home network

Hi,

Just about getting to grips with this networking thing. I have two PC's, one
with XP pro other with 98SE. Is it recommended to have both PC's run XP Pro
or doesn't it matter? Are there any advantages to having both PC's run same
OS? If both PC's do run XP Pro does that mean I can remotely connect to the
other PC's desktop and manipulate it? I'm using simple CAT5 crossover & 2
NIC's setup.

Cheers

Rob

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robin"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just about getting to grips with this networking thing. I have two PC's, one
>with XP pro other with 98SE. Is it recommended to have both PC's run XP Pro
>or doesn't it matter? Are there any advantages to having both PC's run same
>OS? If both PC's do run XP Pro does that mean I can remotely connect to the
>other PC's desktop and manipulate it? I'm using simple CAT5 crossover & 2
>NIC's setup.
>
>Cheers
>
>Rob

Hi, Robin.

Those are good questions. I'll try to give equally good answers. :-)

All versions of Windows can network with each other, and there's no
advantage to having the same version on each computer. The key is to
use the same single network protocol for file and printer sharing on
all computers. Unless you have a specific reason for using something
else, TCP/IP is the best choice.

All versions of Windows can remotely connect to an XP Pro computer and
manipulate it using the Remote Desktop Client. Windows XP has the
Remote Desktop Client built in. You can install the client on other
versions of Windows from the Windows XP CD-ROM or download it from
here:

Remote Desktop Connection Software Download
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rdclientdl.asp
--
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Hi Steve

I have four computers and a Panasonic 2500 Copier Networked together 2
computers running Windows 98SE, 1 computers running XP Pro., the last one
running XP Home. A simple config as follows using tcp/ip protocal with a 5
port hub.

PROBLEM.
After the computer are all booted up and they all see each other, shortly
after a few operations they loose their connection with each other and won't
reconnect until you reboot. It seems that it's the machines that are running
Windows 98SE are the computers that are dropping out and the ones I have to
reboot.


Computer #1
1.Pentium II 333 MHZ 32 MHZ ram, running Windows 98SE 10/100 network
card
2. Address-- 90.0.0.1
255.255.255.0

Computer #2

1. Laptop Pentium 4, 6 months old all whistles and bells running
Windows XP Home
2. Address-- 90.0.0.2
255.255.255.0

Computer #3

1. Pentium 4 2.8, 512 Meg Ram, 3 day's old, on board 10\100 net.
card
2. Address-- 90.0.0.3
255.255.255.0


Computer #4

1. Pentium II 333 MHZ 64 meg ram Windows 98SE 10\100 net. card
2. Address-- 90.0.0.4
255.255.255.0


Panasonic 2500

1. 6 months old, built in network card,
2. Address-- 90.0.0.9
255.255.255.0

I have a couple of questions. Is a hub the best device to use in this
situation or would a switch be better? I also thought that since I
addressed all the units that they wouldn't loose each other. They seem to
find each other faster.

What am I doing wrong or what config. am I missing. It must be simple but
for the life of me I can't seem to find it.

Mike

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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robin"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just about getting to grips with this networking thing. I have two PC's,
one
> >with XP pro other with 98SE. Is it recommended to have both PC's run XP
Pro
> >or doesn't it matter? Are there any advantages to having both PC's run
same
> >OS? If both PC's do run XP Pro does that mean I can remotely connect to
the
> >other PC's desktop and manipulate it? I'm using simple CAT5 crossover & 2
> >NIC's setup.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Rob
>
> Hi, Robin.
>
> Those are good questions. I'll try to give equally good answers. :-)
>
> All versions of Windows can network with each other, and there's no
> advantage to having the same version on each computer. The key is to
> use the same single network protocol for file and printer sharing on
> all computers. Unless you have a specific reason for using something
> else, TCP/IP is the best choice.
>
> All versions of Windows can remotely connect to an XP Pro computer and
> manipulate it using the Remote Desktop Client. Windows XP has the
> Remote Desktop Client built in. You can install the client on other
> versions of Windows from the Windows XP CD-ROM or download it from
> here:
>
> Remote Desktop Connection Software Download
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rdclientdl.asp
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robin"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just about getting to grips with this networking thing. I have two PC's,
one
> >with XP pro other with 98SE. Is it recommended to have both PC's run XP
Pro
> >or doesn't it matter? Are there any advantages to having both PC's run
same
> >OS? If both PC's do run XP Pro does that mean I can remotely connect to
the
> >other PC's desktop and manipulate it? I'm using simple CAT5 crossover & 2
> >NIC's setup.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Rob
>
> Hi, Robin.
>
> Those are good questions. I'll try to give equally good answers. :-)
>
> All versions of Windows can network with each other, and there's no
> advantage to having the same version on each computer. The key is to
> use the same single network protocol for file and printer sharing on
> all computers. Unless you have a specific reason for using something
> else, TCP/IP is the best choice.
>
> All versions of Windows can remotely connect to an XP Pro computer and
> manipulate it using the Remote Desktop Client. Windows XP has the
> Remote Desktop Client built in. You can install the client on other
> versions of Windows from the Windows XP CD-ROM or download it from
> here:
>
> Remote Desktop Connection Software Download
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rdclientdl.asp
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Hi Steve,

