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      01-14-2010, 04:33 AM
A neighbor has a desktop computer in their den/office
with a DSL line from AT&T or Earthlink...
I think they even still run a PPPoE client on the desktop vs a router or
modem.
Anyway, I think they want to let the other computers in the house
which I recall were desktops join the Internet connection.

They have a Dlink WiFi router that one of the boys got somewhere,
but have never hooked everything up and migrated from the desktop client
to let the WAP do all the work.

Anyway - I was thinking of what hardware options might work best....
I have a couple of Netgear AC powerline modules that worked ok for me..
On the WiFi side - a USB might be good - parents could pull them out at
will..
or the classic PCI board with the rubber duck antenna.

Will have to see this weekend what they really have and go from there...

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      01-14-2010, 08:20 AM
TBerk wrote:

> On Jan 13, 9:33*pm, "ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam...@interserv.com> wrote:
> > A neighbor has a desktop computer in their den/office
> > with a DSL line from AT&T or Earthlink...
> > I think they even still run a PPPoE client on the desktop vs a
> > router or modem.
> > Anyway, I think they want to let the other computers in the house
> > which I recall were desktops join the Internet connection.
> >
> > They have a Dlink WiFi router that one of the boys got somewhere,
> > but have never hooked everything up and migrated from the desktop
> > client to let the WAP do all the work.
> >
> > Anyway - I was thinking of what hardware options might work best....
> > I have a couple of Netgear AC powerline modules that worked ok for
> > me.. On the WiFi side - a USB might be good - parents could pull
> > them out at will..
> > or the classic PCI board with the rubber duck antenna.
> >
> > Will have to see this weekend what they really have and go from
> > there...
> >
> > --

>
> Well, as you already started- criteria points the way.
>
> my initial thoughts are to avoid USB as something easy to plug in but
> also esy to unplug/break off/go bad. Also, (based on my inuition) it
> would seem to have more overhead due to additional layers to get
> through vs more conventional ethernet devices.
>
> Powerline, I can't speak to as they are outside of my hands on
> experience, so my initial default was "wh, PCI, of course!".
>
> The Home Networking aspect of this brings the powerline adapter option
> back into focus though, esp if the environment has trouble with the
> wifi option.
>
> Knowing what type of wifi router you have to work with would help
> also; is it an old 'B', a newer 'G' or current 'N'? Does it support
> WPA2-PSK?
>
> How savvy are the end-users ad what level of self support are they
> willing to trade off?
>
> And on it goes...
>
> berk


Have you ever actually used USB wireless?

If you had you wouldn't be writing such stuff.

 
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      01-14-2010, 10:15 PM

"Peter Pan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) m...
> "TBerk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:f0cf7b09-f568-4b6a-a80b-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> Knowing what type of wifi router you have to work with would help
> also; is it an old 'B', a newer 'G' or current 'N'? Does it support
> WPA2-PSK?
>
> How savvy are the end-users ad what level of self support are they
> willing to trade off?
>
> And on it goes...
>
> berk
>
>

it's a D-link 615 -
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=565

I gave them a list of items to think about...
and let me know if they want any help...
---
Suggested items to think about.....

#1 - migrate DSL connection configuration from Den PC to WiFi router
#2 - change Den PC config to normal Ethernet wired connection to Router
#3 - priority for other connections to Internet, where & how ?
- Other PC's in bedrooms ?
- How to physically connect to home network & Internet ?
- Danny's new laptop from school - is it WiFi capable ?
- Game console in basement or family room - how (if) to connect to
Internet gaming ?
#4 - Printing might be a challenge to be addressed later
#5 - Any other Internet capable devices ? TV, DVR, iTouch, etc -

LASTLY - potential WiFi interference

What type of cordless phones - are they labeled "2.4GHZ" ?
Any "Bluetooth" devices used for headphones, speakers, cellphones, etc ?



 
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      01-14-2010, 10:17 PM

"Peter Pan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> there are approved current n standards now? last I heard, a few weeks ago,
> there were still two different proposals, and they weren't compatible with
> each other, and one or the other hadn't been approved yet... if that's
> still correct, then what type of n?


BTW - if you want to discuss "N" standards,
go start another thread and discuss it there....
or just participate in the ones already avail...



 
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      01-14-2010, 11:30 PM

"Peter Pan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>>> "TBerk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:f0cf7b09-f568-4b6a-a80b-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Knowing what type of wifi router you have to work with would help
>>> also; is it an old 'B', a newer 'G' or current 'N'? Does it support
>>> WPA2-PSK?
>>>
>>> How savvy are the end-users ad what level of self support are they
>>> willing to trade off?
>>>
>>> And on it goes...
>>>
>>> berk
>>>
>>>

>> it's a D-link 615 -
>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=565
>>
>> I gave them a list of items to think about...
>> and let me know if they want any help...
>> ---
>> Suggested items to think about.....
>>
>> #1 - migrate DSL connection configuration from Den PC to WiFi router
>> #2 - change Den PC config to normal Ethernet wired connection to Router
>> #3 - priority for other connections to Internet, where & how ?
>> - Other PC's in bedrooms ?
>> - How to physically connect to home network & Internet ?
>> - Danny's new laptop from school - is it WiFi capable ?
>> - Game console in basement or family room - how (if) to connect to
>> Internet gaming ?
>> #4 - Printing might be a challenge to be addressed later
>> #5 - Any other Internet capable devices ? TV, DVR, iTouch, etc -
>>
>> LASTLY - potential WiFi interference
>>
>> What type of cordless phones - are they labeled "2.4GHZ" ?
>> Any "Bluetooth" devices used for headphones, speakers, cellphones, etc ?
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> Have you thought about a wap router instead of just a wap? (that above is
> actually a wap router, see link above, look at the pix of the back)
> dsl modem to wap/router gives you both wired and wireless
> as for usb, you want them for the game things (they make usb wifi adaptors
> for game machines tivos etc), or do you want usb 'dongles' for puters with
> usb but no wifi?
> you can cable from the router part of the wap router to one of the
> powerline transceivers (Plug the other in where you want a wired
> connection)
>
> powerline essentially replaces running a dedicated cable.....
> laptops usually use mini pci cards for wireless, desktop usually use full
> sized pci cards for wireless, both (if it has a usb port) can use a usb
> dongle for wireless
>
> wonder from the subject if you knew that they can all work together, and
> be AND's instead of VS.... personally, i use all three, and they play well
> together...
>
>

yeah - DUH - I know everything you have mentioned....
so not sure what your point is....



 
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