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PkingTom
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      01-17-2004, 10:12 PM
Hello...

I have a laptop with Windows XP on it. My old com puter is running Windows 98
and it took me a few days to figure out how to connect both to the internet but
I finally figured it out. But now i'm trying to figure out how to access my
printer through the laptop as the printer is connected to the old computer. I'm
using a Belkin router.

One thing I realized is when I go to My Network Places/Entire Network/Microsoft
Windows Network/MSHome on my laptop it only shows the name of my laptop
network. There should be two right? One for both machines?

Before I realized what I was doing I found out later on that I had named the
networks on both machines with the same name. So I went back and changed the
network name on the old computer. But I still can't get the printer to work
with the laptop. What am I doing wrong? I've been searching all these tutorials
online and still having problems. Any help would be appreciated. I've been
trying to figure this stuff out all on my own and got the old computer online
again but still can't get file sharing and the printer going. I guess it would
help if the machines were able to recognize each other.


Thanks, Tom
 
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Carey Holzman
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      01-19-2004, 12:48 AM
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Carey

"PkingTom" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello...
>
> I have a laptop with Windows XP on it. My old com puter is running Windows

98
> and it took me a few days to figure out how to connect both to the

internet but
> I finally figured it out. But now i'm trying to figure out how to access

my
> printer through the laptop as the printer is connected to the old

computer. I'm
> using a Belkin router.
>
> One thing I realized is when I go to My Network Places/Entire

Network/Microsoft
> Windows Network/MSHome on my laptop it only shows the name of my laptop
> network. There should be two right? One for both machines?
>
> Before I realized what I was doing I found out later on that I had named

the
> networks on both machines with the same name. So I went back and changed

the
> network name on the old computer. But I still can't get the printer to

work
> with the laptop. What am I doing wrong? I've been searching all these

tutorials
> online and still having problems. Any help would be appreciated. I've been
> trying to figure this stuff out all on my own and got the old computer

online
> again but still can't get file sharing and the printer going. I guess it

would
> help if the machines were able to recognize each other.
>
>
> Thanks, Tom



 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      01-19-2004, 03:10 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) (PkingTom) wrote:
>Hello...
>
>I have a laptop with Windows XP on it. My old com puter is running Windows 98
>and it took me a few days to figure out how to connect both to the internet but
>I finally figured it out. But now i'm trying to figure out how to access my
>printer through the laptop as the printer is connected to the old computer. I'm
>using a Belkin router.
>
>One thing I realized is when I go to My Network Places/Entire Network/Microsoft
>Windows Network/MSHome on my laptop it only shows the name of my laptop
>network. There should be two right? One for both machines?
>
>Before I realized what I was doing I found out later on that I had named the
>networks on both machines with the same name. So I went back and changed the
>network name on the old computer. But I still can't get the printer to work
>with the laptop. What am I doing wrong? I've been searching all these tutorials
>online and still having problems. Any help would be appreciated. I've been
>trying to figure this stuff out all on my own and got the old computer online
>again but still can't get file sharing and the printer going. I guess it would
>help if the machines were able to recognize each other.
>
>
>Thanks, Tom


Do you mean that the workgroup names were the same? That's OK. It
isn't necessary, but it actually makes networking a little easier if
you specify the same workgroup name on both computers. If you mean
the computer names, those have to be different.

Run XP's Network Setup Wizard on both computers and tell it that they
connect to the Internet through a residential gateway (router). That
will automatically make all the necessary settings and share the
printer. Details here:

XP ICS - Starting the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm

If you have a firewall program on either computer, un-install it while
you get file and printer sharing to work. Then, you can re-install it
and configure it to allow access by computers on your LAN. Your
router protects your computers from access by other Internet users.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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PkingTom
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      01-19-2004, 06:04 AM
Steve, thanks for your reply.

I figured out how to set up the file sharing and also got the printer set up on
both machines. It was a little weird how I eventually got it going though.
Today I was watching a DVD on the laptop with the XP. Probably had nothing to
do with anything but about midway through I suddenly got a window that popped
up asking if I wanted to Dial Up to AOL and to give my username and password.
Not sure what this was I just clicked it off being that I'm not on any Dial Up
having the cable modem and router.

After the movie had finished I tried to sign onto my AOL and then the IE and
couldn't get on as I did earlier in the day. And when I tried IE that same Dial
Up window was popping up everytime I opened it.(The startup page to my browser
would show up but I couldn't click any links without being asked to connect).

So I went to Tools/Internet Options/Connections and under the window for Dial
Up and Virtual Private Network Settings the only thing listed was America
Online and the button clicked on below was set to "Dial whenever a network
connection is not present." I thought this was really odd. So I also went to
Network Connections and I saw my LAN Connection but above it there was listed
under Dial Up: America Online disconnected 56K Drexicon something or other.

