Homeplug problems

Last night, I had no problems using my Billion Bipac enabled homeplug
router with solwise homeplugs. I set up my brother with Devolo 85 mbps
plugs, and again, up until late last night, no problems.

This morning, neither of us can get a peep out of our respective homeplug
setups. I've been through the obvious checking cables, passwords, swapping
out spare homeplugs etc, and instructed him to do the same - no joy.

If I connect directly to the homeplug enabled router and scan for devices,
they are visible, but with a 0mbps data rate. Using a direct connection,
no Internet or XBOX360 problems.

Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?

I'm beginning to suspect that it *could* be some kind of issue with mains
power conditioning, i.e. that there's been a qualitative change to the
mains supply, and the plugs can no longer correctly add / extract whatever
high-freq. signal they use to transmit data.

We use different OS (WinXP / Linux), different broadband systems (ADSL /
Virgin), different homeplugs (Solwise + Bipac / Devolo) and are
geographically distant (Gateshead / Matlock).

Anyone have any clues?

Sean Inglis writes:
> This morning, neither of us can get a peep out of our respective homeplug
> setups. I've been through the obvious checking cables, passwords, swapping
> out spare homeplugs etc, and instructed him to do the same - no joy.
>
> If I connect directly to the homeplug enabled router and scan for devices,
> they are visible, but with a 0mbps data rate. Using a direct connection,
> no Internet or XBOX360 problems.

Was there any lightning or power surges around your area recently?

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Last night, I had no problems using my Billion Bipac enabled homeplug
> router with solwise homeplugs. I set up my brother with Devolo 85 mbps
> plugs, and again, up until late last night, no problems.
>
> This morning, neither of us can get a peep out of our respective homeplug
> setups. I've been through the obvious checking cables, passwords, swapping
> out spare homeplugs etc, and instructed him to do the same - no joy.
>
> If I connect directly to the homeplug enabled router and scan for devices,
> they are visible, but with a 0mbps data rate. Using a direct connection,
> no Internet or XBOX360 problems.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?
>
> I'm beginning to suspect that it *could* be some kind of issue with mains
> power conditioning, i.e. that there's been a qualitative change to the
> mains supply, and the plugs can no longer correctly add / extract whatever
> high-freq. signal they use to transmit data.
>
> We use different OS (WinXP / Linux), different broadband systems (ADSL /
> Virgin), different homeplugs (Solwise + Bipac / Devolo) and are
> geographically distant (Gateshead / Matlock).

I'm in Noriwch using 85Mbps solwise homeplugs, all working fine. Sorry
that's not helpful, but it's not a nationwide issue.
--
Regards
Jon

On Feb 10, 12:21*pm, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
> In article <6184crF1t98v...@mid.individual.net>,
> spamt...@seani.justemail.net says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Last night, I had no problems using my Billion Bipac enabled homeplug
> > router with solwise homeplugs. I set up my brother with Devolo 85 mbps
> > plugs, and again, up until late last night, no problems.
>
> > This morning, neither of us can get a peep out of our respective homeplug
> > setups. I've been through the obvious checking cables, passwords, swapping
> > out spare homeplugs etc, and instructed him to do the same - no joy.
>
> > If I connect directly to the homeplug enabled router and scan for devices,
> > they are visible, but with a 0mbps data rate. Using a direct connection,
> > no Internet or XBOX360 problems.
>
> > Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?
>
> > I'm beginning to suspect that it *could* be some kind of issue with mains
> > power conditioning, i.e. that there's been a qualitative change to the
> > mains supply, and the plugs can no longer correctly add / extract whatever
> > high-freq. signal they use to transmit data.
>
> > We use different OS (WinXP / Linux), different broadband systems (ADSL /
> > Virgin), different homeplugs (Solwise + Bipac / Devolo) and are
> > geographically distant (Gateshead / Matlock).
>
> I'm in Noriwch using 85Mbps solwise homeplugs, all working fine. Sorry
> that's not helpful, but it's not a nationwide issue.
> --
> Regards
> Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks, it does add to the picture.

I have an 85mbps netricity hub and it seems as if the previously
cordial relationship it had with the 14mpbs Bipac HUB+ADLS modem I
have as a gateway has dissolved overnight - no configuration or
cabling changes of any kind. If I run a cable from the Bipac to the
Netricity hub, I can use the Netricity hub to share the connection in
on room, with the Powerline side of things out of the equation.

Nothing I can do seems to let the two talk to one another now - ho-
hum.

My brothers problem now looks unrelated - through various patch cables
and messing around with his PS3 connection, we've established that the
Devolo adaptors and any cabling work perfectly. His network card is
now under suspiscion and he's just gone for a replacement at PCWorld.
In true it-never-rains-but-it-pours fashion, the tills at PC world
were down and after serving four people in front of him, the manager
refused to sell the card. This prompted him to put £15 on the counter
and walk out with the network card. There *was* a security guard, but
he didn't seem interested in getting involved.

