Home Lan networking wtihout ICS

Please help

Yes, I can share the Internet connection between all of
the 3 computers, either 2 with Speedstream router or as
you stated all 3 computers via the 5 port Speedstream
Switch I connected to the Speedstream router. The
computers can " see " each other in network neighbourhood,
However when I want to share files the network, I cannot
share the files. I assumed it was the lack of the ICS not
being present. As Linda stated there is another way,or as
you stated ICS is not necessary( I always assumed that ).

How would the 3 computers share without ICS ?

thanks for your help.


Clement


>-----Original Message-----
>Can I use a 3thrd w2k computer as a Server/host, then
>network the other 2 W98Se as clients ? See message below,
>is this how it can be done without W98SE and ICS ?
>
>thanks
>
>Clement
>
>Subject: ICS does not install from Win 98 SE recovery CD
>( Internet sharing connection
> From: "Linda" <(E-Mail Removed)> Sent: 8/30/2003
>8:51:38 AM
>
>
>
>
>I have had no luck with ICS on our home network. I have
>removed all traces of ICS - it just did not work.
>
>I have 8 PCs connected via ethernet, a Linksys switch,
and
>a Linksys dsl/cable modem hub and all works beautifully.
>We even have a Linksys 2-port PrintServer with 4 10/100
>ports (that serves as an additional hub for our laptops)
>that networks two of our older printers. The PC that the
>dsl/cable modem hub is connected to serves as the "main"
>pc and everything else connects vis DHCP as controlled by
>the DSL/Cable modem. It is simple and works beautifully.
>We have Win98, WinME, Win2k and WinXP computers all
>working together with few problems.
>
>This is an easy, inexpensive solution to home networking.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Cable Modem, Speedtream Router, Speedstream Switch and
>two
>>Win 98 SE IBM computer.Sharing internet connection has
>>worked 6 months. Now I am trying to share files over the
>>my home LAN network. Reading that one will be host and
>>other will be client. And need to install ICS.
>>
>>I am setting up a home network. Appears that ICS is not
>>installed. As described by Microsoft, went to Control
>>panel and add/remove programs, Windows Set-up tab,
Double
>>click Internet tools, Internet Sharing connection and
yes
>>and yes. However installation of program from Recovery
CD
>>does not start. " cannot find " icSapi32.dll "
>>
>>Other ways to install ICS ? or can I set up a home Lan
>>network with an alternative to ICS ?
>>
>>Thanks for your input.
>>
>>Clement, (E-Mail Removed)
>
>.
>
..

In article <02fb01c36f40$b6d4b810$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Clement Hamer"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Please help
>
>Yes, I can share the Internet connection between all of
>the 3 computers, either 2 with Speedstream router or as
>you stated all 3 computers via the 5 port Speedstream
>Switch I connected to the Speedstream router. The
>computers can " see " each other in network neighbourhood,
>However when I want to share files the network, I cannot
>share the files. I assumed it was the lack of the ICS not
>being present. As Linda stated there is another way,or as
>you stated ICS is not necessary( I always assumed that ).
>
>How would the 3 computers share without ICS ?
>
>thanks for your help.
>
>
>Clement

I already replied to the exact same message that you posted with the
subject title "Re: Home Lan Network with 1 W2000 computer as
Host/server for 2 other W98 SE compute". Did you see that reply? If
not, I'm repeating it here.

Don't use ICS. If you've installed it on any computer(s), un-install
it.

Connect one of the Speedstream router's LAN ports to the uplink port
of the switch. Connect the computers to regular ports on the switch.

Since the computers can " see " each other in Network Neighborhood,
they can also share files with each other. However, you say that they
can't share the files. We need more information to help you solve the
problem:

How are you trying to share files? What exactly are you doing, and
what exactly happens when you do it? What is the complete text of all
error messages? The more details you give, the more likely it is that
someone can help.
--
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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excellent thanks

I am just about to check the Network neighbourhood
messages. I and reconnecting all connection including the
uplink port on the Speedstream switch.