So I went and looked on my machine on the Desktop at the same
information(tools/internet options/connections) and in the same window was also
AOL but underneath it was i think EZ 1-2-3, I assume that was something to do
with my network card in the machine that runs Windows 98. So I went back to the
laptop with the XP, removed the America Online option, clicked Add and clicked
broadband connection until that was the only thing in the window. Then I
clicked the option never dial up a connection.

Suddenly I was able to sign on both to IE and AOL. So I guess my questions are,
and sorry to make this o long but it was an odd thing that happened: 1. why did
that happen? Should I just figure that these are computers and weird things
happen?

2. Why does the window under connections in my desktop have the AOL and EZ
1-2-3 option in the window while now my laptop has just Broadband Connection?

3. And on my laptop with the XP, under Network Connection, and this is my
biggest question...why now where it says Broadband Connection does it say
disconnected WAN Miniport (PPPOE) even though I can access both IE and AOL?

Like I said, sorry this is long. But what happened while I was trying to figure
things out was I decided to rerun the setup wizard for the Home Network
again.(Actually did it a couple times). All of a sudden today under my Network
Places it decided to show the shareddocs folder along with another folder I
marked as shared on my desktop when it didn't do that the other day when I
first ran through the wizard. So that's when I figured out how to access the
shared files(by going in and allowing it thus bringing up a wondow asking for
the password on the desktop) and then eventually figued out how to install the
driver for the printer that was hooked up to the desktop. So i'm feeling good
that I got my home network all running. But would like to know why some of
those things happened.


Thanks, Tom
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]
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      01-19-2004, 12:06 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) (PkingTom) wrote:
>Steve, thanks for your reply.
>
>I figured out how to set up the file sharing and also got the printer set up on
>both machines. It was a little weird how I eventually got it going though.
>Today I was watching a DVD on the laptop with the XP. Probably had nothing to
>do with anything but about midway through I suddenly got a window that popped
>up asking if I wanted to Dial Up to AOL and to give my username and password.
>Not sure what this was I just clicked it off being that I'm not on any Dial Up
>having the cable modem and router.
>
>After the movie had finished I tried to sign onto my AOL and then the IE and
>couldn't get on as I did earlier in the day. And when I tried IE that same Dial
>Up window was popping up everytime I opened it.(The startup page to my browser
>would show up but I couldn't click any links without being asked to connect).
>
>So I went to Tools/Internet Options/Connections and under the window for Dial
>Up and Virtual Private Network Settings the only thing listed was America
>Online and the button clicked on below was set to "Dial whenever a network
>connection is not present." I thought this was really odd. So I also went to
>Network Connections and I saw my LAN Connection but above it there was listed
>under Dial Up: America Online disconnected 56K Drexicon something or other.
>
>So I went and looked on my machine on the Desktop at the same
>information(tools/internet options/connections) and in the same window was also
>AOL but underneath it was i think EZ 1-2-3, I assume that was something to do
>with my network card in the machine that runs Windows 98. So I went back to the
>laptop with the XP, removed the America Online option, clicked Add and clicked
>broadband connection until that was the only thing in the window. Then I
>clicked the option never dial up a connection.
>
>Suddenly I was able to sign on both to IE and AOL. So I guess my questions are,
>and sorry to make this o long but it was an odd thing that happened: 1. why did
>that happen? Should I just figure that these are computers and weird things
>happen?
>
>2. Why does the window under connections in my desktop have the AOL and EZ
>1-2-3 option in the window while now my laptop has just Broadband Connection?
>
>3. And on my laptop with the XP, under Network Connection, and this is my
>biggest question...why now where it says Broadband Connection does it say
>disconnected WAN Miniport (PPPOE) even though I can access both IE and AOL?
>
>Like I said, sorry this is long. But what happened while I was trying to figure
>things out was I decided to rerun the setup wizard for the Home Network
>again.(Actually did it a couple times). All of a sudden today under my Network
>Places it decided to show the shareddocs folder along with another folder I
>marked as shared on my desktop when it didn't do that the other day when I
>first ran through the wizard. So that's when I figured out how to access the
>shared files(by going in and allowing it thus bringing up a wondow asking for
>the password on the desktop) and then eventually figued out how to install the
>driver for the printer that was hooked up to the desktop. So i'm feeling good
>that I got my home network all running. But would like to know why some of
>those things happened.
>
>
>Thanks, Tom


I'm sorry, but I can't answer your questions without knowing more
about your setup. I don't know what "EZ 1-2-3" or "56K Drexico" are,
but I suspect that they're the dial-up modems in your computers.

However, I think that you found the right solution: configuring it to
never dial a connection since you have a cable modem.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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