Thanks very much for all that, most useful. I've now installed the remote de
sktop software on the 98SE PC and it connects to the XP PC fine. I had a
couple of teething problems in that I had to set up a password on my XP
logon to lift an account restriction but that was all. The question now is
though how do I remotely connect to the 98SE PC from the XP one. If I try to
browse for computers I initially see the workgroup, but if I try to expand
(click on the +) I get the message "The <workgroup name> Domain/Workgroup
does not contain any terminal servers." If I manually type in the name of
the 98SE PC and click connect, I get " the client could not connect to the
remote computer. Remote connections might not be enabled or the computer
might be too busy to accept new connections. etc. etc." Is it actually
possible for an XP pc to remotely connect to a 98SE machine? Or is there
something I'm missing? So to Recap 98SE to XP is fine but XP to 98SE isn't
working.

Cheers

Rob

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robin"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> All versions of Windows can remotely connect to an XP Pro computer and
>> manipulate it using the Remote Desktop Client. Windows XP has the
>> Remote Desktop Client built in. You can install the client on other
>> versions of Windows from the Windows XP CD-ROM or download it from
>> here:
>>
>> Remote Desktop Connection Software Download
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rdclientdl.asp
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>Thanks very much for all that, most useful. I've now installed the remote de
>sktop software on the 98SE PC and it connects to the XP PC fine. I had a
>couple of teething problems in that I had to set up a password on my XP
>logon to lift an account restriction but that was all. The question now is
>though how do I remotely connect to the 98SE PC from the XP one. If I try to
>browse for computers I initially see the workgroup, but if I try to expand
>(click on the +) I get the message "The <workgroup name> Domain/Workgroup
>does not contain any terminal servers." If I manually type in the name of
>the 98SE PC and click connect, I get " the client could not connect to the
>remote computer. Remote connections might not be enabled or the computer
>might be too busy to accept new connections. etc. etc." Is it actually
>possible for an XP pc to remotely connect to a 98SE machine? Or is there
>something I'm missing? So to Recap 98SE to XP is fine but XP to 98SE isn't
>working.
>
>Cheers
>
>Rob

You're welcome, Rob. The Remote Desktop Client software only allows
98SE to connect to and control an XP Pro PC. It doesn't work in the
other direction, so XP Pro can't connect to and control 98SE.

For that, you need third-party software such as VNC, available free
from these sites:

