Home Networking Problem

Hello All,

I have a Home Network set up at present. This is a wired network via
Ethernet cards and cables:-

Broadband comes in via an NTL set top box and connects to PC1 via ethernet.
This PC then acts as a server. A second cable comes out via Ethernet to a
Network Hub - here I have four other PC's connected via that hub, via
Ethernet, and the whole thing works a treat!! I share the Internet from PC1
and all other PC's sit really well on the network without any hitches.

I now have a Laptop with a a Wireless card in it - I want to add this to the
network. I have a Wireless USB device that I have fitted to PC1 and
configured to connect PC to PC on an Ad-hoc network. I have then run the
Networking Wizard accross my three Network conenctions on PC1 (Remember I
have a Ethernet In, and Ethernet out and now a USB out) - The Networking
wizard seems to work fine - it finds the correct card to share and creates a
network bridge between the two 'Outs' - The correct IP is assigned to the
bridge (192.168.0.1). The four PC's connected via a Hub all work and can
see the Internet - each getting a correct IP address (192.168.0...2-249)
however the Laptop cannot see the Internet - It connects to the Network, is
assigned an IP address inthe correct Range (192.168... etc) - It also cannot
share resources (file and Printer) with the other PC's, returning the
'Cannot connect, you may not have sufficient...etc' message.

To do some digging around this, I disabled my second Ethernet card and set
up a home network using just Ethernet (In) and Wireless USB (Out) - the
laptop found it straight away, assigned it an Ip and hey presto - the laptop
acts as normal on the network, full Internet and resource access. Put the
other Ethernet back on the network, Internet fails again.

All PC's are running Windows XP Pro - PC1 has SP2, the four PC's connected
via the Hub are various buiold between original build, SP1 and Sp2 and the
Laptop is just on original Buiold (will not accept SP1 or 2 - keeps
crashing - it's an old IBM Thinkpad 600X)

And before you Router advocates start, I know I would be much better with a
Router but my current set up suits me fine - I want PC1 to act as a server -
It helps me control the access and usage of the other PC's (kids) plus it
isn't just a case of buying a router, I've already spent money on the
Network I have so if I can tweak this and get it working, i;d be much
happier.

Anyone got any idea's?

Thanks in advance

Richard

The Fids, <fids_e@nospam_yahoo.com>, the inert, mouldy worm casting, and
marshlands attendant, derided:

> Hello All,
>
> I have a Home Network set up at present. This is a wired network via
> Ethernet cards and cables:-
>
> Broadband comes in via an NTL set top box and connects to PC1 via
> ethernet. This PC then acts as a server. A second cable comes out
> via Ethernet to a Network Hub - here I have four other PC's connected
> via that hub, via Ethernet, and the whole thing works a treat!! I
> share the Internet from PC1 and all other PC's sit really well on the
> network without any hitches.
>
> I now have a Laptop with a a Wireless card in it - I want to add this
> to the network. I have a Wireless USB device that I have fitted to
> PC1 and configured to connect PC to PC on an Ad-hoc network. I have
> then run the Networking Wizard accross my three Network conenctions
> on PC1 (Remember I have a Ethernet In, and Ethernet out and now a USB
> out) - The Networking wizard seems to work fine - it finds the
> correct card to share and creates a network bridge between the two
> 'Outs' - The correct IP is assigned to the bridge (192.168.0.1). The
> four PC's connected via a Hub all work and can see the Internet -
> each getting a correct IP address (192.168.0...2-249) however the
> Laptop cannot see the Internet - It connects to the Network, is
> assigned an IP address inthe correct Range (192.168... etc) - It also
> cannot share resources (file and Printer) with the other PC's,
> returning the 'Cannot connect, you may not have sufficient...etc'
> message.
>
> To do some digging around this, I disabled my second Ethernet card
> and set up a home network using just Ethernet (In) and Wireless USB
> (Out) - the laptop found it straight away, assigned it an Ip and hey
> presto - the laptop acts as normal on the network, full Internet and
> resource access. Put the other Ethernet back on the network,
> Internet fails again.
>
> All PC's are running Windows XP Pro - PC1 has SP2, the four PC's
> connected via the Hub are various buiold between original build, SP1
> and Sp2 and the Laptop is just on original Buiold (will not accept
> SP1 or 2 - keeps crashing - it's an old IBM Thinkpad 600X)
>
> And before you Router advocates start, I know I would be much better
> with a Router but my current set up suits me fine - I want PC1 to act
> as a server - It helps me control the access and usage of the other
> PC's (kids) plus it isn't just a case of buying a router, I've
> already spent money on the Network I have so if I can tweak this and
> get it working, i;d be much happier.
>
> Anyone got any idea's?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Richard

