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Jordan Samulaitis
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      01-17-2005, 04:56 AM
Hello everyone,

I am currently testing VPN connectivity.

This is my current test lab.

- 1 Windows server 2003 standard edition with 1 network card
- Services - DNS/DHCP/IIS/RRAS/IAS all on the one server.
- 1 Windows XP workstation with 1 network card

What I did first was setup RRAS and DHCP Relay agent. created a VPNUser
account, and successfully logged on via PPTP. All fine and dandy.

When it came down to try L2TP, I knew I had to install IAS and certificate
services in order for the server to give out certificates and to have a
centralized logon, I authorized IAS into active directory and so on. what
seems to happen is whenever I install IAS and start the service, when I
reboot my workstation it does not see the server nor the domain, even when I
try to ping the ip address it says timed out. Any reason for this? I know
on the MS website in the VPN lab, they were using four servers, one for IIS,
IAS, RRAS, DNS, DHCP.

Is it because I have only one network card??? What could be my problems?
Can I still setup L2TP connections without IAS ??

Thanks in advance,

Jordan


 
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Janani V
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      01-17-2005, 05:23 AM
You can use L2TP with preshared key.

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"Jordan Samulaitis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23ffXDlF$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am currently testing VPN connectivity.
>
> This is my current test lab.
>
> - 1 Windows server 2003 standard edition with 1 network card
> - Services - DNS/DHCP/IIS/RRAS/IAS all on the one server.
> - 1 Windows XP workstation with 1 network card
>
> What I did first was setup RRAS and DHCP Relay agent. created a VPNUser
> account, and successfully logged on via PPTP. All fine and dandy.
>
> When it came down to try L2TP, I knew I had to install IAS and certificate
> services in order for the server to give out certificates and to have a
> centralized logon, I authorized IAS into active directory and so on. what
> seems to happen is whenever I install IAS and start the service, when I
> reboot my workstation it does not see the server nor the domain, even when
> I
> try to ping the ip address it says timed out. Any reason for this? I know
> on the MS website in the VPN lab, they were using four servers, one for
> IIS,
> IAS, RRAS, DNS, DHCP.
>
> Is it because I have only one network card??? What could be my problems?
> Can I still setup L2TP connections without IAS ??
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jordan
>
>



 
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Steven L Umbach
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      01-17-2005, 06:22 AM
What do you mean it can not see the domain - through a VPN connection or
otherwise??

You do not have to use IAS. It is convenient if you have multiple rras
servers in that you can configure Remote Access Policies on just the IAS
server. So you may want to try to do without the IAS server until problems
are resolved to rule it out as a problem.As far as certificates, you may
first want to test with preshared key assuming you have an XP VPN client.
When you install certificates, you need to install computer certificates on
both the VPN client and VPN server. If IAS will be used, then the IAS server
will need a computer certificate [or IAS/RAS certificate] or pre shared key
if used [recommended for testing ONLY]. Keep in mind that since L2TP uses
ipsec that it will not work over a NAT connection unless you have the NAT-T
client installed on the VPN client. Also any firewalls have to allow L2TP
traffic that uses different ports/protocols that pptp such as 1701 UDP, 500
UDP, and 4500 UDP [NAT-T]. Also protocol 50 for ESP needs to be allowed. The
link below also explains the new behavior for NAT-T in Windows XP Service
Pack 2 which may need a registry mod to get it to work. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;885407

"Jordan Samulaitis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23ffXDlF$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am currently testing VPN connectivity.
>
> This is my current test lab.
>
> - 1 Windows server 2003 standard edition with 1 network card
> - Services - DNS/DHCP/IIS/RRAS/IAS all on the one server.
> - 1 Windows XP workstation with 1 network card
>
> What I did first was setup RRAS and DHCP Relay agent. created a VPNUser
> account, and successfully logged on via PPTP. All fine and dandy.
>
> When it came down to try L2TP, I knew I had to install IAS and certificate
> services in order for the server to give out certificates and to have a
> centralized logon, I authorized IAS into active directory and so on. what
> seems to happen is whenever I install IAS and start the service, when I
> reboot my workstation it does not see the server nor the domain, even when
> I
> try to ping the ip address it says timed out. Any reason for this? I know
> on the MS website in the VPN lab, they were using four servers, one for
> IIS,
> IAS, RRAS, DNS, DHCP.
>
> Is it because I have only one network card??? What could be my problems?
> Can I still setup L2TP connections without IAS ??
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jordan
>
>



 
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Jordan Samulaitis
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      01-17-2005, 07:47 PM
I am assuming I have certificate services installed on my workstation, ive
been using this one for a while..

So you are basicaly saying

Enable Routing and Remote access.
Configure a VPN thru the wizard
Configure the DHCP Relay Agent
Install Certificate services
goto http://server/certsrv on the workstation
and click auto enroll?
Configure the VPN connectoid and set it for l2tp connections?

if that is the case I have done that and still was unsuccessful.

Regards,
Jordna

"Steven L Umbach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%233aVvUG$(E-Mail Removed)...
> What do you mean it can not see the domain - through a VPN connection or
> otherwise??
>
> You do not have to use IAS. It is convenient if you have multiple rras
> servers in that you can configure Remote Access Policies on just the IAS
> server. So you may want to try to do without the IAS server until problems
> are resolved to rule it out as a problem.As far as certificates, you may
> first want to test with preshared key assuming you have an XP VPN client.
> When you install certificates, you need to install computer certificates

on
> both the VPN client and VPN server. If IAS will be used, then the IAS

server
> will need a computer certificate [or IAS/RAS certificate] or pre shared

key
> if used [recommended for testing ONLY]. Keep in mind that since L2TP uses
> ipsec that it will not work over a NAT connection unless you have the

NAT-T
> client installed on the VPN client. Also any firewalls have to allow L2TP
> traffic that uses different ports/protocols that pptp such as 1701 UDP,

500
> UDP, and 4500 UDP [NAT-T]. Also protocol 50 for ESP needs to be allowed.

