Hp 4170 Pavillion; How do I install new wireless card?

Okay, HP sent me a new wireless card because of problems I'm having
with the wireless indicator light. They did this under warrannty. I'm
suprized that they sent it to merather than ask me to send it back to
them. The guy described where it is. He said it was under a panel that
had one screw This sort of coincides with what Jeff told me; near the
corner near the hinge. I opened that panel and found a copper heat
sink and under it was the processor. I stil am at a los for where the
hel is the wiress card. I was really uncomfortable mucking with the
intel processor.
M

Unless of course the card that I saw under that panel was i n fact the
wireles card. The card said 1.73 Intel (or something to that effect
and that is what I have, a 1.73 G Hz Centrino. Any help is is geatly
appreciated. I can call HP again but it will take hoursto get the
right answer.
M

"mstrspy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Okay, HP sent me a new wireless card because of problems I'm having
> with the wireless indicator light. They did this under warrannty. I'm
> suprized that they sent it to merather than ask me to send it back to
> them. The guy described where it is. He said it was under a panel that
> had one screw This sort of coincides with what Jeff told me; near the
> corner near the hinge. I opened that panel and found a copper heat
> sink and under it was the processor. I stil am at a los for where the
> hel is the wiress card. I was really uncomfortable mucking with the
> intel processor.
> M
>

Hi,

I don't own this laptop, but I searched on the HP website and found a
"maintenance and service guide" PDF that may be of use to you (link below).
Section 5.8 (page 122) might be what you need.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/m...lang=en&cc=us&

Good luck.

- Chuck

Where I live it was 2/8/2006 10:07 PM, when mstrspy wrote:
> Okay, HP sent me a new wireless card because of problems I'm having
> with the wireless indicator light. They did this under warrannty. I'm
> suprized that they sent it to merather than ask me to send it back to
> them. The guy described where it is. He said it was under a panel that
> had one screw This sort of coincides with what Jeff told me; near the
> corner near the hinge. I opened that panel and found a copper heat
> sink and under it was the processor. I stil am at a los for where the
> hel is the wiress card. I was really uncomfortable mucking with the
> intel processor.
> M

Go to http://www.hp.com and download a copy of the Maintenance and
Service Guide for your notebook. Look for the wireless mini PCI
compartment in the guide.

Or here's the whole secret:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00530488.pdf
Look at pages 1-24 and 1-25.

Chuck: Than you very much for tha tlink. i looked at the diagram and
now I know hoe to procede. i was dissapointed to see that since I
removed the heat sink and discovered the processr under it, I should
have removed and reinsalled thermal paste. Not sure how bad it is
without doing that, there is a certain amount of preload on ther
processor form the heat sink screws.
The guy from HP really missled me into removing the wrong panel.

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:38:49 -0600, "Chuck G." <nospam@nospam> wrote:

>"mstrspy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> Okay, HP sent me a new wireless card because of problems I'm having
>> with the wireless indicator light. They did this under warrannty. I'm
>> suprized that they sent it to merather than ask me to send it back to
>> them. The guy described where it is. He said it was under a panel that
>> had one screw This sort of coincides with what Jeff told me; near the
>> corner near the hinge. I opened that panel and found a copper heat
>> sink and under it was the processor. I stil am at a los for where the
>> hel is the wiress card. I was really uncomfortable mucking with the
>> intel processor.
>> M
>>
>
>Hi,
>
>I don't own this laptop, but I searched on the HP website and found a
>"maintenance and service guide" PDF that may be of use to you (link below).
>Section 5.8 (page 122) might be what you need.
>
>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/m...lang=en&cc=us&
>
>Good luck.
>
>- Chuck
>
>

Thanks, I found the manual. My next question is how much damage did I
do by removing the heat sink and reinstalling without cleaning and
reinstalling thermal paste.
If it blows up, as far as I'm concerned, it is HP's fault for
insructing meto remove the wrong panel. Te sent me a card with no
instructions, just remove the panel with one screw. They were wrong.

M

On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:01:54 -0500, Plan9 <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Where I live it was 2/8/2006 10:07 PM, when mstrspy wrote:
>> Okay, HP sent me a new wireless card because of problems I'm having
>> with the wireless indicator light. They did this under warrannty. I'm
>> suprized that they sent it to merather than ask me to send it back to
>> them. The guy described where it is. He said it was under a panel that
>> had one screw This sort of coincides with what Jeff told me; near the
>> corner near the hinge. I opened that panel and found a copper heat
>> sink and under it was the processor. I stil am at a los for where the
>> hel is the wiress card. I was really uncomfortable mucking with the
>> intel processor.
>> M
>
>Go to http://www.hp.com and download a copy of the Maintenance and
>Service Guide for your notebook. Look for the wireless mini PCI
>compartment in the guide.
>
>Or here's the whole secret:
>http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00530488.pdf
>Look at pages 1-24 and 1-25.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 03:24:22 GMT, mstrspy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Unless of course the card that I saw under that panel was i n fact the
>wireles card. The card said 1.73 Intel (or something to that effect
>and that is what I have, a 1.73 G Hz Centrino. Any help is is geatly
>appreciated. I can call HP again but it will take hoursto get the
>right answer.

