>
> How would I check the DNS settings, and more importantly what should
> they be?

If you do "ipconfig /all", the entry for "DNS Server" on the PC that's not
connected to the internet should be either the same as the Default Gateway
(ie the address of the PC that's connected to the internet) or else the same
as the DNS Server entry on the internet-connected PC - I forget which. If
it's any other value that either of those, there's probably a problem.

Martin Underwood wrote:
>
> If you do "ipconfig /all", the entry for "DNS Server" on the PC
> that's not connected to the internet should be either the same as the
> Default Gateway (ie the address of the PC that's connected to the
> internet) or else the same as the DNS Server entry on the
> internet-connected PC - I forget which. If it's any other value that
> either of those, there's probably a problem.

Hi Martin,

my OP shows the various ipconfig listings for both machines, want me to
repost them if you can't see them?


--
Dave Jennings
'89 VS 1400, '99 ZX6R

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:43:58 +0000 (UTC), in uk.comp.home-networking
"Dave Jennings" <(E-Mail Removed)> strung together this:

>Martin Underwood wrote:
>>
>> If you do "ipconfig /all", the entry for "DNS Server" on the PC
>> that's not connected to the internet should be either the same as the
>> Default Gateway (ie the address of the PC that's connected to the
>> internet) or else the same as the DNS Server entry on the
>> internet-connected PC - I forget which. If it's any other value that
>> either of those, there's probably a problem.
>
>Hi Martin,
>
>my OP shows the various ipconfig listings for both machines, want me to
>repost them if you can't see them?
>
ipconfig is what you did, it doesn't list DNS servers. ipconfig /all
is a different command, and it does.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

Lurch wrote:

> >
> ipconfig is what you did, it doesn't list DNS servers. ipconfig /all
> is a different command, and it does.


Thanks for the info!

OK, ipconfig /all shows the following - hope this helps:

Machine 1
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Jennings>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21140-Based PCI Fast
Ethernet
Adapter (Generic)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-67-33-AA-DD
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

PPP adapter Alcatel Speedtouch Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.128.7.227
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.128.7.227
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 213.120.62.101
213.120.62.102

C:\Documents and Settings\Jennings>

Machine 2

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Family>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : p866
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI For Com
plete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-0C-F3-B4
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.108
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 20 April 2004 22:09:20
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 27 April 2004 22:09:20

C:\Documents and Settings\Family>


--
Dave Jennings
'89 VS 1400, '99 ZX6R

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:21:57 +0000 (UTC), "Dave Jennings"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

><Clueless tw*t mode on>
>How would I check the DNS settings, and more importantly what should
>they be?

the later posting showed they were OK. In any case your issue is that
the IP routing to the internet isn't working - because the ping to an
external numerical IP address failed - whereas the DNS would only
apply when trying to ping an alphanumeric address.

Can you ping the external address from the desktop machine ? this will
check if sometihng is stopping pings eg a firewall inc the one XP has
(padlock on the corner of the connection icon, turn it off via the
advanced tab of properties of the conneciton.

Your configs look ok with the possible exception of
"Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net" which AFAIK adds that
onto the end of any DNS requests. Its on the DNS tab of the Advanced
settings of Propoerties of TCP/IP protocol on the network connection
of machnie 2.

If you did have DNS problems you could copy the ISP DNS server
addresses off machine 1 as shown in ipconfiog /all - but that won't
hlep if it isn't routing.

Phil

Phil Thompson wrote:

>
> the later posting showed they were OK.

Hi Phil,

Thanks for the info. I bit the bullet, bought an adls modem/router and
everythings tickety boo now thanks!

--
Dave Jennings
'89 VS 1400, '99 ZX6R