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Syucomm
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      02-13-2007, 12:44 PM
Hi All,
how risks there are if i hide the SSID on my router instead to use WEP
encr?


Thanks
Syu.

 
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Bigguy
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      02-13-2007, 02:32 PM
You will have no protection at all....

Sniffer programs can still see your wireless traffic without SSID.
Without WEP or WPA you are wide open.

MAC address filtering is a small help.

Guy

Syucomm wrote:
> Hi All,
> how risks there are if i hide the SSID on my router instead to use WEP
> encr?
>
>
> Thanks
> Syu.



 
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Pen
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      02-13-2007, 02:35 PM
Syucomm wrote:
> Hi All,
> how risks there are if i hide the SSID on my router instead to use WEP
> encr?
>
>
> Thanks
> Syu.
>

Hiding your SSID is useless, it provides no security as it is easily
discovered. WEP is no real great, but it is real security. WPA is the
best technique to use.
 
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Steve Pearce
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      02-13-2007, 03:06 PM
On 13 Feb 2007 05:44:44 -0800, "Syucomm" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi All,
>how risks there are if i hide the SSID on my router instead to use WEP
>encr?


As others have said, no protection at all. And when the guy next door
is checking for an unused channel in install his new wireless router,
he won't see yours and plonk it on the same channel.
 
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Axel Hammerschmidt
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      02-13-2007, 03:19 PM
Syucomm <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi All,
> how risks there are if i hide the SSID on my router instead to use WEP
> encr?


Every time one of your stations (PC with a wirelss card) that knows the
SSID associates with the access point in your router, the SSIS is sent
in the clear. So all someone else has to do is wait.
 
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Peabody
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      02-13-2007, 10:57 PM
Steve Pearce says...

> As others have said, no protection at all. And when the
> guy next door is checking for an unused channel in
> install his new wireless router, he won't see yours and
> plonk it on the same channel.


Thanks for saying that. I'm new at all this, but I had
concluded that so long as I'm encrypted, there's no
advantage to me to hide my SSID, for the very reason you
cite. I want anybody who is manually selecting his channel
to see me on channel 11, and try to avoid me by going to
channel 1. The only advantage I can see to hiding SSID is
if you are not encrypting or restricting MAC access. Then
it would help prevent a neighbor from accidentally joining
your network, but that's about all.

Is that right? You really do want everybody in the
neighborhood to see you, just not be able to join your
network.


 
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Syucomm
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      02-14-2007, 09:53 AM
On 14 Feb, 00:57, Peabody <waybackNO784SPA...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Steve Pearce says...
>
> > As others have said, no protection at all. And when the
> > guy next door is checking for an unused channel in
> > install his new wireless router, he won't see yours and
> > plonk it on the same channel.

>
> Thanks for saying that. I'm new at all this, but I had
> concluded that so long as I'm encrypted, there's no
> advantage to me to hide my SSID, for the very reason you
> cite. I want anybody who is manually selecting his channel
> to see me on channel 11, and try to avoid me by going to
> channel 1. The only advantage I can see to hiding SSID is
> if you are not encrypting or restricting MAC access. Then
> it would help prevent a neighbor from accidentally joining
> your network, but that's about all.
>
> Is that right? You really do want everybody in the
> neighborhood to see you, just not be able to join your
> network.


Hi, ok thanks everyone for response. Now the problem is that:
i'm using a netgear router/accesspoint. If i enable the WEP i can see
the network only from NETGEAR NET CARDS!!!!
Is possible something that? The netgear company can't close the use of
router only for netgera product.....
Can you help me on this issue?
Thank you very much!

 
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Bob Willard
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      02-14-2007, 12:31 PM
Syucomm wrote:
>
> Hi, ok thanks everyone for response. Now the problem is that:
> i'm using a netgear router/accesspoint. If i enable the WEP i can see
> the network only from NETGEAR NET CARDS!!!!
> Is possible something that? The netgear company can't close the use of
> router only for netgera product.....
> Can you help me on this issue?
> Thank you very much!
>


Nope. WEP is WEP. But there are multiple ways to translate passphrases
into passkey strings, so after doing a translation once, copy the resulting
passkey strings, as 26-digit hex strings, to the other nodes.

If you don't see a translator, just create a 26-digit hex string and copy
that. The 26-digit (128 bit) string is safer than the 10-digit (64 bit)
string.
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Cheers, Bob
 
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