On Feb 10, 11:57*am, Sam <a...@ng.invalid> wrote:
> Sean Inglis writes:
> > This morning, neither of us can get a peep out of our respective homeplug
> > setups. I've been through the obvious checking cables, passwords, swapping
> > out spare homeplugs etc, and instructed him to do the same - no joy.
>
> > If I connect directly to the homeplug enabled router and scan for devices,
> > they are visible, but with a 0mbps data rate. Using a direct connection,
> > no Internet or XBOX360 problems.
>
> Was there any lightning or power surges around your area recently?

Not as far as I know, but it now looks like two separate problems and
a dash of unfortunate coincidence - thanks anyway.

In message
<c1d0b629-4676-43c4-9bd4-(E-Mail Removed)>,
seani <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote


>Nothing I can do seems to let the two talk to one another now - ho-
>hum.

Has anything else been plugged into the mains - anywhere else in the
house? You may only need something like a mobile phone charger etc. to
be introducing interference back into the mains.


--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

On Feb 10, 1:10*pm, seani <ingl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 12:21*pm, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <6184crF1t98v...@mid.individual.net>,
> > spamt...@seani.justemail.net says...
>
> > > Last night, I had no problems using my Billion Bipac enabled homeplug
> > > router with solwise homeplugs. I set up my brother with Devolo 85 mbps
> > > plugs, and again, up until late last night, no problems.
>
> > > This morning, neither of us can get a peep out of our respective homeplug
> > > setups. I've been through the obvious checking cables, passwords, swapping
> > > out spare homeplugs etc, and instructed him to do the same - no joy.
>
> > > If I connect directly to the homeplug enabled router and scan for devices,
> > > they are visible, but with a 0mbps data rate. Using a direct connection,
> > > no Internet or XBOX360 problems.
>
> > > Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?
>
> > > I'm beginning to suspect that it *could* be some kind of issue with mains
> > > power conditioning, i.e. that there's been a qualitative change to the
> > > mains supply, and the plugs can no longer correctly add / extract whatever
> > > high-freq. signal they use to transmit data.
>
> > > We use different OS (WinXP / Linux), different broadband systems (ADSL/
> > > Virgin), different homeplugs (Solwise + Bipac / Devolo) and are
> > > geographically distant (Gateshead / Matlock).
>
> > I'm in Noriwch using 85Mbps solwise homeplugs, all working fine. Sorry
> > that's not helpful, but it's not a nationwide issue.
> > --
> > Regards
> > Jon- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks, it does add to the picture.
>
> I have an 85mbps netricity hub and it seems as if the previously
> cordial relationship it had with the 14mpbs Bipac HUB+ADLS modem I
> have as a gateway has dissolved overnight - no configuration or
> cabling changes of any kind. If I run a cable from the Bipac to the
> Netricity hub, I can use the Netricity hub to share the connection in
> on room, with the Powerline side of things out of the equation.
>
> Nothing I can do seems to let the two talk to one another now - ho-
> hum.
>
> My brothers problem now looks unrelated - through various patch cables
> and messing around with his PS3 connection, we've established that the
> Devolo adaptors and any cabling work perfectly. His network card is
> now under suspiscion and he's just gone for a replacement at PCWorld.
> In true it-never-rains-but-it-pours fashion, the tills at PC world
> were down and after serving four people in front of him, the manager
> refused to sell the card. This prompted him to put £15 on the counter
> and walk out with the network card. There *was* a security guard, but
> he didn't seem interested in getting involved.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

A new network card solved *his* problems.

On Feb 10, 1:22*pm, Alan <junk_re...@amac.f2s.com> wrote:
> In message
> <c1d0b629-4676-43c4-9bd4-3885afee7...@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> seani <ingl...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >Nothing I can do seems to let the two talk to one another now - ho-
> >hum.
>
> Has anything else been plugged into the mains - anywhere else in the
> house? *You may only need something like a mobile phone charger etc. to
> be introducing interference back into the mains.
>
Well, not since going to bed last night and getting up this morning.
These things have been absolutely rock solid.

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:22:44 +0000, Alan wrote:

> In message
> <c1d0b629-4676-43c4-9bd4-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> seani <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
>
>>Nothing I can do seems to let the two talk to one another now - ho-
>>hum.
>
> Has anything else been plugged into the mains - anywhere else in the
> house? You may only need something like a mobile phone charger etc. to
> be introducing interference back into the mains.
>
>

It looks increasingly like a configuration problem between the two
routers. I've opted to replace the neat integrated but non-functioning
Netricity router with an old Buffalo Airstation and 14mbps homeplug
combination. More sodding wires, but no 14/85 or Netricity/Billion
compatibility issues. Give that the Netricity router was £30 and I've
already spent >2hrs on the problem, that's the end of that.