Home networking router query?

From: "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
Subject: Home networking router query?
Date: 15 March 2006 15:56

At present I have a working network between my laptop (XP) and my
desktop(98SE) using a crossover cable. I am connected to ADSL Broadband via
a USB connection
Everything is working well.
I am about to replace the Desktop with another desktop but running XP.
I also wanted in future to be able to run each PC independently so I was
planning to use a router.
I would like to get the router working with my present setup before I
purchase the new Desktop.
I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly confused as
to what type of router and connections it should have, that I should buy
and what cables I should use.
Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another long
article?
Blair

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:02:07 -0000, "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly confused as
>to what type of router and connections it should have, that I should buy
>and what cables I should use.
>Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another long

I have a small network set up here which would suit you fine

First buy a network switch - mine is an 8 port - meaning I can connect
8 network connections to it

Connect an ADSL router to one of the ports on the switch

Connect all necessary PCs/ Laptops to the router

On PCs/ Laptops set the default gateway to the IP address of the
router

on PCs/ Laptops set to obtain IP address automatically and then set
DHCP on the router

on PCs/ Laptops set to use router ip address as DNS server and then
enable DNS on the router

This is simplified, as I have a domain controller - so I'm a bit more
complex, but something like that SHOULD get you goin gin the right
direction




Tym

~There's no place like 127.0.0.1~

Thanks for your help
Seems to meet the bill
Does this mean I discard my ADSL/USB modem supplied by my ISP?
If I connect my printer and scanner does this mean more hardware?
Blair




"Neteng" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I would look at
>
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...VisitorWrapper
>
> Pretty cheap, but decent features and a stateful firewall. Ask if you have
> any other questions.
>
>
> "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:u%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > From: "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > Subject: Home networking router query?
> > Date: 15 March 2006 15:56
> >
> > At present I have a working network between my laptop (XP) and my
> > desktop(98SE) using a crossover cable. I am connected to ADSL Broadband
> via
> > a USB connection
> > Everything is working well.
> > I am about to replace the Desktop with another desktop but running XP.
> > I also wanted in future to be able to run each PC independently so I was
> > planning to use a router.
> > I would like to get the router working with my present setup before I
> > purchase the new Desktop.
> > I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly confused
> as
> > to what type of router and connections it should have, that I should
buy
> > and what cables I should use.
> > Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another
long
> > article?
> > Blair
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"Tym" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:02:07 -0000, "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly confused
as
> >to what type of router and connections it should have, that I should
buy
> >and what cables I should use.
> >Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another
long
>
> I have a small network set up here which would suit you fine
>
> First buy a network switch - mine is an 8 port - meaning I can connect
> 8 network connections to it
>
> Connect an ADSL router to one of the ports on the switch
>
> Connect all necessary PCs/ Laptops to the router
>
> On PCs/ Laptops set the default gateway to the IP address of the
> router
>
> on PCs/ Laptops set to obtain IP address automatically and then set
> DHCP on the router
>
> on PCs/ Laptops set to use router ip address as DNS server and then
> enable DNS on the router
>
> This is simplified, as I have a domain controller - so I'm a bit more
> complex, but something like that SHOULD get you goin gin the right
> direction

> Tym

Thanks for your help. This looks suitable for my system but do I discard the
ADSL/USB modem supplied by my ISP?
Blair

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:08:13 -0000, "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Thanks for your help. This looks suitable for my system but do I discard the
>ADSL/USB modem supplied by my ISP?
>Blair


No - that one should suffice - I used my ISP's one until I broke it!!!
(Don't rell PlusNet!!!)
Tym

~There's no place like 127.0.0.1~

You need to keep it. It will plug into your firewall's outside interface.
The modem is still needed for termination to your ISP's network.

"Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Tym" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:02:07 -0000, "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly
confused
> as
> > >to what type of router and connections it should have, that I should
> buy
> > >and what cables I should use.
> > >Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another
> long
> >
> > I have a small network set up here which would suit you fine
> >
> > First buy a network switch - mine is an 8 port - meaning I can connect
> > 8 network connections to it
> >
> > Connect an ADSL router to one of the ports on the switch
> >
> > Connect all necessary PCs/ Laptops to the router
> >
> > On PCs/ Laptops set the default gateway to the IP address of the
> > router
> >
> > on PCs/ Laptops set to obtain IP address automatically and then set
> > DHCP on the router
> >
> > on PCs/ Laptops set to use router ip address as DNS server and then
> > enable DNS on the router
> >
> > This is simplified, as I have a domain controller - so I'm a bit more
> > complex, but something like that SHOULD get you goin gin the right
> > direction
>
> > Tym
>
> Thanks for your help. This looks suitable for my system but do I discard
the
> ADSL/USB modem supplied by my ISP?
> Blair
>
>

