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In article <7kudnf6WWY1o1h6iXTWc-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Don W. <dNOSPAMwiddersAThotmail.com> wrote: :"Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message :news:G4Hgb.252029$(E-Mail Removed) .cable.rogers.com... :> Is it possible to force a home page to anyone accessing a WiFi hotspot? :> I have a dlink DI-624. :If you own the gateway you can do whatever you want with the traffic flowing :through. Since the behavior you are proposing is not typical of most  ff-the-shelf routers it might make sense to put together a:linux/unix/BSD/whatever box with two Ethernet adapters and design your own :router. I don't know of any boxes designed to do what you want, but I'll :bet they exist. Don, I seem to be at a loss to figure out how *any* DLINK box, linux/unix/BSD/whatever could possibly force a "home page" onto my Palm ?? Well, sure, if I brought in a Windows laptop with IE you could try a whole series of exploits to change my home page setting, but if you succeeded it would be because I hadn't secured my laptop adequately. I put it to you that no browswer I've ever heard of sends out any information on an HTTP request indicating that it is the home page that is being fetched. Because of this, you can't just have it switch in your page every time you detect that the user is putting in a request to the home page that they configured. You can't tell a home page from any other page. The only thing you can do that is remotely close is to use an authentication scheme, and assert some control over the *first* page that the user accesses (or the first 5 or whatever). Depending how you do it, you could easily end up ruining their cache for when they later deliberately go and attempt to access that page again, but that might be a bonus for you -- and a real drag to the user who is accustomed to using www.google.com as their home page and now really wants to do a search... Remember: a home page is not the same thing as the -first- page shown to the user. -- 'ignorandus (Latin): "deserving not to be known"' -- Journal of Self-Referentialism |
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Walter Roberson wrote:
> In article <7kudnf6WWY1o1h6iXTWc-(E-Mail Removed)>, > Don W. <dNOSPAMwiddersAThotmail.com> wrote: > :"Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > :news:G4Hgb.252029$(E-Mail Removed) .cable.rogers.com... > :> Is it possible to force a home page to anyone accessing a WiFi hotspot? > :> I have a dlink DI-624. > > :If you own the gateway you can do whatever you want with the traffic flowing > :through. Since the behavior you are proposing is not typical of most > ff-the-shelf routers it might make sense to put together a> :linux/unix/BSD/whatever box with two Ethernet adapters and design your own > :router. I don't know of any boxes designed to do what you want, but I'll > :bet they exist. > > Don, I seem to be at a loss to figure out how *any* DLINK box, > linux/unix/BSD/whatever could possibly force a "home page" onto my Palm ?? > Well, sure, if I brought in a Windows laptop with IE you could try > a whole series of exploits to change my home page setting, but if you > succeeded it would be because I hadn't secured my laptop adequately. > > I put it to you that no browswer I've ever heard of sends out any > information on an HTTP request indicating that it is the home page that > is being fetched. Because of this, you can't just have it switch in > your page every time you detect that the user is putting in a request > to the home page that they configured. You can't tell a home page from > any other page. > > The only thing you can do that is remotely close is to use an authentication > scheme, and assert some control over the *first* page that the user > accesses (or the first 5 or whatever). Depending how you do it, you could > easily end up ruining their cache for when they later deliberately go > and attempt to access that page again, but that might be a bonus for you -- > and a real drag to the user who is accustomed to using www.google.com > as their home page and now really wants to do a search... > > Remember: a home page is not the same thing as the -first- page shown > to the user. Sorry, I meant first page shown to the user. If someone happens to access my hotspot in my condominium building, I would like to have a page come up that says who's hotspot they are accessing. Maybe we can share internet access costs or something. |
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"Walter Roberson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:blvk2f$chv$(E-Mail Removed)... > In article <7kudnf6WWY1o1h6iXTWc-(E-Mail Removed)>, > Don W. <dNOSPAMwiddersAThotmail.com> wrote: > :"Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > :news:G4Hgb.252029$(E-Mail Removed) .cable.rogers.com... > :> Is it possible to force a home page to anyone accessing a WiFi hotspot? > :> I have a dlink DI-624. > > :If you own the gateway you can do whatever you want with the traffic flowing > :through. Since the behavior you are proposing is not typical of most > ff-the-shelf routers it might make sense to put together a> :linux/unix/BSD/whatever box with two Ethernet adapters and design your own > :router. I don't know of any boxes designed to do what you want, but I'll > :bet they exist. > > Don, I seem to be at a loss to figure out how *any* DLINK box, > linux/unix/BSD/whatever could possibly force a "home page" onto my Palm ?? > Well, sure, if I brought in a Windows laptop with IE you could try > a whole series of exploits to change my home page setting, but if you > succeeded it would be because I hadn't secured my laptop adequately. I'm not suggesting that anyone change your home page setting. Your client device requests http://www.yahoo.com and his router returns his own special page as if it came from http://www.yahoo.com. No settings have been changed. Typically the 'alternative' page provided would be some sort of sign-on screen. Once authorized to use the network, the router would pass traffic normally. Some hotels have systems like this. > > I put it to you that no browswer I've ever heard of sends out any > information on an HTTP request indicating that it is the home page that > is being fetched. Because of this, you can't just have it switch in > your page every time you detect that the user is putting in a request > to the home page that they configured. You can't tell a home page from > any other page. Tim has already clarified what he meant by "home page". > > The only thing you can do that is remotely close is to use an authentication > scheme, and assert some control over the *first* page that the user > accesses (or the first 5 or whatever). Yup. > Depending how you do it, you could > easily end up ruining their cache for when they later deliberately go > and attempt to access that page again, but that might be a bonus for you -- > and a real drag to the user who is accustomed to using www.google.com > as their home page and now really wants to do a search... A cached version of the google page wouldn't help him very much when he really wants to do a search. These 'schemes' can already be found in some hotels. > > Remember: a home page is not the same thing as the -first- page shown > to the user. > -- > 'ignorandus (Latin): "deserving not to be known"' > -- Journal of Self-Referentialism To some a home page is the one they created on geocities that has there picture on it. To my browser it means the first page shown to the user (because it is the page automatically requested when the browser opens) and the page requested when I click the toolbar button with the house on it. As this poster explained, he meant that when a client requests its first page ('home' page) it would be replaced by a page of his own making. Don W. |
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