HH conversion - SNR measurement?

The engineer is at some point (hopefully) going to turn up at some
point to remove my HH box, and install a standard faceplate for ADSL.
I have failed on line-length to get 1Mbit.
At the time of installation of 512K, does the engineer report back to BT
what the actual loss is?
So that I could possibly upgrade to 1/2 mbit in the future?

Ian Stirling wrote:
> The engineer is at some point (hopefully) going to turn up at some
> point to remove my HH box, and install a standard faceplate for
> ADSL.
> I have failed on line-length to get 1Mbit.
> At the time of installation of 512K, does the engineer report back
> to BT what the actual loss is?
> So that I could possibly upgrade to 1/2 mbit in the future?

Why would you if you've already been told that your line will have
problems supporting it. Do you think that BT have put arbitary
barriers in the way just for the sake of it??

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Don't practice safe hex,
do it!!!

"Kr?ft??" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Ian Stirling wrote:
>> The engineer is at some point (hopefully) going to turn up at some
>> point to remove my HH box, and install a standard faceplate for
>> ADSL.
>> I have failed on line-length to get 1Mbit.
>> At the time of installation of 512K, does the engineer report back
>> to BT what the actual loss is?
>> So that I could possibly upgrade to 1/2 mbit in the future?
>
> Why would you if you've already been told that your line will have
> problems supporting it. Do you think that BT have put arbitary
> barriers in the way just for the sake of it??

No, I just suspect they may not have a completely accurate measurement,
but may be relying on line length.

Ian Stirling wrote:
> "Kr?ft??" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Ian Stirling wrote:
>>> The engineer is at some point (hopefully) going to turn up at some
>>> point to remove my HH box, and install a standard faceplate for
>>> ADSL.
>>> I have failed on line-length to get 1Mbit.
>>> At the time of installation of 512K, does the engineer report back
>>> to BT what the actual loss is?
>>> So that I could possibly upgrade to 1/2 mbit in the future?
>>
>> Why would you if you've already been told that your line will have
>> problems supporting it. Do you think that BT have put arbitary
>> barriers in the way just for the sake of it??
>
> No, I just suspect they may not have a completely accurate
> measurement, but may be relying on line length.

To answer your original question, all APTS tests are logged. Now
whether anybody bothers to read or check them is another matter (most
probably would do if there is a problem but that's only a guess)..

--
B-)
Don't practice safe hex,
do it!!!

"Kráftéé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

: Why would you if you've already been told that your line will have
: problems supporting it. Do you think that BT have put arbitary
: barriers in the way just for the sake of it??

Actually BT *PREDICT* availability on their web-based ADSL checker on just
such arbitrary factors!

Only if an ISP still places an order - and NOT all will - will they measure it!

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:35:59 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>At the time of installation of 512K, does the engineer report back to BT
>what the actual loss is?

if you choose a router or modem that tells you this information you
will be able to see what time of year is best to order the faster
service :-)

Phil

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Phil Thompson
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:35:59 +0000 (UTC), Ian Stirling
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>At the time of installation of 512K, does the engineer report back to BT
>>what the actual loss is?
>
>if you choose a router or modem that tells you this information you
>will be able to see what time of year is best to order the faster
>service :-)
>
>Phil

To ask a question I didn't get an answer to last time - how do
routers/modems measure the line-loss to report?
Is it possible to switch say an Alcutel 330 into a diagnostic mode where
it can measure and report such info??
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robert w hall

"robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsAJH4KA5oQr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> To ask a question I didn't get an answer to last time - how do
> routers/modems measure the line-loss to report?

The routers firmware/drivers has to support it..

> Is it possible to switch say an Alcutel 330 into a diagnostic mode where
> it can measure and report such info??

No - won't work with the Alcatel 330

Regards
Sunil

Sunil Sood <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> "robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsAJH4KA5oQr$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> To ask a question I didn't get an answer to last time - how do
>> routers/modems measure the line-loss to report?
>
> The routers firmware/drivers has to support it..
>
And how comparable is it between modems?

"Ian Stirling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bojact$5jf$1$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sunil Sood <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > "robert w hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > newsAJH4KA5oQr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> To ask a question I didn't get an answer to last time - how do
> >> routers/modems measure the line-loss to report?
> >
> > The routers firmware/drivers has to support it..
> >
> And how comparable is it between modems?

Hmm - well similar routers (same make/firmware) should give similar
readings.

However, comparng the readings of different makes etc on the same line could
lead to vastly different readings been reported as some of them are not as
accurate..

Of course, the only readings which really count are those reported by BT's
own test equipment.

Regards
Sunil