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"The Fids" <fids_e@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hello All,
>
> I have a Home Network set up at present. This is a wired network via
> Ethernet cards and cables:-
>
> Broadband comes in via an NTL set top box and connects to PC1 via
> ethernet. This PC then acts as a server. A second cable comes out via
> Ethernet to a Network Hub - here I have four other PC's connected via that
> hub, via Ethernet, and the whole thing works a treat!! I share the
> Internet from PC1 and all other PC's sit really well on the network
> without any hitches.
>
> I now have a Laptop with a a Wireless card in it - I want to add this to
> the network. I have a Wireless USB device that I have fitted to PC1 and
> configured to connect PC to PC on an Ad-hoc network. I have then run the
> Networking Wizard accross my three Network conenctions on PC1 (Remember I
> have a Ethernet In, and Ethernet out and now a USB out) - The Networking
> wizard seems to work fine - it finds the correct card to share and creates
> a network bridge between the two 'Outs' - The correct IP is assigned to
> the bridge (192.168.0.1). The four PC's connected via a Hub all work and
> can see the Internet - each getting a correct IP address
> (192.168.0...2-249) however the Laptop cannot see the Internet - It
> connects to the Network, is assigned an IP address inthe correct Range
> (192.168... etc) - It also cannot share resources (file and Printer) with
> the other PC's, returning the 'Cannot connect, you may not have
> sufficient...etc' message.
>
> To do some digging around this, I disabled my second Ethernet card and set
> up a home network using just Ethernet (In) and Wireless USB (Out) - the
> laptop found it straight away, assigned it an Ip and hey presto - the
> laptop acts as normal on the network, full Internet and resource access.
> Put the other Ethernet back on the network, Internet fails again.
>
> All PC's are running Windows XP Pro - PC1 has SP2, the four PC's connected
> via the Hub are various buiold between original build, SP1 and Sp2 and the
> Laptop is just on original Buiold (will not accept SP1 or 2 - keeps
> crashing - it's an old IBM Thinkpad 600X)
>
> And before you Router advocates start, I know I would be much better with
> a Router but my current set up suits me fine - I want PC1 to act as a
> server - It helps me control the access and usage of the other PC's (kids)
> plus it isn't just a case of buying a router, I've already spent money on
> the Network I have so if I can tweak this and get it working, i;d be much
> happier.
>
> Anyone got any idea's?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Richard
>

If it was me - I would try and get a WAP to plug into the hub! It's got to
be easier!

If that isn't an option you may have to fiddle with route settings. I've
never used one of these cards before so can you tell me if the USB device
appears as an ethernet card? Is the IP address configurable?


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"The Fids" <fids_e@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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SNIPPED
>
> And before you Router advocates start, I know I would be much better with
a
> Router but my current set up suits me fine - I want PC1 to act as a
server -
> It helps me control the access and usage of the other PC's (kids) plus it
> isn't just a case of buying a router, I've already spent money on the
> Network I have so if I can tweak this and get it working, i;d be much
> happier.
>
> Anyone got any idea's?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Richard

What OS is PC1 running and what software are you using to allow PC1 to
become a router?
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Mysteron wrote:
> "The Fids" <fids_e@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ffRhd.158$(E-Mail Removed)...
> SNIPPED
>>
>> And before you Router advocates start, I know I would be much better
>> with a Router but my current set up suits me fine - I want PC1 to
>> act as a server - It helps me control the access and usage of the
>> other PC's (kids) plus it isn't just a case of buying a router, I've
>> already spent money on the Network I have so if I can tweak this and
>> get it working, i;d be much happier.
>>
>> Anyone got any idea's?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Richard
>
> What OS is PC1 running and what software are you using to allow PC1 to
> become a router?

Obviously it's running IBM System 36 or an early version of VMS, you stupid
fuck.

Why the fucking hell did the OP crosspost into a Windows XP newsgroup, for
fuck's sake, you totally dumb cunt?

