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The Natural Philosopher
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      07-23-2008, 02:42 PM
Mortimer wrote:
> "Mal F" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> In article <qeGdnVAeW-(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
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>>> Fully understand the "You're not boring more holes in the walls" effect!
>>>
>>> There is a case to be made that data cabling has become a commodity
>>> service requirement in the same way as water pipes and mains electricity
>>> wiring. It's a real pain to instal, but once it's done, that's it.
>>> Homeplugs may have a function as a quick bodge to get some kind of
>>> service, but I don't think they should be regarded as any sort of longer
>>> term option. You will be one of the fortunate ones in that your
>>> installation isn't radiating significantly. Another house - another
>>> situation. YMMV.

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>> Well if i could get my way every power socket in all new house builds
>> should have a network point close to it and a switch in the loft or
>> under the stairs.
>>
>> Unfortunately our house was built in 1885 with solid walls and nowhere
>> to hide cables without having to dig channels into the plaster and then
>> replaster afterwards and being an old house there's a lot more work
>> needing to be done on our house of a much higher priority.

>
> Even my house built in 2000 doesn't have Cat5 installed. It has TV aerial
> and phone sockets in the living room and one (but not all) of the bedrooms,
> but no Cat5. Only one of the new houses that I looked round at the same as
> was chosing mine had Cat 5, and I remember commenting to the saleswoman
> "what an excellent idea".
>


Mine does. I installed it. Also got a load of alarm wires..must install
an alarm..but thenm the house is never left unoccupied these days.



> Mind you, my house has thin enough walls that a wireless router in one
> bedroom provides coverage everywhere - plus to the bottom of the garden and
> across the car-parking area.
>
>

Wouldn't work here., Chicken wire and render everywhere.

 
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      07-23-2008, 02:45 PM
kraftee wrote:
> Occam wrote:
>> Homeplug/
>> Anyone tred them? Any good?
>> Any speed improvement ?
>> Cheers

>
> Use them virtually everyday with little, if any problems...
>
>

That was more or less the consensus on UK.d-i-y: either they wont work
at all..some RCD trips seem to block the signals, or they work pretty well.


Cat 5 is optimal, but its a costly thing to do neatly as an add on.

Althou8gh you can route it outside the building and in through window
frames and the like
 
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      07-23-2008, 05:36 PM
John Livingston <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Occam wrote:
> > Homeplug/
> > Anyone tred them? Any good?
> > Any speed improvement ?
> > Cheers

>
> There are some rather alarming reports about the radio interference
> these things can produce. It seems that OFCOM are looking into some of
> the problems these cause.


Thanks for this thread. Perhaps I won't install them in the house with the
huge amateur radio mast across the road

> These things are apparently CE approved, but the approval will have been
> done by testing in ideal conditions.


Just FYI, a CE mark doesn't necessarily mean that anyone's tested anything.
The manufacturer can self-certify by slapping on a CE mark to say that 'the
device meets EU regulations' - exactly what regulations depends on the
device (children's teddies are tested for sharp parts, but not for EMI).
Dodgy (Chinese?) manufacturers are doing this and then settling out of
court or doing a runner if the device fails in some way.

It's only if the mark says something like 'CE 0120' that the tests have been
done by an external Notified Body. The number tells you who it was.

Theo
 
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      07-23-2008, 09:09 PM
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:09:30 +0100, Mortimer wrote:

> Even my house built in 2000 doesn't have Cat5 installed. It has TV
> aerial and phone sockets in the living room and one (but not all) of the
> bedrooms, but no Cat5.


Get yourself a mini DSLAM then ;-)

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