The
> link below also explains the new behavior for NAT-T in Windows XP Service
> Pack 2 which may need a registry mod to get it to work. --- Steve
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;885407
>
> "Jordan Samulaitis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%23ffXDlF$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am currently testing VPN connectivity.
> >
> > This is my current test lab.
> >
> > - 1 Windows server 2003 standard edition with 1 network card
> > - Services - DNS/DHCP/IIS/RRAS/IAS all on the one server.
> > - 1 Windows XP workstation with 1 network card
> >
> > What I did first was setup RRAS and DHCP Relay agent. created a VPNUser
> > account, and successfully logged on via PPTP. All fine and dandy.
> >
> > When it came down to try L2TP, I knew I had to install IAS and

certificate
> > services in order for the server to give out certificates and to have a
> > centralized logon, I authorized IAS into active directory and so on.

what
> > seems to happen is whenever I install IAS and start the service, when I
> > reboot my workstation it does not see the server nor the domain, even

when
> > I
> > try to ping the ip address it says timed out. Any reason for this? I

know
> > on the MS website in the VPN lab, they were using four servers, one for
> > IIS,
> > IAS, RRAS, DNS, DHCP.
> >
> > Is it because I have only one network card??? What could be my

problems?
> > Can I still setup L2TP connections without IAS ??
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Jordan
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Steven L Umbach
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      01-22-2005, 12:50 AM
Sorry for the delay, due to inclement weather and my cable company's level
of customer service I was offline since Monday.

Yes you need a computer certificate on both the VPN and/or IAS server and
the VPN client computer for lt2p. You can request one via Web Enrollment as
you suggest for your VPN client but be sure to request the offline ipsec
certificate. You will have to configure your CA to use that template first
in the CA mmc console. Then be sure to select to store the certificate in
the computer store. You will also need to verify that the CA's certificate
is in the VPN client's trusted root store via certificates mmc snapin for
computer. That can easily be exported to a .cer file and imported to other
computers or also requested via Web Enrollment --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;323342 -- this may
help

"Jordan Samulaitis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uFl1FXN$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am assuming I have certificate services installed on my workstation, ive
> been using this one for a while..
>
> So you are basicaly saying
>
> Enable Routing and Remote access.
> Configure a VPN thru the wizard
> Configure the DHCP Relay Agent
> Install Certificate services
> goto http://server/certsrv on the workstation
> and click auto enroll?
> Configure the VPN connectoid and set it for l2tp connections?
>
> if that is the case I have done that and still was unsuccessful.
>
> Regards,
> Jordna
>
> "Steven L Umbach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%233aVvUG$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> What do you mean it can not see the domain - through a VPN connection or
>> otherwise??
>>
>> You do not have to use IAS. It is convenient if you have multiple rras
>> servers in that you can configure Remote Access Policies on just the IAS
>> server. So you may want to try to do without the IAS server until
>> problems
>> are resolved to rule it out as a problem.As far as certificates, you may
>> first want to test with preshared key assuming you have an XP VPN client.
>> When you install certificates, you need to install computer certificates

> on
>> both the VPN client and VPN server. If IAS will be used, then the IAS

> server
>> will need a computer certificate [or IAS/RAS certificate] or pre shared

> key
>> if used [recommended for testing ONLY]. Keep in mind that since L2TP uses
>> ipsec that it will not work over a NAT connection unless you have the

> NAT-T
>> client installed on the VPN client. Also any firewalls have to allow L2TP
>> traffic that uses different ports/protocols that pptp such as 1701 UDP,

> 500
>> UDP, and 4500 UDP [NAT-T]. Also protocol 50 for ESP needs to be allowed.

> The
>> link below also explains the new behavior for NAT-T in Windows XP Service
>> Pack 2 which may need a registry mod to get it to work. --- Steve
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;885407
>>
>> "Jordan Samulaitis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%23ffXDlF$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> > I am currently testing VPN connectivity.
>> >
>> > This is my current test lab.
>> >
>> > - 1 Windows server 2003 standard edition with 1 network card
>> > - Services - DNS/DHCP/IIS/RRAS/IAS all on the one server.
>> > - 1 Windows XP workstation with 1 network card
>> >
>> > What I did first was setup RRAS and DHCP Relay agent. created a
>> > VPNUser
>> > account, and successfully logged on via PPTP. All fine and dandy.
>> >
>> > When it came down to try L2TP, I knew I had to install IAS and

> certificate
>> > services in order for the server to give out certificates and to have a
>> > centralized logon, I authorized IAS into active directory and so on.

> what
>> > seems to happen is whenever I install IAS and start the service, when I
>> > reboot my workstation it does not see the server nor the domain, even

> when
>> > I
>> > try to ping the ip address it says timed out. Any reason for this? I

> know
>> > on the MS website in the VPN lab, they were using four servers, one for
>> > IIS,
>> > IAS, RRAS, DNS, DHCP.
>> >
>> > Is it because I have only one network card??? What could be my

> problems?
>> > Can I still setup L2TP connections without IAS ??
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Jordan
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



 
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