Tony Skitting wrote:

>>What OS is PC1 running and what software are you using to allow PC1 to
>>become a router?
>
>
> Obviously it's running IBM System 36 or an early version of VMS, you stupid
> fuck.
>
> Why the fucking hell did the OP crosspost into a Windows XP newsgroup, for
> fuck's sake, you totally dumb cunt?

Yeah, What on earth were you thinking, Mysteron? Can't you tell that
they're all angst-filled teenagers who are only interested in using
their favourite four-letter words in reply to every post that appears?


--
Ben Cottrell AKA Bench

PC1 is running XP Pro SP2 - Just using the Home Networking wizard which has
been running fine - haopoy to switch to different software but don't know of
any.


"Mysteron" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "The Fids" <fids_e@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ffRhd.158$(E-Mail Removed)...
> SNIPPED
>>
>> And before you Router advocates start, I know I would be much better with
> a
>> Router but my current set up suits me fine - I want PC1 to act as a
> server -
>> It helps me control the access and usage of the other PC's (kids) plus it
>> isn't just a case of buying a router, I've already spent money on the
>> Network I have so if I can tweak this and get it working, i;d be much
>> happier.
>>
>> Anyone got any idea's?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Richard
>
> What OS is PC1 running and what software are you using to allow PC1 to
> become a router?
> --
> Mysteron
>
>

"The Fids" <fids_e@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> The four PC's connected via a Hub all work and can
> see the Internet - each getting a correct IP address (192.168.0...2-249)
> however the Laptop cannot see the Internet - It connects to the Network,
is
> assigned an IP address inthe correct Range (192.168... etc) - It also
cannot
> share resources (file and Printer) with the other PC's, returning the
> 'Cannot connect, you may not have sufficient...etc' message.
>
> To do some digging around this, I disabled my second Ethernet card and set
> up a home network using just Ethernet (In) and Wireless USB (Out) - the
> laptop found it straight away, assigned it an Ip and hey presto - the
laptop
> acts as normal on the network, full Internet and resource access. Put the
> other Ethernet back on the network, Internet fails again.

I'm not entirely convinced that XP Pro supports multi-homing - I was under
the impression that MS had deliberately crippled it, along with the
connection limit for the mini-IIS.

If the "etc" part of the address is in the correct (zero) subnet, then this
might well be your problem.

Standing by to be corrected..

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Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!

Hairy One Kenobi <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> tattled:

> "The Fids" <fids_e@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ffRhd.158$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> <snip>
>
>> The four PC's connected via a Hub all work and can
>> see the Internet - each getting a correct IP address
>> (192.168.0...2-249) however the Laptop cannot see the Internet - It
>> connects to the Network, is assigned an IP address inthe correct
>> Range (192.168... etc) - It also cannot share resources (file and
>> Printer) with the other PC's, returning the 'Cannot connect, you may
>> not have sufficient...etc' message.
>>
>> To do some digging around this, I disabled my second Ethernet card
>> and set up a home network using just Ethernet (In) and Wireless USB
>> (Out) - the laptop found it straight away, assigned it an Ip and hey
>> presto - the laptop acts as normal on the network, full Internet and
>> resource access. Put the other Ethernet back on the network,
>> Internet fails again.
>
> I'm not entirely convinced that XP Pro supports multi-homing - I was
> under the impression that MS had deliberately crippled it, along with
> the connection limit for the mini-IIS.
>
> If the "etc" part of the address is in the correct (zero) subnet,
> then this might well be your problem.
>
> Standing by to be corrected..

XP Pro supports 10 simultaneous connections per host. If he has a shared
printer and a few shared directories, plus five internet connections through
th eone machine, that'll cause his problem.

That aside, about the statement "I'm not entirely convinced that XP Pro
supports multi-homing - I was under the impression that MS had deliberately
crippled it, along with the connection limit for the mini-IIS." Is that hot
air or shit blowing out your ears?

Hairy One Kenobi (abuse@[127.0.0.1]) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

> I'm not entirely convinced that XP Pro supports multi-homing - I was
> under the impression that MS had deliberately crippled it

XP Home certainly does - but I don't use it for ICS. One wireless card, one
10Mb cheapy for the laserjet.

> Standing by to be corrected..

Glad to be of service...