>-----Original Message-----
>Please help
>
>Yes, I can share the Internet connection between all of
>the 3 computers, either 2 with Speedstream router or as
>you stated all 3 computers via the 5 port Speedstream
>Switch I connected to the Speedstream router. The
>computers can " see " each other in network
neighbourhood,
>However when I want to share files the network, I cannot
>share the files. I assumed it was the lack of the ICS not
>being present. As Linda stated there is another way,or as
>you stated ICS is not necessary( I always assumed that ).
>
>How would the 3 computers share without ICS ?
>
>thanks for your help.
>
>
>Clement
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Can I use a 3thrd w2k computer as a Server/host, then
>>network the other 2 W98Se as clients ? See message
below,
>>is this how it can be done without W98SE and ICS ?
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>Clement
>>
>>Subject: ICS does not install from Win 98 SE recovery
CD
>>( Internet sharing connection
>> From: "Linda" <(E-Mail Removed)> Sent: 8/30/2003
>>8:51:38 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I have had no luck with ICS on our home network. I have
>>removed all traces of ICS - it just did not work.
>>
>>I have 8 PCs connected via ethernet, a Linksys switch,
>and
>>a Linksys dsl/cable modem hub and all works beautifully.
>>We even have a Linksys 2-port PrintServer with 4 10/100
>>ports (that serves as an additional hub for our laptops)
>>that networks two of our older printers. The PC that the
>>dsl/cable modem hub is connected to serves as the "main"
>>pc and everything else connects vis DHCP as controlled
by
>>the DSL/Cable modem. It is simple and works beautifully.
>>We have Win98, WinME, Win2k and WinXP computers all
>>working together with few problems.
>>
>>This is an easy, inexpensive solution to home networking.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Cable Modem, Speedtream Router, Speedstream Switch and
>>two
>>>Win 98 SE IBM computer.Sharing internet connection has
>>>worked 6 months. Now I am trying to share files over
the
>>>my home LAN network. Reading that one will be host and
>>>other will be client. And need to install ICS.
>>>
>>>I am setting up a home network. Appears that ICS is not
>>>installed. As described by Microsoft, went to Control
>>>panel and add/remove programs, Windows Set-up tab,
>Double
>>>click Internet tools, Internet Sharing connection and
>yes
>>>and yes. However installation of program from Recovery
>CD
>>>does not start. " cannot find " icSapi32.dll "
>>>
>>>Other ways to install ICS ? or can I set up a home Lan
>>>network with an alternative to ICS ?
>>>
>>>Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>>Clement, (E-Mail Removed)
>>
>>.
>>
>..
>
>
>.
>

Steve you are correct you did mention the uplink.

My aim is to be able to share and even copy files between
computers. Share would be technically different that
copying files from one to another computer.

As described below steve, uplink conected to the router
and the switch have 3 computers connected to the regular
ports.

The result is that in network neighbourhood, I am now
prompted for a password when I want to explore one of the
machines ( Right click and explore )

I assume I must set-up a list of access rights in between
each computer and each computer ?


Your Speedstream router can share
the cable modem connection between all of the computers.
If the
router doesn't have enough ports for all of them, connect
the router
to the uplink port on the switch and use the other switch
ports for
computers.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)



>-----Original Message-----
>excellent thanks
>
>I am just about to check the Network neighbourhood
>messages. I and reconnecting all connection including
the
>uplink port on the Speedstream switch.
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Please help
>>
>>Yes, I can share the Internet connection between all of
>>the 3 computers, either 2 with Speedstream router or as
>>you stated all 3 computers via the 5 port Speedstream
>>Switch I connected to the Speedstream router. The
>>computers can " see " each other in network
>neighbourhood,
>>However when I want to share files the network, I cannot
>>share the files. I assumed it was the lack of the ICS
not
>>being present. As Linda stated there is another way,or
as
>>you stated ICS is not necessary( I always assumed that ).
>>
>>How would the 3 computers share without ICS ?
>>
>>thanks for your help.
>>
>>
>>Clement
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Can I use a 3thrd w2k computer as a Server/host, then
>>>network the other 2 W98Se as clients ? See message
>below,
>>>is this how it can be done without W98SE and ICS ?
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>Clement
>>>
>>>Subject: ICS does not install from Win 98 SE recovery
>CD
>>>( Internet sharing connection
>>> From: "Linda" <(E-Mail Removed)> Sent:
8/30/2003
>>>8:51:38 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I have had no luck with ICS on our home network. I have
>>>removed all traces of ICS - it just did not work.
>>>
>>>I have 8 PCs connected via ethernet, a Linksys switch,
>>and
>>>a Linksys dsl/cable modem hub and all works
beautifully.
>>>We even have a Linksys 2-port PrintServer with 4 10/100
>>>ports (that serves as an additional hub for our
laptops)
>>>that networks two of our older printers. The PC that
the
>>>dsl/cable modem hub is connected to serves as
the "main"
>>>pc and everything else connects vis DHCP as controlled
>by
>>>the DSL/Cable modem. It is simple and works
beautifully.
>>>We have Win98, WinME, Win2k and WinXP computers all
>>>working together with few problems.
>>>
>>>This is an easy, inexpensive solution to home
networking.
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Cable Modem, Speedtream Router, Speedstream Switch and
>>>two
>>>>Win 98 SE IBM computer.Sharing internet connection has
>>>>worked 6 months. Now I am trying to share files over
>the
>>>>my home LAN network. Reading that one will be host and
>>>>other will be client. And need to install ICS.
>>>>
>>>>I am setting up a home network. Appears that ICS is
not
>>>>installed. As described by Microsoft, went to Control
>>>>panel and add/remove programs, Windows Set-up tab,
>>Double
>>>>click Internet tools, Internet Sharing connection and
>>yes
>>>>and yes. However installation of program from Recovery
>>CD
>>>>does not start. " cannot find " icSapi32.dll "
>>>>
>>>>Other ways to install ICS ? or can I set up a home Lan
>>>>network with an alternative to ICS ?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your input.
>>>>
>>>>Clement, (E-Mail Removed)
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>..
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