http://www.realvnc.com
http://www.tightvnc.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Robin"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> All versions of Windows can remotely connect to an XP Pro computer and
> >> manipulate it using the Remote Desktop Client. Windows XP has the
> >> Remote Desktop Client built in. You can install the client on other
> >> versions of Windows from the Windows XP CD-ROM or download it from
> >> here:
> >>
> >> Remote Desktop Connection Software Download
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rdclientdl.asp
> >
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >Thanks very much for all that, most useful. I've now installed the remote
de
> >sktop software on the 98SE PC and it connects to the XP PC fine. I had a
> >couple of teething problems in that I had to set up a password on my XP
> >logon to lift an account restriction but that was all. The question now
is
> >though how do I remotely connect to the 98SE PC from the XP one. If I try
to
> >browse for computers I initially see the workgroup, but if I try to
expand
> >(click on the +) I get the message "The <workgroup name> Domain/Workgroup
> >does not contain any terminal servers." If I manually type in the name of
> >the 98SE PC and click connect, I get " the client could not connect to
the
> >remote computer. Remote connections might not be enabled or the computer
> >might be too busy to accept new connections. etc. etc." Is it actually
> >possible for an XP pc to remotely connect to a 98SE machine? Or is there
> >something I'm missing? So to Recap 98SE to XP is fine but XP to 98SE
isn't
> >working.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Rob
>
> You're welcome, Rob. The Remote Desktop Client software only allows
> 98SE to connect to and control an XP Pro PC. It doesn't work in the
> other direction, so XP Pro can't connect to and control 98SE.
>
> For that, you need third-party software such as VNC, available free
> from these sites:
>
> http://www.realvnc.com
> http://www.tightvnc.com
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Hi Steve,

Cheers, thought that might be the case. Anyway I've decided to bite the
bullet and upgrade the 98SE pc to XP Pro. At least that way I know remote
desktop connection is on both and afterall MS do say in their XP tour that
XP networking is simple and painless. Lets see then shall we ;o)

Rob

Here's a FAQ tip copied from Targa computers' web page - worked for me on a Targa and a Compa

Q A computer with Windows XP cannot be seen in the My Network places using a peer to peer network with Win95/Win98/WinMe computer

A; Windows XP uses DNS as name resolution. This doesn't work in a peer to peer network without DNS.
In the registry create at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\NetBT\Parameters a value named NodeType by type REG_DWORD. As value, set 1.
Now all computers can be seen in the peer to peer network.

Targa add: Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

Hi


Just about getting to grips with this networking thing. I have two PC's, on
with XP pro other with 98SE. Is it recommended to have both PC's run XP Pr
or doesn't it matter? Are there any advantages to having both PC's run sam
OS? If both PC's do run XP Pro does that mean I can remotely connect to th
other PC's desktop and manipulate it? I'm using simple CAT5 crossover &
NIC's setup

Cheer

Ro

In article <FF96E94E-F0D4-491B-90A9-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"luggsie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Here's a FAQ tip copied from Targa computers' web page - worked for me
>on a Targa and a Compaq
>
>Q A computer with Windows XP cannot be seen in the My Network places
>using a peer to peer network with Win95/Win98/WinMe computers
>
>A; Windows XP uses DNS as name resolution. This doesn't work in a peer
>to peer network without DNS.
>In the registry create at
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servi ces\NetBT\Parameters
>a value named NodeType by type REG_DWORD. As value, set 1.
>Now all computers can be seen in the peer to peer network.
>
>Targa add: Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

That's a good tip that can solve some XP networking problems.
However, the explanation that Targa gives is wrong.

XP doesn't use DNS for name resolution in a peer-to-peer network. All
versions of Windows use NetBIOS over TCP/IP for name resolution in a
peer-to-peer network.

The registry key that they list specifies the NetBIOS node type for an
XP computer. The value of 1 sets the node type to "Broadcast", which
is the right value for a peer-to-peer network. I've seen a few cases
where the node type is incorrectly set to 2 (Point-to-Point), which
prevents name resolution because it requires a WINS server (not a DNS
server) on the network.

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <FF96E94E-F0D4-491B-90A9-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"luggsie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just about getting to grips with this networking thing. I have two PC's, one
>with XP pro other with 98SE. Is it recommended to have both PC's run XP Pro
>or doesn't it matter? Are there any advantages to having both PC's run same
>OS? If both PC's do run XP Pro does that mean I can remotely connect to the
>other PC's desktop and manipulate it? I'm using simple CAT5 crossover & 2
>NIC's setup.
>
>Cheers
>
>Rob

There's no reason to use the same version of Windows on both
computers. All versions of Windows can network with each other to
share files and printers.

Windows XP Pro allows another computer to connect to it using Remote
Desktop. The other computer can run any version of Windows. If the
other computer doesn't run XP (Home or Pro), you need to install the
Remote Desktop Connection software on it, which is available on the
Windows XP CD-ROM and from this web page:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rdclientdl.asp

All versions of Windows can remotely connect to each other using the
free VNC software from these sites:

http://www.realvnc.com
http://www.tightvnc.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm