Hide my BT Voyager 2091

Hi,

I live in a apartment block and i have recently installed the abov
wireless router.

My question is does anybody know how to turn off the SSID so that m
Router details are not broadcast.

When i use the scan feature on the Wireless utility that i installed
found My wireless router and 4 others ..... using the same route
types.

I am am not worried about the others but would like to make my detail
invisible to all others....

regards

Murra

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rdrunner40

rdrunner40 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I live in a apartment block and i have recently installed the above
> wireless router.
<snip>
> I am am not worried about the others but would like to make my details
> invisible to all others....

Hiding your SSID does not actually make much difference at all.
It certainly does not hide any details from the more than even slightly
casual observer.

Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hiding your SSID does not actually make much difference at all.
> It certainly does not hide any details from the more than even slightly
> casual observer.

It also makes it harder for someone else to avoid the channel that
you're using.

Broadcast SSID. You know it makes sense.
Chris

"Ian Stirling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> rdrunner40 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I live in a apartment block and i have recently installed the above
>> wireless router.
> <snip>
>> I am am not worried about the others but would like to make my details
>> invisible to all others....
>
> Hiding your SSID does not actually make much difference at all.
> It certainly does not hide any details from the more than even slightly
> casual observer.

it does if you change the name from the default one... since the ssid would
have to be keyed into setup the connection, so would be harder to guess???

Stu C <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> "Ian Stirling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:44609a9a$0$5900$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> rdrunner40 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I live in a apartment block and i have recently installed the above
>>> wireless router.
>> <snip>
>>> I am am not worried about the others but would like to make my details
>>> invisible to all others....
>>
>> Hiding your SSID does not actually make much difference at all.
>> It certainly does not hide any details from the more than even slightly
>> casual observer.
>
> it does if you change the name from the default one... since the ssid would
> have to be keyed into setup the connection, so would be harder to guess???

Not really.
It _is_ broadcast, even with 'hiding'.
Otherwise your computer could not use it.
There are tools readily available which can observe both sides of the
interaction between your router and laptop/... and spit out the SSID.

"Chris Davies" <chris-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Hiding your SSID does not actually make much difference
> > at all.
> > It certainly does not hide any details from the more
> > than even slightly casual observer.

True.

> It also makes it harder for someone else to avoid the
> channel that you're using.

Bollocks. Anyone looking can see which channel you're on. I can see three
from here right now, all with SSID withheld.

> Broadcast SSID. You know it makes sense.

No it doesn't.

Ivor

> "Chris Davies" <chris-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:vgp6j3-(E-Mail Removed)
>> Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> > Hiding your SSID does not actually make much difference
>> > at all.
>> > It certainly does not hide any details from the more
>> > than even slightly casual observer.

> True.

>> It also makes it harder for someone else to avoid the
>> channel that you're using.

Ivor Jones <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Bollocks. Anyone looking can see which channel you're on. I can see three
> from here right now, all with SSID withheld.

I think we'll have to agree to differ on this one.

Most domestic wireless kit that I've come across cannot see networks
unless SSID is broadcast. (Netstumbler and its ilk are exceptions,
because they're intended to find "hidden" networks. How many folk
out there even know about NS let alone are capable of running it and
understanding its results?)

You clearly are more fortunate to have better kit - or better knowledge -
than the majority.

Broadcast SSID. You know it makes sense.
Chris

> Most domestic wireless kit that I've come across cannot see networks
> unless SSID is broadcast.

Well I have just setup 2 Netgear bog standard wireless systems, turned off
the sssid and the laptops still connect ok.

Dave

> Most domestic wireless kit that I've come across cannot see networks
> unless SSID is broadcast.

gort <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Well I have just setup 2 Netgear bog standard wireless systems, turned off
> the sssid and the laptops still connect ok.

Yes, but you would have had to provide the SSID. And you've no way of
knowing whether someone else is using the channel you've chosen.

Chris

"Chris Davies" <chris-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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[snip]

> Most domestic wireless kit that I've come across cannot
> see networks unless SSID is broadcast. (Netstumbler and
> its ilk are exceptions, because they're intended to find
> "hidden" networks. How many folk
> out there even know about NS let alone are capable of
> running it and understanding its results?)
>
> You clearly are more fortunate to have better kit - or
> better knowledge - than the majority.

No special kit, just my Dell laptop.

Ivor