I lied. That's the CPU. Unfortunately, of the two doors on the
bottom of the laptop, HP put the CPU in the corner instead of the
MiniPCI card as I previously indicated. Sorry.

Close that cover and unscrew the large panel next to the bar coded
serial number tag. It should have the MiniPCI card and memory
underneath.
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00530488.pdf
See Table 1-11.

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"mstrspy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Chuck: Than you very much for tha tlink. i looked at the diagram and
> now I know hoe to procede. i was dissapointed to see that since I
> removed the heat sink and discovered the processr under it, I should
> have removed and reinsalled thermal paste. Not sure how bad it is
> without doing that, there is a certain amount of preload on ther
> processor form the heat sink screws.
> The guy from HP really missled me into removing the wrong panel.
>


I haven't used thermal paste in a long time and I'd really have to look at
it to give you a good answer, but I'd say that you might be OK if the paste
was still gooey. If it was dry and cracked, then it probably should be
cleaned off and reapplied. From my experience with notebooks, they need all
of the cooling help that they can get. Hopefully someone else here can give
you a better answer.

- Chuck

Actually I didn't realize ther was any paste at all. Wasn't sticky.
I'm going to bet that it will be okay. The whole assembly seems to get
compressed when I screwed dont the heat sink.

I'm still going to bitch at HP for giving me a bum stear. May e they
will send me some thermal paste to reistal the thing properly.
M


On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:09:53 -0600, "Chuck G." <nospam@nospam> wrote:

>"mstrspy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> Chuck: Than you very much for tha tlink. i looked at the diagram and
>> now I know hoe to procede. i was dissapointed to see that since I
>> removed the heat sink and discovered the processr under it, I should
>> have removed and reinsalled thermal paste. Not sure how bad it is
>> without doing that, there is a certain amount of preload on ther
>> processor form the heat sink screws.
>> The guy from HP really missled me into removing the wrong panel.
>>
>
>
>I haven't used thermal paste in a long time and I'd really have to look at
>it to give you a good answer, but I'd say that you might be OK if the paste
>was still gooey. If it was dry and cracked, then it probably should be
>cleaned off and reapplied. From my experience with notebooks, they need all
>of the cooling help that they can get. Hopefully someone else here can give
>you a better answer.
>
>- Chuck
>

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:54:25 GMT, mstrspy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Thanks, I found the manual. My next question is how much damage did I
>do by removing the heat sink and reinstalling without cleaning and
>reinstalling thermal paste.
>If it blows up, as far as I'm concerned, it is HP's fault for
>insructing meto remove the wrong panel. Te sent me a card with no
>instructions, just remove the panel with one screw. They were wrong.

Learn by Destroying(tm).

There's an art to applying the thermal grease. The trick is to use as
little as possible and only use it to fill in the gouges, roughness,
and scratches in the metal. Wipe the excess silicon grease from both
the CPU and the heatsink with a rag. Towel paper will work if it
doesn't spew any lint. Use alcohol if it's slightly hardened.

If you don't have any silicon grease available (Radio Shock carries
it), try to re-use some of the excess that was already on the CPU. You
may need to loosen it with a little alcohol. I don't recommend
re-using silicon grease as dirt and dust in the grease causes big
problems. However, as this is a new laptop, you might be able to get
away with it if the grease is clean. Still, I strongly suggest you
get some clean silicon grease heat sink compound.

Put a very small amount of silicon grease on one finger tip and smear
it on both the heatsink and CPU. Use as little as possible. Don't
worry about slopping some over the edge of the CPU. You should be
able to see the heatsink metal through the layer of silicon grease. A
blob about the size of "BB" shot is about twice too much.

Now, wipe the excess from your fingers or you will have white greasy
spots on your new laptop. Use alcohol to cleanup. Keep the alcohol
away from the plastic parts and labels or they will be trashed. Wash
your hands or the alcohol on your fingertips may ruin the keyboard
screening.

Put the CPU back and fasten the retaining clips or screws. Close lid.
You're done.



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