In article <01fe01c36f4e$1a67d350$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Clement Hamer"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Steve you are correct you did mention the uplink.
>
>My aim is to be able to share and even copy files between
>computers. Share would be technically different that
>copying files from one to another computer.
>
>As described below steve, uplink conected to the router
>and the switch have 3 computers connected to the regular
>ports.
>
>The result is that in network neighbourhood, I am now
>prompted for a password when I want to explore one of the
>machines ( Right click and explore )
>
>I assume I must set-up a list of access rights in between
>each computer and each computer ?

Clement, please give complete details of what's happening so that
other people can understand the situation. You can see everything,
but we can't. We only know as much as you tell us.

What version of Windows is each computer running: the one on which
you're using Network Neighborhood, and the one that you're trying to
explore?

What exactly are you right-clicking and trying to explore: a computer,
a shared disk, a shared folder, or something else?

What is the complete and exact text of the password prompt?

Have you define a password for any network shares?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <00a101c36f79$957cb5d0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Clement Hamer"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Steve My aplogies again for all the confusion.
>
>This is the set-up.
>
>Machine #1. W98 SE
>Machine #2. W98 SE
>Machine #3. W2K Pro
>
>Network hardware consist of
>
>1.Motorola Cable Modem
>2.Speedstream Cable router. 2 ports
>3.Speedstream Fast Ehternet switch. 5 ports
>
>All 3 computers are connected to the 5 Speedstream Switch
>and in turn the Switch is connected to the cable router.
>
>Internet was successfully shared by the Cable router.2 LAN
>connections. Now 3thrd W2k machine and switch were added
>so that A. 3thrd machine could share Internet connection
>and that Switch would allow file and print sharing between
>all 3 computers.
>
>File sharing.
>
>For example For the purpose of this discussion, I would
>check my " Networneighborhood " and It will show two
>network groups and 3 machines.
>Group #1. are machines with W98 SE
>Group #2. is machine with W2K pro.
>
>If for example I whish to share files between W98 SE
>computers, I will check my " Network neighborhood "and I
>will find the desired Compter by computer name. However If
>Whish to open by right clicking the desired computer in
>Network neightborhood, The computer path and name is shown
>but a prompt will be asked for a password. Where would I
>set this password ?
>Note that prior to the above all computers were
>confirgured to share files and printers. by selecting the
>network options in the control panel.
>
>thanks
>
>
>Clement

Thanks for those details, Clement. They help give others a better
picture of the problem.

I'm puzzled by the password prompt. W98 SE doesn't have passwords for
computers. It does have passwords for shared disks and folders, but
only if you explicitly define them.

Are you sure that this happens when you try to explore a W98 SE
computer? I could understand it if it happens when you try to explore
a W2K pro computer.

What is the complete and exact text of the password prompt? Please
list every single word in it.

Click the Start button on W98 SE and look at the "Log Off" entry.
Does it include a user name, like "Log Off Steve", or does it just say
"Log Off"?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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