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phil-news-nospam@ipal.net
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      08-14-2007, 06:12 PM
Anyone know what HP screwed up on the DC7700 series computers that prevents
Linux from coming up unless ACPI is completely shut off?

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      08-14-2007, 10:25 PM
phil-news-(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Anyone know what HP screwed up on the DC7700 series computers that prevents
> Linux from coming up unless ACPI is completely shut off?


No, but the output of dmesg will give you some instructions on commands to run and where to send the
output. Keeping the ACPI code working with the brain-dead BIOS's in new machines is a full-time
activity. Your output will help them fix Linux to work with that machine.

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      08-15-2007, 03:02 AM
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:25:17 GMT Larry Finger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
| phil-news-(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
|> Anyone know what HP screwed up on the DC7700 series computers that prevents
|> Linux from coming up unless ACPI is completely shut off?
|
| No, but the output of dmesg will give you some instructions on commands to run and where to send the
| output. Keeping the ACPI code working with the brain-dead BIOS's in new machines is a full-time
| activity. Your output will help them fix Linux to work with that machine.

In what system will dmesg tell me where to send its output? On normal
machines, dmesg gives me recent kernel printk output, but nothing about
where to send stuff. And I assume what they want is the output with
ACPI off ... since I can't run dmesg with it on since the kernel does
not make it all the way up to start userland.

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      08-15-2007, 04:28 AM
phil-news-(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:25:17 GMT Larry Finger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> | phil-news-(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> |> Anyone know what HP screwed up on the DC7700 series computers that prevents
> |> Linux from coming up unless ACPI is completely shut off?
> |
> | No, but the output of dmesg will give you some instructions on commands to run and where to send the
> | output. Keeping the ACPI code working with the brain-dead BIOS's in new machines is a full-time
> | activity. Your output will help them fix Linux to work with that machine.
>
> In what system will dmesg tell me where to send its output? On normal
> machines, dmesg gives me recent kernel printk output, but nothing about
> where to send stuff. And I assume what they want is the output with
> ACPI off ... since I can't run dmesg with it on since the kernel does
> not make it all the way up to start userland.


Your original message implied that your computer did come up with ACPI off. In that case, you would
get dmesg output. On one system that I have been helping debug a problem, the dmesg output includes
the following:

ACPI: System BIOS is requesting _OSI(Linux)
ACPI: Please test with "acpi_osi=!Linux"
Please send dmidecode to linux-(E-Mail Removed)

If your ACPI is broken, it should be issuing this, or similar, messages.

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      08-15-2007, 12:10 PM
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:28:05 GMT Larry Finger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
| phil-news-(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
|> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:25:17 GMT Larry Finger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
|> | phil-news-(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
|> |> Anyone know what HP screwed up on the DC7700 series computers that prevents
|> |> Linux from coming up unless ACPI is completely shut off?
|> |
|> | No, but the output of dmesg will give you some instructions on commands to run and where to send the
|> | output. Keeping the ACPI code working with the brain-dead BIOS's in new machines is a full-time
|> | activity. Your output will help them fix Linux to work with that machine.
|>
|> In what system will dmesg tell me where to send its output? On normal
|> machines, dmesg gives me recent kernel printk output, but nothing about
|> where to send stuff. And I assume what they want is the output with
|> ACPI off ... since I can't run dmesg with it on since the kernel does
|> not make it all the way up to start userland.
|
| Your original message implied that your computer did come up with ACPI off. In that case, you would
| get dmesg output. On one system that I have been helping debug a problem, the dmesg output includes
| the following:
|
| ACPI: System BIOS is requesting _OSI(Linux)
| ACPI: Please test with "acpi_osi=!Linux"
| Please send dmidecode to linux-(E-Mail Removed)
|
| If your ACPI is broken, it should be issuing this, or similar, messages.

I rebuilt a kernel without ACPI because I will be running it via PXE without
an interactive prompt. Would it still work that way? I should have a chance
to test it today, anyway.

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