Thanks for you help
Blair

"Neteng" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> You need to keep it. It will plug into your firewall's outside interface.
> The modem is still needed for termination to your ISP's network.
>
> "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "Tym" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:02:07 -0000, "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly
> confused
> > as
> > > >to what type of router and connections it should have, that I
should
> > buy
> > > >and what cables I should use.
> > > >Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another
> > long
> > >
> > > I have a small network set up here which would suit you fine
> > >
> > > First buy a network switch - mine is an 8 port - meaning I can connect
> > > 8 network connections to it
> > >
> > > Connect an ADSL router to one of the ports on the switch
> > >
> > > Connect all necessary PCs/ Laptops to the router
> > >
> > > On PCs/ Laptops set the default gateway to the IP address of the
> > > router
> > >
> > > on PCs/ Laptops set to obtain IP address automatically and then set
> > > DHCP on the router
> > >
> > > on PCs/ Laptops set to use router ip address as DNS server and then
> > > enable DNS on the router
> > >
> > > This is simplified, as I have a domain controller - so I'm a bit more
> > > complex, but something like that SHOULD get you goin gin the right
> > > direction
> >
> > > Tym
> >
> > Thanks for your help. This looks suitable for my system but do I discard
> the
> > ADSL/USB modem supplied by my ISP?
> > Blair
> >
> >
>
>

"Tym" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:08:13 -0000, "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for your help. This looks suitable for my system but do I discard
the
> >ADSL/USB modem supplied by my ISP?
> >Blair
>
>
> No - that one should suffice - I used my ISP's one until I broke it!!!
> (Don't rell PlusNet!!!)
> Tym
>
> ~There's no place like 127.0.0.1~
Thanks for your help
Blair

"Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> From: "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> Subject: Home networking router query?
> Date: 15 March 2006 15:56
>
> At present I have a working network between my laptop (XP) and my
> desktop(98SE) using a crossover cable. I am connected to ADSL Broadband
via
> a USB connection
> Everything is working well.
> I am about to replace the Desktop with another desktop but running XP.
> I also wanted in future to be able to run each PC independently so I was
> planning to use a router.
> I would like to get the router working with my present setup before I
> purchase the new Desktop.
> I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly confused
as
> to what type of router and connections it should have, that I should buy
> and what cables I should use.
> Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another long
> article?
> Blair
>
An update on my situation.
Wanadoo have offered a router which has two connections for two pc networked
and an upgrade to up to 8 Mbitsps and no increase in monthly cost.
I have the new router and connected my XP pc first and all working well.
Using the software to connect the 98 I have run into a problem with a fault
message which says that a firewall is running and can't connect.
I have disconnected both Firewalls but still no Joy.
I have tried to connect using the settings for a network but no joy
I am wondering if the previous settings for my network are interfering with
the new settings?
I checked the settings and they seem OK
The primary Network Logon was selected as Client for Microsoft Networks and
not windows logon. Is that correct?
Blair

"Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:u%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > From: "Blair" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > Subject: Home networking router query?
> > Date: 15 March 2006 15:56
> >
> > At present I have a working network between my laptop (XP) and my
> > desktop(98SE) using a crossover cable. I am connected to ADSL Broadband
> via
> > a USB connection
> > Everything is working well.
> > I am about to replace the Desktop with another desktop but running XP.
> > I also wanted in future to be able to run each PC independently so I was
> > planning to use a router.
> > I would like to get the router working with my present setup before I
> > purchase the new Desktop.
> > I have read numerous technical articles which leave me slightly confused
> as
> > to what type of router and connections it should have, that I should
buy
> > and what cables I should use.
> > Can someone give me a simple answer without being referred to another
long
> > article?
> > Blair
> >
> An update on my situation.
> Wanadoo have offered a router which has two connections for two pc
networked
> and an upgrade to up to 8 Mbitsps and no increase in monthly cost.
> I have the new router and connected my XP pc first and all working well.
> Using the software to connect the 98 I have run into a problem with a
fault
> message which says that a firewall is running and can't connect.
> I have disconnected both Firewalls but still no Joy.
> I have tried to connect using the settings for a network but no joy
> I am wondering if the previous settings for my network are interfering
with
> the new settings?
> I checked the settings and they seem OK
> The primary Network Logon was selected as Client for Microsoft Networks
and
> not windows logon. Is that correct?
> Blair
>
I decided to contact Wanadoo help line again- the last time was hopeless but
this time I had a helpful person who soon established that my 98SE desktop
did not have enough memory so am having to replace my 5 year old Desktop. I
was considering doing this anyway.
Thanks to all who helped
Blair